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SkyeAuroline
Nov 12, 2020

JcDent posted:

I like how Inductii are supposed to be desperation-mode quick recruits and some are just no-drawback better.

Like trading out fury for fake 40K tacs.

Or handing out charnabals like candy to go fight prets and Primarchs.

I've gone on at length in other places about the ridiculousness that DA vets can't get volkite chargers (they were a 1.0 option for all legions as special weapons for vets, the only option vets lost in 2.0 - no, combi volkites are not the same option) but their mass produced child soldier knockoffs can get 20 to a squad.

It's "interesting" to see who got the no-drawback upgrades and who got the "worse than tacticals" ones. I feel bad for Raven Guard, screwed by rules yet again.

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Lucinice
Feb 15, 2012

You look tired. Maybe you should stop posting.
Can the Iron Warriors inductii take shrapnel bolters? I'd get a sick kick out of a "oops all shrapnel bolters" list.

Stephenls
Feb 21, 2013
[REDACTED]


I don't know if magnetizing the vengeance launcher with four 1mm x 1mm cylindrical magnets was such a good idea. At the very least I probably should have used six instead.

Happy with how the end result looks, at least.

Endman
May 18, 2010

That is not dead which can eternal lie, And with strange aeons even anime may die


I think they’ve gone the different route with Inductii and instead of them being raw recruits, they represent how the training of recruits in the Legions during the heresy diverged from their original template. So you’ve got Ultramarines beginning to look more like the Codex chapters of the post-Heresy, etc.

I honestly like this approach better than just Tactical/Despoiler marines but dumber.

JcDent
May 13, 2013

Give me a rifle, one round, and point me at Berlin!
Yeah, I was gonna complain about DA goobers suddenly getting armed with the specialist weapon that couldn't hack it in the mainline role for being too expensive.

Improbable Lobster
Jan 6, 2012

"From each according to his ability" said Ares. It sounded like a quotation.
Buglord

Endman posted:

I think they’ve gone the different route with Inductii and instead of them being raw recruits, they represent how the training of recruits in the Legions during the heresy diverged from their original template. So you’ve got Ultramarines beginning to look more like the Codex chapters of the post-Heresy, etc.

I honestly like this approach better than just Tactical/Despoiler marines but dumber.

I like the rules but yeah, they don't feel like raw fresh recruits but instead specialist squads.

SkyeAuroline
Nov 12, 2020

Improbable Lobster posted:

I like the rules but yeah, they don't feel like raw fresh recruits but instead specialist squads.

Well, most of them. Then you have things like IW's "too dumb to shoot the right targets" and RG's "too scared to hold objectives under fire" where they clearly did lean into "raw fresh recruits".

Lucinice
Feb 15, 2012

You look tired. Maybe you should stop posting.
FW pre orders for the librarian and decurion sagittar are up

https://www.warhammer-community.com...ege-of-cthonia/

Feeple
Jul 17, 2004

My favorite part of this hobby is the rules arguments.
Kinda disappointed that there isn't anything for the non-Astartes factions like Custodes or Mechanicum in the book.

JcDent
May 13, 2013

Give me a rifle, one round, and point me at Berlin!
The new Mortalis rules are fine, except that Militia is very constrained/unplayable:

*Can't take units over 15 models
*Militia and Levy squads are the only non-support squad Troops choices. They're 20 dudes.
*You're limited to Warrior Elite (Grenadiers lose support) and, hilariously enough, Ogryn provenances.
*You can't take Tainted Flesh or Debased Something, as one forbids Grenadiers, the other makes you fill up on Levy.
*Or, rather, you can take one of those if the 2nd provenance is Ogryns lol.

Though considering that most players are Marines all the time and Leviathans are now street (well, corridor) legal...

TTerrible
Jul 15, 2005
Got this sprue with my Typhon

What the hell is it for?

Book for scale.

SkyeAuroline
Nov 12, 2020

TTerrible posted:

Got this sprue with my Typhon

What the hell is it for?

Book for scale.



Upcoming plastic Cerastus knight (Acheron, I think?). Congratulations, you're the second person I've seen get the sprue at random.

moths
Aug 25, 2004

I would also still appreciate some danger.



Write them that part 17 is broken and you might get a whole tallknight!

Beerdeer
Apr 25, 2006

Frank Herbert's Dude
Yeah, I have a resin Acheron and those are deffo the weapons

AnEdgelord
Dec 12, 2016
Looking to unload some Horus Heresy stuff that I've finally accepted I will never touch. Lot is:

-Age of Darkness box, NOS and including all supplementary materials such as the core rulebook, reference sheets, templates and whippy sticks
-4x Sons of Horus FW Helmut Upgrade Kits and 4x Sons of Horus FW Shoulder Upgrade Kits, enough to fully upgrade all the tac marines in the AoD box
-Liber Hereticus Army book

PM me for details, would like to keep this as a single lot if possible, will send pics upon request

AnEdgelord fucked around with this message at 16:22 on Jun 3, 2023

moths
Aug 25, 2004

I would also still appreciate some danger.



Taking on my friend's Sons of Horus tomorrow with my Questoris Knights.

I feel like a bad person, but I've heard they're nerfed to heck and he knows they're coming.

Broken Record Talk
Jul 28, 2009

A three-hundred thousand degree baptism by nuclear fire;
we had it coming.

moths posted:

Taking on my friend's Sons of Horus tomorrow with my Questoris Knights.

I feel like a bad person, but I've heard they're nerfed to heck and he knows they're coming.

Don't feel bad, I'm sure he's furiously building Justaerin with Chainfists and Multimeltas.

with a rebel yell she QQd
Jan 18, 2007

Villain


Reporting in that I played my 6th 30k game recently and this amount was just enough to understand most of the basics of the game and my army. Still there are a lot of things I keep forgetting, like my special Night Lords reaction and other NL only rules but the games have been mostly enjoyable. Except against Ultramarines and their super terminators with their brutal rocket barrages.
Anyway, after so many games I have some idea about what direction I want to take my army, like adding more pinning and increasing unit number in all squads to take advantage of the outnumbering rule of the Night Lords.
Maybe one day I will play a game where I wont forget to use all the abilities and rules my units have.

moths
Aug 25, 2004

I would also still appreciate some danger.



That was a fun game!

We both nearly tabled each other, I only carved out a win on secondaries.

The big knights felt super rickety for their role, which is apparently "everything your Armigers suck at."

Which is a lot more than you'd expect.

My friend ended up using his best antitank on my Armigers, which ended up bouncing off flaming hot ion shields.

He spread out his damage, and it ultimately cost him. Going into turn three I had 30-50% damage on everything, but had only lost one Armiger, so was playing like nothing had happened. If he'd focused on my two questoris, I'd have been turbo hosed by turn 2.

I've heard talking about how broken armagers are because of the unexpected rules interactions (haywire and melta don't get specials, etc) but they've got stubborn Ld7 and 3 attacks. You get them into melee and at best they can pulp two guys if they're Warglaives.

The tempest warblade is such a ridiculous weapon. I was like, why the gently caress would anyone go B2B with you? At I2 you're going to paste everybody with a S10 AP2 auto hit.

And then we got to I4, and he pointed out that pile in isn't optional. He has to push into B2B so his guys can get obliterated. It's silly.

But yeah he left 3 VP on the table by not focus firing down two Questoris, one from Slay the Warlord and two from Price of Failure, (or Giant Killer in the new missions.) That would have given him the game, and also stopped me from accomplishing anything other than the "sit on the objective" one I earned.

E: I had a minute to think about it, and two things came into focus
1) armagers are there to kill vehicles and cap objectives. Questoris are there for everything else, especially Marines standing in groups.
2) in turn one, he stuck multimelta jetbikes in my warlord's face and they got shredded on the my turn. If he had driven around the ion shield to the back, I'd have been down 3 VP and a Knight all game. (First turn kill, Warlord, giant killer/price of failure.)

moths fucked around with this message at 03:40 on Jun 9, 2023

Major Spag
Nov 4, 2012
A lil Missile-missile fer ya:



Stephenls
Feb 21, 2013
[REDACTED]
Well, the rumors that it was just going to be one new Heresy modeled turned out to be false, at least....

smug jeebus
Oct 26, 2008

Improbable Lobster
Jan 6, 2012

"From each according to his ability" said Ares. It sounded like a quotation.
Buglord

Stephenls posted:

Well, the rumors that it was just going to be one new Heresy modeled turned out to be false, at least....

I'm hyped

Electric Hobo
Oct 22, 2008


Grimey Drawer
I'm very serious about the whole setting. Here's the first of my Inductii, cleverly infiltrating my buddy's Death Guard army.

Electric Hobo posted:

Infiltration complete, no-one expects a thing.



GhastlyBizness
Sep 10, 2016

seashells by the sea shorpheus
Toe to tip, that’s a Death Guard

goodness
Jan 3, 2012

When the light turns green, you go. When the light turns red, you stop. But what do you do when the light turns blue with orange and lavender spots?

Stephenls posted:

Well, the rumors that it was just going to be one new Heresy modeled turned out to be false, at least....

Epic 30k Official, lets go!

They must have seen how much the 3rd party epic market has exploded in the last few years with hobby resin printers.

Count Thrashula
Jun 1, 2003

Death is nothing compared to vindication.
Buglord
Super excited about epic 30k. What were folks using for unofficial rules? I'm aware of NetEA for community 40k epic stuff, but is there a 30k version?

Z the IVth
Jan 28, 2009

The trouble with your "expendable machines"
Fun Shoe

Count Thrashula posted:

Super excited about epic 30k. What were folks using for unofficial rules? I'm aware of NetEA for community 40k epic stuff, but is there a 30k version?

There is an Epic Horus Heresy by EpicAU. The main page seems to have died though.

Archive of rules. There are also PDFs somewhere as well
http://web.archive.org/web/20200219214507/http://epicau.com/mw/index.php/Main_Page

Army builder
https://munitorum.com/

JcDent
May 13, 2013

Give me a rifle, one round, and point me at Berlin!
There's also Imperius Dominatus if you are pining for more Space Marine 30k than Epic 30K.

Edgar Allen Ho
Apr 3, 2017

by sebmojo

Electric Hobo posted:

I'm very serious about the whole setting. Here's the first of my Inductii, cleverly infiltrating my buddy's Death Guard army.

:perfect:

Improbable Lobster
Jan 6, 2012

"From each according to his ability" said Ares. It sounded like a quotation.
Buglord

https://www.warhammer-community.com/2023/07/04/small-but-perfectly-formed-a-closer-look-at-the-incredible-legions-imperialis-miniatures/

JcDent
May 13, 2013

Give me a rifle, one round, and point me at Berlin!
So did Legions Imperialis
[ ] kill Aeronautica?
[ ] preserve Aeronautica in a Dreadnaught-like state?

long-ass nips Diane
Dec 13, 2010

Breathe.

JcDent posted:

So did Legions Imperialis
[ ] kill Aeronautica?
[ ] preserve Aeronautica in a Dreadnaught-like state?

They're not going to be selling any of the planes that you can't use in Imperialis anymore so I'd call that pretty dead.

S.J.
May 19, 2008

Just who the hell do you think we are?

JcDent posted:

So did Legions Imperialis
[ ] kill Aeronautica?
[ ] preserve Aeronautica in a Dreadnaught-like state?

Aeronautica was effectively DoA as far as I'm concerned, with them just selling through whatever models they had already produced. If anything 30k will help keep it alive, so option 2. The fact that AI uses modern 40k models as well is a sliver of hope I'm keeping that a 40k version of epic might exist one day.

Lord_Hambrose
Nov 21, 2008

*a foul hooting fills the air*



S.J. posted:

Aeronautica was [ ] DoA as far as I'm concerned

I doubt anyone played more that three games of Aeronautica.

ijyt
Apr 10, 2012

at most i was maybe going to buy some planes as set decoration for titanicus

S.J.
May 19, 2008

Just who the hell do you think we are?

Lord_Hambrose posted:

I doubt anyone played more that three games of Aeronautica.

I know someone who collects everything for and yeah, you're probably right.

Honestly this is an overall good imo, I'd never play 30k proper but I'll almost certainly pick this new game up and paint some world eaters up.

smug jeebus
Oct 26, 2008
I bought a single Thunderbolt loose off ebay. It looks really cool on top of my refrigerator.

Ristolaz
Sep 29, 2005

By completely blowing off my BS you have passed the first trial
I am definitely going to play some games of epic with my AT titans if possible (and if it isnt horrible to play against) and if the rules for aircraft are fun I'll probably pick some up

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Z the IVth
Jan 28, 2009

The trouble with your "expendable machines"
Fun Shoe

ijyt posted:

at most i was maybe going to buy some planes as set decoration for titanicus

Then you realise a thunderbolt is as big as a warhound and your sense of scale is ruined

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