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Just Another Lurker
May 1, 2009

cat botherer posted:

:wrong:, he was never a decent intellectual

I meant in respect to his actual work and of course... memes. :getin:

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smellmycheese
Feb 1, 2016

Umbra Dubium
Nov 23, 2007

The British Empire was built on cups of tea, and if you think I'm going into battle without one, you're sorely mistaken!



I mean, what the gently caress is a statement like "Human gender is clearly binary because nearly all people are men or women."

"Nearly"

You put it in the loving sentence yourself you clown!

OwlFancier
Aug 22, 2013

The poster goes on to make a quite good argument that sex as a binary category could exist for some purposes but that it is not all encompassing, yes humans reproduce using two broad sets of characteristics but those are assigned categories within the subset of all humanity and there is no obligation for every human to occupy one or the other.

https://twitter.com/2damntrans/status/1671815608873242624

Like you could have "functional sex" as a binary category which delineates all people capable of reproducing with the other set (although I don't even know if that would encompass everyone capable of reproduction) but it would still be a quite blurry category that you can't exclude people from based on individual features and it would absolutely exclude a big chunk of the population who can't reproduce at all for whatever reason.

Which of course is what a lot of terfs would happily do, but by their rationale it would mean you stop being men and women once you get old enough.

OwlFancier fucked around with this message at 19:50 on Jun 28, 2023

Tesseraction
Apr 5, 2009

my youtube feed is entirely lefty content, games content, music content or extremely softcore pornography so frankly I'm fine b*tches

Nenonen
Oct 22, 2009

Mulla on aina kolkyt donaa taskussa

Umbra Dubium posted:

I mean, what the gently caress is a statement like "Human gender is clearly binary because nearly all people are men or women."

"Nearly"

You put it in the loving sentence yourself you clown!

Maybe they meant that mankind is bi-polar

Gorn Myson
Aug 8, 2007






I try to cultivate my YouTube channel towards food, travel and dog videos, and YouTube sees this and thinks "what you really want is 'feminist with green hair gets owned' and Andrew Tate clips".

Guavanaut
Nov 27, 2009

Looking At Them Tittys
1969 - 1998



Toilet Rascal

Jaeluni Asjil posted:

Corbyn did a quote from a poem by Shelley (Rise up like lions) on twitter and the usual suspects are going bonkers because they think Corbyn wrote it so they're slagging it off

Tesseraction posted:

so frankly I'm fine b*tches
He should have responded to each of those poetry understanders with "It's Percy, Bysshe"

Small Strange Bird
Sep 22, 2006

Merci, chaton!
I've never used a YouTube channel or subscribed to anyone, so for the most part it just echoes back to me the last few things I've watched. Which means at the moment I have Commodore 64 chiptunes, gunfights from the John Wick films and Space: 1999. (Yes, I'm very boring.) I feel pretty lucky never to have had Jordan Peterson, Joe Rogan or any other poo poo like that 'recommended' to me that I can remember.

Dabir
Nov 10, 2012

My recs have a lot of Columbo in them atm.

Jakabite
Jul 31, 2010
I get Tom Scott videos and emotional clips from films I like cos I watch them when I’m hungover to cry

Danger - Octopus!
Apr 20, 2008


Nap Ghost
I started getting loads of recs for very obvious yelling misogynist content a while back and I think it was from watching some clips of Quentin Tarantino films and American Psycho that put me onto that track, because there was nothing else in my history to send me that way, and it wasn't something that had come up for me before. Clearing things out of your history when you get gross recs and just watching music vids or some kind of like train enthusiast content where there are 000s of vids just waiting for you is a good way to reset things imo

Camrath
Mar 19, 2004

The UKMT Fudge Baron


Somehow despite watching a lot of shooting and gun related content my recs still consist of that, food history stuff, classic video games and War Thunder streams. Barely any right wing stuff.

History Comes Inside!
Nov 20, 2004




The trick is to never, ever go into your YouTube recommendations for anything, ever.

I’m not even sure where they are, I just go straight to the channels I subscribe to and watch their new videos when they’re posted.

Nuclear Spoon
Aug 18, 2010

I want to cry out
but I don’t scream and I don’t shout
And I feel so proud
to be alive
i practically never look at any of the front page or recommendation poo poo i just have this on my bookmarks toolbar

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vUz9xCTOPRw

Kokoro Wish
Jul 23, 2007

Post? What post? Oh wow.
I had nothing to do with THAT.
My current obsession is ladies doing Supermodel catwalks in public.

OwlFancier
Aug 22, 2013

I watched Stalker the other day because it's free on youtube. I think they also have Solaris if you want to see that too.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Q3hBLv-HLEc

It's good! It's my sort of film I think. Quite meditative although I don't pretend to quite understand what it's trying to say. Beautiful to look at if nothing else.

NotJustANumber99
Feb 15, 2012

somehow that last av was even worse than your posting
My YouTube is skillbuilder fixing broken toilets and dudes winding up policemen and companies by flying drones over them.

happyhippy
Feb 21, 2005

Playing games, watching movies, owning goons. 'sup
Pillbug

Zalakwe posted:

Asset stripped by Macquarie you say? Better nationalise those losses pronto so we can sell it on and start the whole process again. How dumb is it that water companies are not publicly owned?

https://twitter.com/Reuters/status/1673982325791522816

https://www.thameswater.co.uk/about-us/governance/our-structure

Lets see who owns Thames Water.

Kemble Water Holdings Limited is the parent owner.

And these are made up of:

37% Investment Firms from around the world
30% Canadian Pension Scheme
20% UK University Pension Scheme
9% Another UK Pension Scheme
2% Netherlands Pension Scheme

London water bill money are going to boomers.

Tesseraction
Apr 5, 2009

Kokoro Wish posted:

My current obsession is ladies doing Supermodel catwalks in public.

post the videos

Pistol_Pete
Sep 15, 2007

Oven Wrangler

OwlFancier posted:

Mine's usually fine but if you keep scrolling it gets visibly desperate to get you to watch something so it starts throwing up weirder poo poo you wouldn't click on.

On Facebook today I randomly got a recommended post... With a photo of a decomposing corpse in Africa being exhumed from a grave, and a caption saying: " Cynthia, where is all your pride now?" and like 27,000 comments, all going: "God preserve me" and "We are all dust" and I'd like to know what the gently caress I've ever done that would lead Facebook to think I wanted to see that particular post.

I'm not sharing the screenshot 'cos it's pretty gross but seriously, wtf?

Zalakwe
Jun 4, 2007
Likes Cake, Hates Hamsters



happyhippy posted:

https://www.thameswater.co.uk/about-us/governance/our-structure

Lets see who owns Thames Water.

Kemble Water Holdings Limited is the parent owner.

And these are made up of:

37% Investment Firms from around the world
30% Canadian Pension Scheme
20% UK University Pension Scheme
9% Another UK Pension Scheme
2% Netherlands Pension Scheme

London water bill money are going to boomers.

It's probably fine tbf. Only Boomers can afford water in London anyway. The circular economy in action.

domhal
Dec 30, 2008


0.000% of Communism has been built. Evil child-murdering billionaires still rule the world with a shit-eating grin. All he has managed to do is make himself *sad*. It has, however, made him into a very, very smart boy with something like a university degree in Truth. Instead of building Communism, he now builds a precise model of this grotesque, duplicitous world.

NotJustANumber99 posted:

My YouTube is skillbuilder fixing broken toilets and dudes winding up policemen and companies by flying drones over them.

When's Roger doing a video on your house?

forkboy84
Jun 13, 2012

Corgis love bread. And Puro


OwlFancier posted:

I watched Stalker the other day because it's free on youtube. I think they also have Solaris if you want to see that too.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Q3hBLv-HLEc

It's good! It's my sort of film I think. Quite meditative although I don't pretend to quite understand what it's trying to say. Beautiful to look at if nothing else.

There's loads of rad Soviet films on YouTube, when the new Little Mermaid came out I came across a 1976 USSR version. And there's the mid 60s War & Peace adaptation. The Mosfilm channel is worth a look, Battleship Potemkin is a really fascinating piece of cinema history, and a powerful piece of propaganda, so powerful it was banned in this country until the 50s!

Microplastics
Jul 6, 2007

:discourse:
It's what's for dinner.

OwlFancier posted:

I watched Stalker the other day because it's free on youtube. I think they also have Solaris if you want to see that too.

Looks like it is!

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Z8ZhQPaw4rE

I've seen both films before many years ago but they never made any sense to me. I gotta admit I did much prefer the Solaris remake, if only because it had an excellent music score.

Microplastics
Jul 6, 2007

:discourse:
It's what's for dinner.
As for using youtube, there's only one way to do it



install Unhook and hide loving everything

Tesseraction
Apr 5, 2009

Noticing that comments are unhidden...

Jaeluni Asjil
Apr 18, 2018

Sorry I thought you were a landlord when I gave you your old avatar!
I had a gross recommendation today on yahoo not YouTube. I have been looking at a lot of submersible stuff re the design, problems, hubris etc. The recom today was for an experiment done 13 years ago with a meat-man constructed from pig in a diving suit under pressure (not as much pressure as the titan assuming whatever happened to it near the bottom of the dice and not part way). It was almost vomit inducing.
I was sheltering from rain in the Venue Cymru and gasped out loud to a few looks.
It was unearthed by someone on twitter.

Microplastics
Jul 6, 2007

:discourse:
It's what's for dinner.

Tesseraction posted:

Noticing that comments are unhidden...

Sometimes I can't help myself :negative:

OwlFancier
Aug 22, 2013

Microplastics posted:

Looks like it is!

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Z8ZhQPaw4rE

I've seen both films before many years ago but they never made any sense to me. I gotta admit I did much prefer the Solaris remake, if only because it had an excellent music score.

I think my takeaway from Stalker is ultimately that all of the men, in the end, and presumably everybody the stalker takes to the room, can't bring themselves to actually enter it, because they come to the realization that for whatever reason they don't want to know what they really desire. Porcupine went into the room and what he ultimately got was the absolute certainty that he cared more about money than his brother, and he couldn't deal with it.

The professor wants to destroy the room, but he brings a bomb to do it, which would be pointless because if he actually wanted to destroy it then it would happen if he went into it. And I think he reaches some kind of understanding that he doesn't need to destroy it and doesn't quite know what else to do after that. The writer I think comes to some kind of understanding about himself and the world in his experience getting to the room, and I think he is conscious that his inspiration depends on tension. He says he hates writing and I think he is worried that if he went into the room and got something out of it, it wouldn't really be his own writing any more. He needs that tension between struggling to write and actually doing it to be himself.

Similarly I think that's also what the stalker wants, he says he can't bring his wife to the room in case "she also fails" so he needs to believe that other people could have faith that the room would help them, but so desperately that he can't bear to confirm his wife might not. I think that's very tied up in how he sees other people. There's some... thing there in how he has this rationale for why he can't go into the room, but I think really it's because what he really wants is that tension of uncertainty. He wants to believe people are what he thinks of as "good" but he feels perpetually disappointed by how they turn out when he actually takes them to the room.


I dunno, it doesn't feel quite complete, and obviously all of that kind of happens at the end of the film which leaves me at a bit of a loss analysing the rest of it. It's saying something about people and the importance of hope and the tension between desiring something and getting it. But I think I don't quite grasp what exactly. Just have a vague impression, half formed shape of what it's saying. I dunno if that's that it doesn't translate perfectly or if it's just not spelled out clearly.

OwlFancier fucked around with this message at 22:29 on Jun 28, 2023

Endjinneer
Aug 17, 2005
Fallen Rib
Facebook adverts are quite open to training input, if that's a platform you still use. Every time I saw an awful outdoor gear kickstarter I clicked on it.
Now it's like an eager spaniel bringing me such abominations as the all-terrain bain-marie, the wifi poncho or this magnificent defiance of practicality https://briping.com/.

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Feb 16, 2011

I eat your face
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Tesseraction
Apr 5, 2009

I'm starting to sense a trend about recently first halves of the year.

The Question IRL
Jun 8, 2013

Only two contestants left! Here is Doom's chance for revenge...

OwlFancier posted:

I think my takeaway from Stalker is ultimately that [

I dunno, it doesn't feel quite complete, and obviously all of that kind of happens at the end of the film which leaves me at a bit of a loss analysing the rest of it. It's saying something about people and the importance of hope and the tension between desiring something and getting it. But I think I don't quite grasp what exactly. Just have a vague impression, half formed shape of what it's saying. I dunno if that's that it doesn't translate perfectly or if it's just not spelled out clearly.

I think the big take from a film about going to a dangerous area to learn a great truth, but at a horrible cost, is how the original film was destroyed in an accident, a new film was shot, and the location was so toxic many of the cast and crew became sick or died.

winegums
Dec 21, 2012


So I'm looking for some help, regarding memes. I'm trying to explain pictorial memes to a group of people who know gently caress all about the internet, Twitter etc.

I'm trying to find a good example of an image meme which everyone who understands it gets it, but which might be fairly opaque from the outside. Ones like Leo pointing at the screen or the roll safe meme aren't ideal as they kinda suggest something from the image itself.

Something like that picture of Baddiel in blackface people post whenever he decides he's the racism understander is probably a good example. But I'm looking for an example that's less contentious. Can anyone think of one?

crispix
Mar 28, 2015

Grand-Maman m'a raconté
(Les éditions des amitiés franco-québécoises)

Hello, dear
joined the rotary club have you, winegums?

happyhippy
Feb 21, 2005

Playing games, watching movies, owning goons. 'sup
Pillbug

Endjinneer posted:

Facebook adverts

I keep getting the weirdest brand advertising one on FB. 'For £400 you get £400 help with your brand' or some poo poo.
Like, pointing out the obvious.

The Question IRL
Jun 8, 2013

Only two contestants left! Here is Doom's chance for revenge...

winegums posted:

So I'm looking for some help, regarding memes. I'm trying to explain pictorial memes to a group of people who know gently caress all about the internet, Twitter etc.

I'm trying to find a good example of an image meme which everyone who understands it gets it, but which might be fairly opaque from the outside. Ones like Leo pointing at the screen or the roll safe meme aren't ideal as they kinda suggest something from the image itself.

Something like that picture of Baddiel in blackface people post whenever he decides he's the racism understander is probably a good example. But I'm looking for an example that's less contentious. Can anyone think of one?

Do you have any other cultural touchstones you can use?
Like the Simpsons or Star Trek have had lots of memes made from them. Can you use them as an example?

Dabir
Nov 10, 2012

winegums posted:

So I'm looking for some help, regarding memes. I'm trying to explain pictorial memes to a group of people who know gently caress all about the internet, Twitter etc.

I'm trying to find a good example of an image meme which everyone who understands it gets it, but which might be fairly opaque from the outside. Ones like Leo pointing at the screen or the roll safe meme aren't ideal as they kinda suggest something from the image itself.

Something like that picture of Baddiel in blackface people post whenever he decides he's the racism understander is probably a good example. But I'm looking for an example that's less contentious. Can anyone think of one?

Loss, maybe one of the more abstract versions of it

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Tesseraction
Apr 5, 2009

12 minutes after midnight, I realise I cannot explain memes in a way that offline people could understand.

I go to the one resource that could give me the answer: the most historically online community.

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