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| 🦋 |
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15 | 3.71% |
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115 | 28.47% |
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12 | 2.97% |
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67 | 16.58% |
| dragonfly |
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94 | 23.27% |
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14 | 3.47% |
| 🐝 |
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87 | 21.53% |
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this power plant b plot is boring as poo poo. things really slowed down since the whole wagner incident huh
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Jul 6, 2023 14:16
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mlmp08 posted:reporting if they hear/observe shelling Did the IEAE ever figure out who was shelling the nuclear plant?
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Jul 6, 2023 14:21
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mlmp08 posted:The safest move for Russia would be to just let the IAEA look at stuff like the roof. If Ukraine is full of poo poo, the IAEA can say so! And then if there were a false flag shelling of the plant roof, the IAEA could at least confirm they didn’t see poo poo on their daily inspection or whatever. For the roof specifically if they find nothing it’s just proof that the Russians temporarily moved everything incriminating and are going to move it right back, we are dealing with a very crafty enemy here- so crafty in fact that whatever we can conceive of doing, that is as much assurance as we need that they are in fact the ones doing it. The five conditions essentially stipulate that the plant be fully vulnerable to attack so I can see why they aren’t being met
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Jul 6, 2023 14:23
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BearsBearsBears posted:Did the IEAE ever figure out who was shelling the nuclear plant? Some Russians using crude shells cleverly disguised to mimic a HIMARS impact.
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Jul 6, 2023 14:25
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The delivery of Danish, Dutch and German Leopard 1s has been delayed.
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Jul 6, 2023 14:29
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BearsBearsBears posted:Did the IEAE ever figure out who was shelling the nuclear plant? Don't think so. Their team has only been on ground for the last 5-6 months, so not the whole conflict. And it's not like the IAEA team have a counter-battery radar of their own to monitor artillery fire. Their actions tend to be to report if there is damage from shelling, loudly complain that everyone should stop loving shooting in the vicinity of the plant and its power substations. The IAEA either cannot attribute very well or chooses not to for fear that either Russia or Ukraine will go after them or limit their safety mission further. The US reported at least one instance last year where US sensors picked up Russia firing artillery from in/around the ZNPP, then Ukraine fired back at the Russian artillery. US highlighted this both to message to Ukraine not to shoot at the ZNPP, even if "they did it first" and also to message tto Russia that there were actors aware that Russia was operating artillery for offensive fires from the vicinity of ZNPP. Based on IAEA reporting, Russia no longer has the amount of heavy weapons in/around the ZNPP that were present when they did their first visit, prior to establishing a more permanent IAEA presence.
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Jul 6, 2023 14:34
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Oh maybe they are gonna cut Ukraine loose. I figured fighting Russia to the last Ukrianian was NATOs goal in this
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Jul 6, 2023 14:34
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SplitSoul posted:The delivery of Danish, Dutch and German Leopard 1s has been delayed. Shouldn't be a problem unless Ukrainian army wants to try another offensive.
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Jul 6, 2023 14:35
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mlmp08 posted:First, people said IAEA would simply inspect and find any malicious activity at ZNPP if it existed, so IAEA’s lack of findings are evidence that Ukraine is lying, and Russia has no secret military ops at ZNPP. Russia could be denying access as a counter to the fact NATO countries are denying access to investigation material into their own loving pipeline.
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Jul 6, 2023 14:40
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mlmp08 posted:The safest move for Russia would be to just let the IAEA look at stuff like the roof. If Ukraine is full of poo poo, the IAEA can say so! And then if there were a false flag shelling of the plant roof, the IAEA could at least confirm they didn’t see poo poo on their daily inspection or whatever. lmao. saddams wmd inspectors again. why is the mic so boring?
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Jul 6, 2023 14:43
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CODChimera posted:this power plant b plot is boring as poo poo. things really slowed down since the whole wagner incident huh Now that everything is back to normal they're even rearming prigozhin and giving him back all of his seized funds How strange 🤔
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Jul 6, 2023 14:43
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Vomik posted:lmao. saddams wmd inspectors again. why is the mic so boring? well, in that case, the US had spent months building a small coalition and deploying combat power into the middle east, and had already said internally they were going to war, so it's a bit different when you've got hundreds of thousands of US troops waiting on the border for the order to execute. In this case, there is zero US force or coalition just waiting to leap across the border. I don't think this conflict is terribly analogous with the 2003 Iraq War.
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Jul 6, 2023 14:46
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i’ll tell the paratroopers in romania to go home then
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Jul 6, 2023 14:48
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This war is a lot more analagous to the War of the Ring
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Jul 6, 2023 14:48
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mlmp08 posted:The safest move for Russia would be to just let the IAEA look at stuff like the roof. If Ukraine is full of poo poo, the IAEA can say so! And then if there were a false flag shelling of the plant roof, the IAEA could at least confirm they didn’t see poo poo on their daily inspection or whatever. You know very well if they get full access, they will inconclusively report they didn't see anything precisely at the time they were looking to make sure it can be spun to "Russia just moved the explosive for the inspection" and never truly say Ukraine is full of poo poo.
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Jul 6, 2023 14:49
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Jel Shaker posted:i’ll tell the paratroopers in romania to go home then lmao. If you think the US is preparing to imminently launch some ground war into Russia or Ukraine and your evidence is that there are US forces inside NATO countries, I can't really help you. That's a level of believing dumb poo poo from which you can't be rescued.
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Jul 6, 2023 14:50
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https://twitter.com/polinaivanovva/status/1676916922699374592?s=20
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Jul 6, 2023 14:50
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mlmp08 posted:well, in that case, the US had spent months building a small coalition and deploying combat power into the middle east, and had already said internally they were going to war, so it's a bit different when you've got hundreds of thousands of US troops waiting on the border for the order to execute. In this case, there is zero US force or coalition just waiting to leap across the border. you don’t think a lot
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Jul 6, 2023 14:51
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Vomik posted:you don’t think a lot I'll be proven so wrong when the US invades Ukraine and Russia on the grounds of IAEA inspectors of ZNPP. I'm gonna look so dumb then.
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Jul 6, 2023 14:52
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why would the US want the war to end?
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Jul 6, 2023 14:53
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there is really no incentive for Russia to care one way or another because they are not going to blow up the plant, and even if they allowed the inspectors in and then Ukraine blew up the plant they wouldn't be exonerated in the propaganda game. Conversely if the plant gets blown up by "someone" regardless of the propaganda bs actual western intelligence won't believe Russia did it and it won't convince anyone to escalate in a way favorable to Ukraine. PS still noone is going to intentionally blow up the plant they didn't do it the last 5 times this came up and they won't do it now
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Jul 6, 2023 14:54
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text editor posted:Interesting choice of facial features on that caricature Yeah uh, might wanna delete that?
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Jul 6, 2023 14:54
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mlmp08 posted:I'll be proven so wrong when the US invades Ukraine and Russia on the grounds of IAEA inspectors of ZNPP. I'm gonna look so dumb then. looks like you’re ahead of schedule
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Jul 6, 2023 14:57
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mlmp08 posted:And it's not like the IAEA team have a counter-battery radar of their own to monitor artillery fire. mlmp08 posted:The US reported at least one instance last year where US sensors picked up Russia firing artillery from in/around the ZNPP
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Jul 6, 2023 14:57
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Improbable: this would imply that there are western leaders capable of sensible and reasonable behaviour.
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Jul 6, 2023 15:00
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BearsBearsBears posted:You don't need a counter-batttery radar to know where shells are coming from, you can just listen to them. You only need a counter-battery radar to be able to accurately fire back. Surely the US wouldn't just blatantly lie about an offical enemy. They've been so honest about everything these last 200+ years
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Jul 6, 2023 15:03
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Pistol_Pete posted:Improbable: this would imply that there are western leaders capable of sensible and reasonable behaviour. These are former US officials so people probably waiting to see if biden shits himself and someone else becomes president in 2024
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Jul 6, 2023 15:07
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BearsBearsBears posted:You don't need a counter-batttery radar to know where shells are coming from, you can just listen to them.  I don't think anyone's going to take it seriously if the IAEA says "I heard explosions, and I know they were Russian explosions because of my special ears." Especially in a warzone where multiple sides are firing. Sometimes when artillery comes in, you don't hear anything at all until the explosion happens. quote:Do you have a source for this? What kind of sensors did the US have and where were they? The only practical way I can think of is satellites. They didn't specify the sensor specifically by name, but satellite is a reasonable inference, either from detection of fires or just having imagery of artillery in/among ZNPP.
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Jul 6, 2023 15:09
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Ending the war won't be enough. People keep posting stories here that show how Russia has started to militarize and realign itself. Even if the war with Ukraine ends, the war with NATO won't.
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Jul 6, 2023 15:10
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Mr SuperAwesome posted:why would the US want the war to end? They're running out of weapons and/or Ukrainians, and are facing a scenario where Russia can annex as much of Ukraine as they drat please. They never counted on Russia both surviving the sanctions and being able to ramp up weapon/ammo production to fight a multi-year war of attrition.
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Jul 6, 2023 15:10
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mlmp08 posted:Who do you think did it? who do you think did it?
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Jul 6, 2023 15:12
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quote:In a high-level example of the back-channel diplomacy taking place behind the scenes, Russian Foreign Minister Sergey Lavrov met with members of the group for several hours in April in New York, four former officials and two current officials told NBC News. Going to bet that the conversations were way different when Ukrainian spring counter offensive was about to begin.
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Jul 6, 2023 15:12
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Lostconfused posted:Ending the war won't be enough. that's the point though, better for selling weapons if the US is preparing for negotiations in Ukraine now (big if) certainly that is only because it is starting to run out of value as a sales tool and become a liability
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Jul 6, 2023 15:12
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AnimeIsTrash posted:who do you think did it? i did it
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Jul 6, 2023 15:13
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AnimeIsTrash posted:who do you think did it? While I can rule a lot of people out, hard to rule it in to anything terribly specific. Was curious if the poster had a specific actor or was going to be vague like "The West" which ok... I think there's an extremely good chance that a state actor in Europe did it.
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Jul 6, 2023 15:14
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this is some real backroom politic poo pooquote:The discussions have taken place with the knowledge of the Biden administration, but not at its direction, with the former officials involved in the Lavrov meeting briefing the White House National Security Council afterward about what transpired, two of the sources said. Why are they putting the story out now?
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Jul 6, 2023 15:15
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Love the morons replying that this is "treason" even though the article states that the Biden administration was aware of the talks (and thus very likely has no issue with them occuring)
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Jul 6, 2023 15:16
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mlmp08 posted:While I can rule a lot of people out, hard to rule it in to anything terribly specific. Was curious if the poster had a specific actor or was going to be vague like "The West" which ok... I think there's an extremely good chance that a state actor in Europe did it. Shut the gently caress up
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Jul 6, 2023 15:16
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mlmp08 posted:
I predict explosions, and I know they were Russian explosions because of my special citizenship
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Jul 6, 2023 15:17
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speng31b posted:that's the point though, better for selling weapons i don't think even the MIC wants to go back to the cold war. they made more money than ever after it was over and that's all they care about. that want the US in bullshit wars far from home, they don't want an actual military threat
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