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Joke Miriam posted:What’s the most realistic prognosis for how far Ukraine goes in this offensive? To Moscow E: not a joke it would be easier than Melitopol mobby_6kl fucked around with this message at 17:43 on Jun 30, 2023 |
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Haystack posted:Ugh, Russia is going to have the worst, most unjustified "stabbed in the back" narrative going after the war. I can just tell. I suppose it'll be more intense afterwards but I feel like they've been trial ballooning Dolchstoßlegende for some time. still,
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# ? Jun 30, 2023 17:11 |
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Joke Miriam posted:What’s the most realistic prognosis for how far Ukraine goes in this offensive? Realistically, Melitopol would be a fantastic win and about the extent that would reasonably be achievable without air superiority and more weapons. That is, barring some extreme collapse of Russian lines like last fall.
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# ? Jun 30, 2023 17:11 |
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Joke Miriam posted:What’s the most realistic prognosis for how far Ukraine goes in this offensive? just in this offensive, with the understanding that there will probably be others? I mean, I do expect them to ultimately win (I would count either pre-2022 or pre-2014 borders as a win, with an obvious preference for the latter), but I don't expect them to roll up the whole Russian army in this offensive. Anyway, HonorableTB posted:Realistically, Melitopol would be a fantastic win and about the extent that would reasonably be achievable without air superiority and more weapons. That is, barring some extreme collapse of Russian lines like last fall. This, but also this would probably lead to some follow-on captures unless they're completely exhausted. I don't know for sure but I would be surprised if Russians had prepared extensive defensive lines to the east and west of Melitopol, or along the former Kakhova reservoir, and without them I don't think Russia can then hold the entire Kherson->Melitopol area (apart from Crimea).
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# ? Jun 30, 2023 17:17 |
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russia will never expect an attack from the landward side of Vladivostok
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# ? Jun 30, 2023 17:24 |
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When does Ukraine get F16's flying? I feel like that will be a major turn in the war TulliusCicero fucked around with this message at 17:32 on Jun 30, 2023 |
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TulliusCicero posted:Wn does Ukraine get F16's flying? No published schedule, I'm guessing sometime this fall.
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# ? Jun 30, 2023 17:27 |
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TulliusCicero posted:Wn does Ukraine get F16's flying? Training is either about to start or has already started, but the timelines I've seen are sometime in fall. Interesting thing about the "good tsar, bad boyars" thing is that it started as a rehabilitation of Ivan the Terrible in Russian folklore. This article is definitely worth a read because it helps to explain some of the things Putin does now https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ivan_the_Terrible_in_Russian_folklore e: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/False_Dmitry top tier username right here HonorableTB fucked around with this message at 17:32 on Jun 30, 2023 |
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For me once Ukraine can fully neutralize Russia's airpower over their territory then they can start carrying out these offensives a lot more easily.
TulliusCicero fucked around with this message at 17:46 on Jun 30, 2023 |
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https://twitter.com/Maks_NAFO_FELLA/status/1674804529580109827 t.
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# ? Jun 30, 2023 17:37 |
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I love how the Russians just have Ork 40k equipment now. Are they going to paint it red next? (USER WAS PUT ON PROBATION FOR THIS POST)
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# ? Jun 30, 2023 17:45 |
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burning swine posted:this definitely changed today. You can use nitter.net as an alternative and/or install the browser plugin which just does a redirect when you visit a twitter url: Oh, it even uses dark mode. Thanks!
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# ? Jun 30, 2023 17:53 |
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TulliusCicero posted:I love how the Russians just have Ork 40k equipment now. Are they going to paint it red next? lol be careful or youll bring bad juju upon us
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# ? Jun 30, 2023 17:56 |
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Sir John Falstaff posted:Yeah, it's a helicopter rocket pod. Not really a new concept--technicals using rocket pods like that were pretty common in Syria, Libya, etc. Those sort of dumbfire rockets are notoriously inaccurate when fired from a helicopter with actual targeting systems. Yolo'ing from the back of a vehicle like that your not getting any accuracy more precise than 'In that general direction'.
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# ? Jun 30, 2023 18:13 |
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Ukraine Waaagh: So where do you keep the red paint? (USER WAS PUT ON PROBATION FOR THIS POST)
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# ? Jun 30, 2023 18:16 |
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Deptfordx posted:Those sort of dumbfire rockets are notoriously inaccurate when fired from a helicopter with actual targeting systems. Yolo'ing from the back of a vehicle like that your not getting any accuracy more precise than 'In that general direction'. They look cool though
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# ? Jun 30, 2023 18:18 |
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TulliusCicero posted:I love how the Russians just have Ork 40k equipment now. Are they going to paint it red next? Don't summon a WAAAARGH against the world like that
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# ? Jun 30, 2023 18:21 |
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TulliusCicero posted:I love how the Russians just have Ork 40k equipment now. Are they going to paint it red next? They feel more in tune with another faction:
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# ? Jun 30, 2023 18:43 |
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TulliusCicero posted:These people are obsessed with pedophilia Is this based on anything or are they just calling Mike Pence a pedophile for no reason?
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HonorableTB posted:https://twitter.com/oryxspioenkop/status/1674776788856373250?t=3i9nxOTb7de2leN7Qarmjw&s=19 HonorableTB posted:I can't figure out what the gently caress that silver looking thing is. It looks like a DIY turbojet lol A helicopter unguided missile pod. E: beaten like Russia will be.
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# ? Jun 30, 2023 18:49 |
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NihilCredo posted:They feel more in tune with another faction: it really is a pronounced thing how actual soldiers get into warhams a lot aint it
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# ? Jun 30, 2023 18:52 |
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https://twitter.com/Gerashchenko_en/status/1674815241245343746 So decision making centers that your stupid Ruzzian friends couldn't hit even by accident so far? Shut up and go back to digging potatoes, you senile baldy.
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# ? Jun 30, 2023 18:53 |
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Lol, the new twitter crap means that it's now impossible to read the entirety of the longer tweets.
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# ? Jun 30, 2023 18:54 |
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Vaginaface posted:Ukraine Waaagh: So where do you keep the red paint? It was inside them all along. Phlegmish posted:Is this based on anything or are they just calling Mike Pence a pedophile for no reason? They call pedophile anyone they dislike. Except for that orange guy who lusts after his daughter and who partied with Epstein.
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Phlegmish posted:Is this based on anything or are they just calling Mike Pence a pedophile for no reason? He's a prominent US politician. The chances of him being a nonce are about 100%.
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# ? Jun 30, 2023 18:58 |
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NihilCredo posted:They feel more in tune with another faction: The second one says "Chaos Space Marines". What a bunch of swell guys! I have seen a fair amount of 40k iconography in this war, though I don't know if it's because 40k is big among soldiers, 40k is big in Eastern Europe, or both. Edit: fun fact, they're called, "kosmicheskiy desantniki", or "Space Paratroopers" to make them analogous to Russian airborne troops. William Bear fucked around with this message at 19:08 on Jun 30, 2023 |
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3D Megadoodoo posted:He's a prominent US politician. The chances of him being a nonce are about 100%. Come on, he's not a politician from the UK.
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IShallRiseAgain posted:Come on, he's not a politician from the UK. Americans are English.
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Twitter is best we have unfortunately. I asked astral if we could have telegram embeds and that was a non-starter. https://twitter.com/disclosetv/status/1674737622659235844?s=20 lmao gently caress elon
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# ? Jun 30, 2023 19:20 |
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something to keep your eyes on...potential breakthrough actions in the Tokmak direction?quote:"A Ukrainian raid is said to have made it all the way down to Ocheretuvate. From there to Tokmak it's 20km. There is a main road between them. This road is parallel to the trenches and minefields and is a supply route for the Russians and presumably not mined." quote:Operational information as of 18.00 30.06.2023 regarding Russian invasion HonorableTB fucked around with this message at 19:34 on Jun 30, 2023 |
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HonorableTB posted:something to keep your eyes on...potential breakthrough actions in the Tokmak direction? I think things like that are one of the great unknowns when it comes to the 'how's it going to proceed'. I imagine if they get some spear of the assault back behind the lines and get access to the undefended/mined supply lines that there's a chance that peninsula could fall quickly.
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# ? Jun 30, 2023 19:37 |
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Can't wait to see Slagstorm and Filthfire in the next Farcry.
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Oscar Wilde Bunch posted:I think things like that are one of the great unknowns when it comes to the 'how's it going to proceed'. I imagine if they get some spear of the assault back behind the lines and get access to the undefended/mined supply lines that there's a chance that peninsula could fall quickly. It heavily depends on the willingness of Russian forces to stand and fight. In the Kharkiv offensive they just left as fast they could leaving cops, collaborators and supplies behind. In Kherson they made a disciplined stand and methodically evacuated.
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# ? Jun 30, 2023 20:29 |
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tiaz posted:I suppose it'll be more intense afterwards but I feel like they've been trial ballooning Dolchstoßlegende for some time. still, They've been claiming a Dolchstosslegend over the alleged Western betrayal of the 1990s for years. All those (knowingly false) claims that NATO gave ironclad promises it would never expand (which are always built upon implicit expectations that the West should have actively subsidised and propped up Russian domination over its subjugated nations as the price of detente). And that it forced at gunpoint disastrous economic policies on Russia (when in reality it's elites couldn't wait to implement them, and willingly looted their own country). And before that it was claims of Western betrayal over failing to ally with Stalin against Hitler (this forcing poor sweet innocent and naive Stalin into carving up Eastern Europe with Hitler against his will). Russian elite nationalism is as shrill and riddled with a sense of national victimhood as almost any other. It gives the same vibes as late Imperial Germany, or it's non Weimar successor. Anything to direct the blame outward and away from the actual people who make th decisions.
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# ? Jun 30, 2023 20:31 |
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Judas Priest still active, nice
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https://twitter.com/Maks_NAFO_FELLA/status/1674861766369501192?s=20 and a screenshot for the untwittered: ZNPP explosion preparations continue, hopefully ending up as wasted effort HonorableTB fucked around with this message at 20:48 on Jun 30, 2023 |
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SPERMCUBE.ORG posted:All he had to do was sack the capital of the people employing him like a real mercenary would. Is that so hard? And he chickened out! Look at this Prig's small balls. That's what all the other mercenaries are saying. GBS>Ukraine War: Look at this prigs tiny balls
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Top 20 SA Usernames
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# ? Jun 30, 2023 20:54 |
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those would all make pretty sick BattleBots names too. more rumblings of Things Happening: https://twitter.com/Maks_NAFO_FELLA/status/1674870788350959620?s=20 side note: gently caress elon for making me have to screenshot all the tweets i post here, this is going to severely cut into my shitposts-per-minute ratio
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HonorableTB posted:those would all make pretty sick BattleBots names too. Going back and imagining Faruq announcing each one and yeah, yeah they do.
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