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mystes posted:I didn't say anything about the market. mystes posted:suddenly people [...] would be demanding subcompact cars with pedestrian safety features yes you did the "fix it with laws" version is banning oversized cars. passing laws to sway the invisible hand of the market is lib poo poo
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cum jabbar posted:you're all replying to a paste of a dumb tweet lol it was a very good syq
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Horace posted:I was discussing with a friend why there are so few pickups in the uk. he said because everything in the bed would be stolen immediately, and then then bed would fill with leaves and rainwater. I have started seeing a few massive American-style pickups pop up in my semi-rural corner of England, always pristine with an empty bed so presumably not being used by actual farmers. British car brains would be very vulnerable to a "don't you want to feel safe" marketing push and I'm dreading the day the car companies try it
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Gato posted:I have started seeing a few massive American-style pickups pop up in my semi-rural corner of England, always pristine with an empty bed so presumably not being used by actual farmers. British car brains would be very vulnerable to a "don't you want to feel safe" marketing push and I'm dreading the day the car companies try it I recall a Top Gear episode where Jeremy is driving a truck in a English village and tosses his shopping in the bed (some candles or something) and a guy steals it right in front of him.
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Gato posted:I have started seeing a few massive American-style pickups pop up in my semi-rural corner of England, always pristine with an empty bed so presumably not being used by actual farmers. British car brains would be very vulnerable to a "don't you want to feel safe" marketing push and I'm dreading the day the car companies try it I’m in suburbia, and whether they take off here or not is 100% dependent on whether you’re allowed to take them to the tip without a permit
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Jun 25, 2023 22:25
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I looked it up, you need a permit to take a pickup truck to the tip in my area. You can take a car 52 times in a year but in a pickup you would only be able to go 18 times. it’s over for pickup trucks in British suburbia if they can’t go to the tip 52 times a year.
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Jun 25, 2023 22:32
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what the gently caress is the tip
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leftist heap posted:what the gently caress is the tip from the context its the dump
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leftist heap posted:what the gently caress is the tip here, I’ll show you 
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Jun 25, 2023 23:28
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the only thing stopping pickups in the uk is just the tip
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Do you people live somewhere without bulk trash pickup? If I have furniture, a mattress, whatever that I want gone I call the local sheriff's department and they use prison labor to remove it, completely free of cost to me.
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Jun 25, 2023 23:31
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NfNNQ4hxgn4 this one hits different now
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Twerk from Home posted:Do you people live somewhere without bulk trash pickup? If I have furniture, a mattress, whatever that I want gone I call the local sheriff's department and they use prison labor to remove it, completely free of cost to me. I honestly can't tell if that's a joke or not (probaby not) but regardless, 
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Clark Nova posted:I honestly can't tell if that's a joke or not (probaby not) but regardless, I'm not joking. https://sheriff.nashville.gov/bulk-item-removal/
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I AM A VICTIM, NOT THEM - THEY WERE ENCASED IN STEEL! I ONLY HAD MY FLESH ENCASEMENT OF FLESH!
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went to Adelaide for the weekend and stayed downtown, walked around the whole time. favorite moment was a crosswalk turning green and a car, eager to turn, pulled over into the crosswalk so they could vroom as soon as people got through the cross. instead a pack of a dozen uniformed 13 year old school girls saw the car and stopped in front of it to point and laugh at the driver, wasting an extra 15 seconds of their time. lol
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the kids are alright
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what the gently caress is the adelaide
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Pittsburgh Fentanyl Cloud posted:what the gently caress is the adelaide
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Pittsburgh Fentanyl Cloud posted:what the gently caress is the adelaide Its the capital of SA.
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Pittsburgh Fentanyl Cloud posted:what the gently caress is the adelaide its like your shithole city but 4x bigger
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it may surprise some Americans to learn that other people don’t have prison labor on demand
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Twerk from Home posted:Do you people live somewhere without bulk trash pickup? If I have furniture, a mattress, whatever that I want gone I call the local sheriff's department and they use prison labor to remove it, completely free of cost to me. I have this, but on a schedule and also it's unionised labour. Your way definitely feels more like freedom though
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yeah my european country rural or urban there was always someone you could call to go pick up oversized trash/appliances or a large amount of landscaping, you normally didn't pay for it if your income was under a certain amount too.
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Horace posted:I looked it up, you need a permit to take a pickup truck to the tip in my area. You can take a car 52 times in a year but in a pickup you would only be able to go 18 times. lmao how had I never considered this, thank you council waste disposal services for being the one thing standing between Britain and universal tank ownership
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you know what's really wasteful? toll gates millions of hours of productivity are lost, and millions of tons of greenhouse gases are spewed into the air, while cars and trucks idle at long pileups behind toll gates. You might even have a highway system that has the capacity to handle so-and-so high levels of traffic... and all that means is that it creates an even bigger bottleneck when you get to the end of it not to mention the space and resources involved in creating gigantic toll plazas (which necessarily have to be much larger than the straight roadway it services), as well as the design demands of creating on-ramps and off-ramps with toll gates (as opposed to ramps whose only consideration is a safe entry and exit from the main road) and for what? so the private corporation that [partly] built the road gets to extract their pound of flesh? it puts to lie that capitalism efficiently allocates resources - you'd free up so much productivity and effort and manpower by simply channeling the payment for the road project and its maintenance directly into the corporations coffers via the government, even if the money has to be extracted with taxes, but no, we have to get ourselves paid at the point of use, so you end up with bullshit like this 
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eXXon posted:Its the capital of SA. yeah Beethoven wrote a song about it https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cZqLHY9pqug
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gradenko_2000 posted:you know what's really wasteful? toll gates I can't tell if this is a troll or not, the interstate system being mostly toll-free is one of the causes of america's car brain
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gradenko_2000 posted:you know what's really wasteful? toll gates Um I live in a hick rear end country and the toll roads I have seen you just pay with an app. No stopping, keep driving, they will get your plates with a camera and a computer. Twerk from Home posted:Do you people live somewhere without bulk trash pickup? If I have furniture, a mattress, whatever that I want gone I call the local sheriff's department and they use prison labor to remove it, completely free of cost to me. That's slave labour buddy. You should uhhh not do that. Cup Runneth Over posted:yes you did Passing laws to sway the invisible hand of the free market is something China does.
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gradenko_2000 posted:you know what's really wasteful? toll gates that picture has 14 lanes of ezpass where you dont have to stop
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lol the south
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500excf type r posted:that picture has 14 lanes of ezpass where you dont have to stop we do things a little differently over here: you affix an RFID tag to your vehicle, and you have to pull up to the toll gate, and there is still an arm barrier across the lane - the RFID receiver at the gate is supposed to read the tag, link it to your account, and then deduct the money from it, before it will lift the arm barrier to let you through this really only eliminates the part where you have to roll your window down to pay a human cashier, and then have them give you change. you still have to come to a complete stop, and sometimes the RFID tag won't be read properly and you need to hand a card to a cashier for them to swipe it at a machine to make the transaction, or sometimes people forget to put enough money into the account so it won't let them through until/unless they pay in cash so there's still a tremendous build-up of traffic regardless
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gradenko_2000 posted:we do things a little differently over here: you affix an RFID tag to your vehicle, and you have to pull up to the toll gate, and there is still an arm barrier across the lane - the RFID receiver at the gate is supposed to read the tag, link it to your account, and then deduct the money from it, before it will lift the arm barrier to let you through lol i had to drive across 4 states the other day and i forgot my ez pass but i went through the ezpass lanes anyways. i just give them my ezpass number online and they charge me (at a rate that is also cheaper than using cash)
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if you dont artificially back up thousands of cars, the place they are all going would not be able to accomodate them
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Yeah, it is also a degree of a traffic calming to stem the flow of cars, which would be just stopped up the road anyway. Overall, I am firmly in supportive of toll roads through, if anything excess revenue from tolling after maintenance should be directed to transit agencies.
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anything that makes driving more annoying reduces the amount of cars, so toll gates are good actually
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toll roads should be used more but only to fund trains and public transportation so as to make driving as inconvenient and annoying as possible
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My train was delayed for four hours because someone drove a car into some vital bit of rail infrastructure. Then it was delayed for four hours due to the train company not wanting to pay living wages though, so gently caress cars but also capitalism
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spacemang_spliff posted:toll roads should be used more but only to fund trains and public transportation so as to make driving as inconvenient and annoying as possible Yeah, I don't have a problem with speeding cameras, higher registration fees, and gasoline taxes as well. Also, honestly, I was initially against putting GPS trackers to tax electric cars but honestly, the amount of road damage and danger present to the public coupled with how marginal the actual carbon savings is in reality makes me lean toward just taking the poo poo out of them anyway. Put all of that into transit, speed bumps, and protected bike lanes. (A model 3 Tesla is going to be at least 45-55k after everything, they can afford to pay some taxes.) Ardennes has issued a correction as of 12:59 on Jun 26, 2023 |
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ArmZ posted:lol the south temnessee lacks at atlantic coast and is therefore the midwest
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