fuctifino posted:

Talking of which, I wish this kind of mentality was unique, but there are sadly many melted brained boomer types who genuinely believe this, and who won't have died by the time the next election takes place:


I've said at least once in ukmt's of old that I believe that Boris will be our leader (dictator?) yet again.

fuctifino posted:

smellmycheese posted:

Spicy numbers if true. I don’t think Nads seat has ever not been deep blue

https://twitter.com/electionmapsuk/status/1675447694905450496?s=46&t=m_nNbkNoHG4lLitcpyHReg

OwlFancier posted:

Is independent not her? I thought she quit the tories over the honours listing, if she's standing again I assume that's her?

kingturnip posted:

She hasn't officially quit yet by giving the required letter to the Bastard Duke of Fartingshire or whatever the gently caress is supposed to happen

smellmycheese posted:

Extremely funny that Hutton went ahead and published this despite being widely exposed as being in cahoots with the Water companies as a paid shill earlier in the week. Shameless.

https://www.theguardian.com/commentisfree/2023/jul/02/now-water-bosses-you-must-show-how-capitalism-must-work-for-the-common-good

OwlFancier posted:

Even ignoring that it is spectacularly devoid of material analysis. Paragraphs of "nobody inteded it to be this way" and "there's no reason why capitalism has to work like this" and never a thought spared to the fact that for hundreds of years it has resulted in squeezing every penny out of worker and customer for the benefit of the owners and so perhaps we should stop wondering about "oh but think of the possibilities if it didn't do that" and simply do something else.

quote:

The former Conservative leader Michael Howard has stood by the privatisation of the water sector, of which he was a leading proponent, despite the crisis surrounding Thames Water.

...

“The point about public ownership is this: if you have the industry in public ownership, it has to compete for resources with health, with education, with the police, with all the other legitimate demands on the public purse, and water when it was in public ownership was way down the queue,” he told BBC Radio 4’s Today programme.

“When you release it into the private sector, you have recourse to private capital. You can make the investment that’s needed.”

Bobstar posted:

They're all coming out of the woodwork to defend privatisation now. Probably because water somehow manages to be even stupider than energy in the way it was done, so a big failure is a good focal point for nationalisation talk.

Not sure why they're worried - nobody's going to win the next election and nationalise anything anyway.

x

Yep, private companies, famous for putting in more money than they get out, just for funsies.

keep punching joe posted:

Banks freezing assets of media grifters taking Russian money you say?

smellmycheese posted:

Extremely funny that Hutton went ahead and published this despite being widely exposed as being in cahoots with the Water companies as a paid shill earlier in the week. Shameless.

https://www.theguardian.com/commentisfree/2023/jul/02/now-water-bosses-you-must-show-how-capitalism-must-work-for-the-common-good

Jaeluni Asjil posted:

This closing down bank accounts stuff:

Firstly, it's been happening to quite a lot of people in the last few years, innocent, regular members of the public.

Example Heil article - there have been quite a few: https://www.thisismoney.co.uk/money/saving/article-9966767/Anger-Banks-shut-accounts-money-laundering-panic.html

Secondly, an anecdote:

We have a bank account for managing the flats and I'm signed up for internet banking on it. Can't do anything except view & download statements because it's dual authorisation and none of the other signatories - all in their late 80s - will have anything to do with internets or emails or all that new fangled stuff.
Anyway, I signed on to it one day and found a notice saying "we requested this information and if you don't supply this information within the next 30 days we may have to close your account".

So I got on the case and got it sorted. However, we had NEVER received any letter or email or phone call requesting the information in the first place and if it hadn't have been for me signing up to the internet banking and actually signing in to it that day we would never have known and the next thing we would have had our account closed.

The information they wanted was because they decided that the list of shareholders (all of us, the flat lessees, are also shareholders in the management/freeholder co) was inadequate. Companies House only requires annual update, but for some reason Barclays in their infinite wisdom had decided that eg "Mrs Brown" was insufficient shareholder details and also, we added a director when the other director get seriously ill (and since then deceased). So I've had to update Co House 'confirmation statement' 2x since then and should have done it again another 3 times since November - not free, £13 a pop - as people sell up or drop dead.

So for all we know it could be something as simple as that.

Jaeluni Asjil posted:

This closing down bank accounts stuff:

Firstly, it's been happening to quite a lot of people in the last few years, innocent, regular members of the public.

quote:

Now, as PM, his Government has changed student loan funding to cut the state’s contribution from 44p in the pound to 19p from September. Students will have to pay off their loans from when they earn £25,000 a year instead of £27,295, and repay for a maximum of 40 years, instead of 30.

smellmycheese posted:

Spicy numbers if true. I don’t think Nads seat has ever not been deep blue

https://twitter.com/electionmapsuk/status/1675447694905450496?s=46&t=m_nNbkNoHG4lLitcpyHReg

big scary monsters posted:

Finally a sensible plan to improve council funding.

Orkney council to look at proposals to become territory of Norway

big scary monsters posted:

Finally a sensible plan to improve council funding.

Orkney council to look at proposals to become territory of Norway

happyhippy posted:

Time to send in the Battleships and squaddies, so Rishi can pretend to be Thatcher.
Half of Orkney executed for Treason under new public order act created next week.

quote:

Tory MPs want to block overseas workers from UK care homes in extreme immigration plan

In a challenge to Rishi Sunak’s authority, Tory deputy chairman Lee Anderson will speak at the launch of the New Conservatives Group that wants to block social care workers getting visas

The MPs, led by Tom Hunt, are angry that he has failed to deliver on the 2019 Conservative manifesto pledge to slash the numbers of people arriving in this country.

Net immigration stood at 226,000 when Boris Johnson made the promise, but it has risen to an all time high of 606,000 since then.

In order to reduce the numbers, the group wants Mr Sunak to take radical action, including ending a scheme to give visas to carers to fill staff vacancies.

Social care workers, care assistants and home care worker roles are currently included on the Shortage Occupation List.

This means staff are eligible for the Health and Care Worker visa, lasting either three or five years.

Latest figures show there were an estimated 165,000 vacancies in the adult care sector in England last year, up 52% from the year before.

Jaeluni Asjil posted:

Ha
I've just discovered how to view mentions in the Discord which I rarely visit - only did this time because there was an email in an account I don't often view saying I had to change my userID or some such. (I'm still Jaeluni). Hence some of you will find some reactions to posts that are up to 3 years old.

esp Feedmegin, Camrath, jedit and a couple of others I don't recall seeing posting ITT so must be lurkers.

NotJustANumber99 posted:

jedit literally posted on this page. The others post regularly, like when they want to sell fudge

fuctifino posted:

https://www.mirror.co.uk/news/politics/tories-demand-rishi-sunak-stop-30371701

This could be one way to kill off the boomer Tory supporters