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Is RX-78-6 Mudrock the Quinlan Vos of Gundams?
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Jul 5, 2023 20:31
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what?
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Jul 5, 2023 20:43
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ninjewtsu posted:what? The edgy badass of the RX-78/Jedi Council lineage who gets a lot of hype despite not really doing anything substantial.
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Jul 5, 2023 20:44
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3 posted:Also why does the awful gundam have three beam sabers? They finally weaponized the 'chuck beam javelin' feature by giving it more to throw so that the pilot is less likely to disarm themselves in their enthusiasm to chuck beam javelins at targets.
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Jul 5, 2023 20:51
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maybe the beam sabers in this series are single use
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Jul 5, 2023 21:27
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The Mudrock was a cool final boss and is a sweet design.
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Jul 5, 2023 21:37
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The Mudrock just falls into the same 'good design, poo poo pilot' trap as most of the OYW-era super-Gundams. A Baoa Qu would have gone a lot more smoothly for the Federation if they hadn't had so many pilots who were completely convinced that they were hotter poo poo than Amuro Ray and got their bleeding-edge supertech wrecked by some random bozo in a Zaku.
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Jul 5, 2023 21:43
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Sorry but have you considered that the Gundam pilot facing off against the Noisy Fairy Squadron would have done better if she'd just let go of her hatred of the space nazis who killed her family and friends? It's just so sad that they had to fight like that when all Alma and her squadron wanted to do was have nice parties in
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Jul 5, 2023 21:49
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i hope "futz about in an overpowered death machine only to get abruptly murdered by some bozo in a zaku" is the tutorial level for a gundam game somewhere out there
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Jul 5, 2023 21:49
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Arc Hammer posted:Sorry but have you considered that the Gundam pilot facing off against the Noisy Fairy Squadron would have done better if she'd just let go of her hatred of the space nazis who killed her family and friends? It's just so sad that they had to fight like that when all Alma and her squadron wanted to do was have nice parties in She should've watched IGLOO 2 and learned to listen to her Death God, agreed.
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Jul 5, 2023 21:57
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Darth Walrus posted:The Mudrock just falls into the same 'good design, poo poo pilot' trap as most of the OYW-era super-Gundams. A Baoa Qu would have gone a lot more smoothly for the Federation if they hadn't had so many pilots who were completely convinced that they were hotter poo poo than Amuro Ray and got their bleeding-edge supertech wrecked by some random bozo in a Zaku. Just imagine how badly things would have gone if Amuro wasn't around but Char in the Zeong was, in the brief amount of time he was out fighting before Amuro distracted him he had already been carving his way through the Federation fleet, without that distraction he would have gone through it like a chainsaw through butter with nothing that could meaningfully oppose him
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Jul 5, 2023 23:09
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as best i can tell, Mudrock is an RX-72 with the shoulder mounts of Guncannon, aka aesthetically perfect
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Jul 5, 2023 23:21
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MillennialVulcan posted:as best i can tell, Mudrock is an RX-72 with the shoulder mounts of Guncannon, aka aesthetically perfect It's more accurately a NT-1 minus the armour add-ons and plus more (and bigger) guns.
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Jul 5, 2023 23:27
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Darth Walrus posted:It's more accurately a NT-1 minus the armour add-ons and plus more (and bigger) guns. I think it technically predates the tech and tuning of the NT-1, and probably shares more DNA with Unit 4 and Unit 5. Which all contribute some aspects of their design to the NT-1. It's a bit weird (blame retrograde continuities) that the NT-1 uses autocannons instead of beams in the arms though. Mudrock having grenades instead of beams or bullets in the arms is a nice touch though. The RX-78 series -1 through -6 and the NT-1 all make a very nice throughline, and I'm trying to stubbornly ignore all the other whacky original Gundam do not steal units they keep cramming into the 0079-0083 space.
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Jul 5, 2023 23:57
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Does anyone know where I could find/read a translated MS: 7th Gundam Fight?
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Jul 6, 2023 00:35
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Darth Walrus posted:The Mudrock just falls into the same 'good design, poo poo pilot' trap as most of the OYW-era super-Gundams. A Baoa Qu would have gone a lot more smoothly for the Federation if they hadn't had so many pilots who were completely convinced that they were hotter poo poo than Amuro Ray and got their bleeding-edge supertech wrecked by some random bozo in a Zaku. To be fair, Chris just walked into a trap because she wanted to protect innocent people more than she wanted to protect the Gundam. (It's one of the many tragi-comic ironies of War in the Pocket that the final tragedy only happens because they're both good people.) When she was on more neutral ground, she did pretty well. I'll also give Ford Romfellow points for being the only person I'm aware of to actually keep his Gundam in one piece through the end of the One Year War. Sure, it's partially since he got sent to escort Bakharov to peace talks rather than going into the main meatgrinder, but it's still an accomplishment.
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Jul 6, 2023 05:17
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https://twitter.com/retroanimechris/status/1676764348209848324?t=cynSkaY49cFPnFN10tm1VQ&s=19 Char Char Binks or Jar Aznable?
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Jul 6, 2023 14:45
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Quattro Bajeena is the correct choice.
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Jul 6, 2023 16:25
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Jar Jar proposing emergency powers is the Star Wars version of Dakar Address.
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Jul 6, 2023 16:34
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quattro bajeena sounds like an expletive jar jar would say.
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Jul 6, 2023 16:35
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Meesa came to laugh at you!
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Jul 6, 2023 17:15
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Oh maxi big da Newtype. Well that sounds stinkawhiff
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Jul 6, 2023 17:16
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Lalah coulda been a bombad mother to mesa!
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Jul 6, 2023 17:20
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I still marvel at the idea that Amuro perished thinking “dude, what the actual gently caress” in his final moments.
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Jul 6, 2023 18:41
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Sander posted:I still marvel at the idea that Amuro perished thinking “dude, what the actual gently caress” in his final moments. this is my favorite gundam factoid/plot point
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Jul 6, 2023 18:49
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Sander posted:I still marvel at the idea that Amuro perished thinking “dude, what the actual gently caress” in his final moments. Amuro just leaning back and reevaluating the context of every conversation and interaction he had with Char in the last 15 years in the two minutes before dissolving into psycho particles.
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Jul 6, 2023 19:16
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Rewatching an episode of Aqua Teen Hunger Force made me wonder what Carl Aznable would be like
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Jul 6, 2023 19:19
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Carl is far more of an amuro than a char, the real char in athf is master shake
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Jul 6, 2023 19:41
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UC ENGAGE cutscene staff seems to be real good at making something that looks like classic cell animation. This poo poo actually slaps: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GJHLEQqaerQ
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Jul 6, 2023 20:35
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Zakus being lazy slapping those feddie infantry around.
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Jul 6, 2023 20:42
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Despite the animation style evoking the original series, the actual scenario seems to be lifted straight The Origin manga. I distinctly remember a scene where Fed infantry ambush some Zakus and get shredded with those forearm machine guns. Speaking of which, Yas' update to Zaku II design, namely the decision to give them anti-personnel fixed machine guns, makes a lot of sense to me. Zaku II was designed to go up against ships and conventional forces. Why wouldn't it have weapons specifically for dealing with squishy humans, as opposed to the utter overkill using a giant assault rifle that shoots tank shell size bullets? Sander fucked around with this message at 20:58 on Jul 6, 2023 |
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Jul 6, 2023 20:56
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08th MS Team does give them some nasty anti personnel explosives as well. Basically a mobile suit scale fragmentation grenade.
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Jul 6, 2023 21:00
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Sander posted:Despite the animation style evoking the original series, the actual scenario seems to be lifted straight The Origin manga. I distinctly remember a scene where Fed infantry ambush some Zakus and get shredded with those forearm machine guns. to be fair those bullets were extremely good at ripping apart squishy humans in 0079 episode 1
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Jul 6, 2023 21:08
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Sander posted:Despite the animation style evoking the original series, the actual scenario seems to be lifted straight The Origin manga. I distinctly remember a scene where Fed infantry ambush some Zakus and get shredded with those forearm machine guns. The giant assault rifle that shoots tank shell-sized bullets is pretty well optimized for fighting non-MS conventional forces like ships, tanks, and planes. It's got a high rate of fire, a ton of ammo, and enough punch to deal with enemies that are armored - like, say, tanks and ships - but don't have armor as good as the Gundam's luna titanium, making it a pretty flexible weapon in the days when the Zaku wasn't fighting enemy mobile suits. As for why it doesn't have weapons specifically for killing infantry, deploying Zakus against infantry formations is ridiculous overkill to begin with, as evidenced in the video above. Zeon has conventional forces of their own that can be used against targets like that while you reserve your limited number of Zakus for hard targets, and if a Zaku has to clear out an infantry nest while doing a mission like that, well, overkill is fine; I'm not sure what real benefit attaching a smaller machine gun with its own ammo requirements and weight additions to your unit that is already carrying a giant machine gun provides. At least the standard Gundam vulcans are usually on units that have much larger single shot weapons as their primaries. Kanos fucked around with this message at 21:19 on Jul 6, 2023 |
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Jul 6, 2023 21:16
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Never forget that the Zaku machine gun is basically an automatic M1A2 ABRAMS turret.
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Jul 6, 2023 21:21
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Kanos posted:The giant assault rifle that shoots tank shell-sized bullets is pretty well optimized for fighting non-MS conventional forces like ships, tanks, and planes. It's got a high rate of fire, a ton of ammo, and enough punch to deal with enemies that are armored - like, say, tanks and ships - but don't have armor as good as the Gundam's luna titanium, making it a pretty flexible weapon in the days when the Zaku wasn't fighting enemy mobile suits. Plus, it doesn’t feel like they add that much weight relative to the rest of the suit. I can’t imagine they are too loaded with ammo. Seems like it could be worth it for a quick handy situational mosquito swatter.
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Jul 7, 2023 09:20
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Sander posted:On the other hand, I imagine Zaku “vulcans” would be more apt to use in tighter spaces where the suit’s range of movement is comparatively limited, which is exactly where most infantry units would attempt an ambush. Especially because the EFF had a dedicated anti-Zaku infantry weapon with a decent killcount. Admittedly, almost everyone who used it died horribly, but trading an infantry squad for a Zaku is a bargain. Best to have measures to prevent that.
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Jul 7, 2023 09:35
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Not having enough anti-personnel weaponry is how you end up with a Time, Be Still situation, and while that ended in a charming bonding moment between soldiers on both sides, I can see why it might not be something you'd want to make a regular thing of.
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Jul 7, 2023 09:46
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OK, so I hear that Build Divers is rear end while its sequel is actually good. Can I watch rerise without sitting through the first show first?
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Jul 7, 2023 11:22
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Sander posted:OK, so I hear that Build Divers is rear end while its sequel is actually good. Re:Rise will summarize the bits of Divers that are relevant to its plot, but yeah, you can pretty much skip Divers or read a summary.
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