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Huh, 96 new comments since I last checked the thread. Let's open it up and see what's..Milo and POTUS posted:Doom 16 or Eternal considered better? ..oh..
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Jul 9, 2023 11:32
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I'll be honest, I played Doom Eternal for about 30 minutes and didn't enjoy the low ammo limits so hosed it off
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Jul 9, 2023 11:42
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Yeah the ammo limits are really bad. Doom 2016 was probably too generous (and that one rune giving you infinite ammo just breaks it completely) but Eternal went too far in the other direction.
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Jul 9, 2023 12:14
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I think it's useful to play Doom 2016 before trying Eternal. Eternal definitely feels like it's building off the previous game, for one thing. Plus if you wind up liking Eternal I think 2016 is more difficult to go back to afterwards, and even though I like Eternal more I still think 2016 was really good fun.
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Jul 9, 2023 12:17
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Fil5000 posted:I think it's useful to play Doom 2016 before trying Eternal. Eternal definitely feels like it's building off the previous game, for one thing. Plus if you wind up liking Eternal I think 2016 is more difficult to go back to afterwards, and even though I like Eternal more I still think 2016 was really good fun. 
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Jul 9, 2023 12:28
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Doom 2016 may not have been a completely worthy successor to the originals, but I do think it came closer than most other big-budget FPSes up to that point. I wish the level design was a little more consistent, but the combat was a breath of fresh air. That's worth something.
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Jul 9, 2023 12:42
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When you think about it, Doom '16 was so much closer to the classics in spirit that a whole bunch of modders made "Doom 4" mods for the old games that transplant its gameplay. I don't think the same can be said for Eternal.
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Jul 9, 2023 13:00
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Grimthwacker posted:When you think about it, Doom '16 was so much closer to the classics in spirit that a whole bunch of modders made "Doom 4" mods for the old games that transplant its gameplay. I don't think the same can be said for Eternal. No, they did that for Eternal too: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=V7kuzhDNy9I (this was just the top result on a quick google search)
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Jul 9, 2023 13:03
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Fil5000 posted:Plus if you wind up liking Eternal I think 2016 is more difficult to go back to afterwards Opposite for me. I think 2016’s consistency and relative simplicity makes it a breeze to revisit. Eternal might be the most exhilarating game I’ve ever played first time out, but I find it a bit arduous to go back to.
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Jul 9, 2023 13:12
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Arivia posted:No, they did that for Eternal too: I have no idea what's going on here
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Jul 9, 2023 13:12
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Bumhead posted:Opposite for me. What I was trying to say was more like: If you like Eternal more then you'll probably STILL like 2016 enough if you play it first so you've lost nothing. I'm just trying to help people maximise their Doom based enjoyment.
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Jul 9, 2023 13:33
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This is totally random but I feel like rambling, so. I'm getting tired of developers endlessly flogging the reboot horse. I get that strong IPs sell a lot of games. But like when a game is made without even one of the original people that made it, it just feels kind of.. cheap? I'm not sure how to describe this feeling. Let's say all the members of a band are dead, and someone makes a new album with that bands title in the style of that bands music, we all know it's not that band. I'm not really trying to make any point here, I'm just kinda sad that we live in a society where we milk the gently caress out of old and dead poo poo instead of letting it stay old and dead and appreciating it for what it was.
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Jul 9, 2023 13:54
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Yeah, the problem with art is it's often driven by capital
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Jul 9, 2023 13:57
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Gonna get a developer of Theseus situation going. Mostly agreed though, a lot of these titles could stand on their own anyway. But I get it, name recognition.
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Jul 9, 2023 14:00
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Right, the fact that a lot of these games could stand on their own and become their own thing is a bit sad, too. Then again, I am in no way upset that a new armored core is coming out. I guess because at least it's made by the same studio. Not that logically it makes any difference I highly doubt anyone who made the ps1 or 2 games is still around in any major capacity. Anyways, I love contradicting myself. I suppose if I had to try and make any point it would be that if game is good nothing else really matters. But that baggage can be a lot and entirely kill off a great IP. /coughs/ goodbye unreal
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Jul 9, 2023 14:04
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RIP Unreal tournament 2014. You seemed okay for the 5 minutes you ran on my potato
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Jul 9, 2023 14:35
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Mike Arthur McVein posted:Love them or hate them, the one thing we can all agree on about the last few Doom games is they are not relevant to the thread topic. And that theure just like Dark Souls.
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Jul 9, 2023 14:47
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doom eternal hosed up by elaborating too much on doom guy. he was best as just 'the angriest man alive' also each 'ability' giving a different resource made it feel a lot more videogamey. like i understand its a videogame, but being reminded of it pretty aggressively all the time takes you out of the universe. the extremely stupid plot also kinda did that but in a different way. glory kills refilling health has its own weird logic, but then when you get to 'the flamethrower refills armor' its like uhhh... why? juggalo baby coffin fucked around with this message at 15:11 on Jul 9, 2023 |
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Jul 9, 2023 15:06
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juggalo baby coffin posted:also each 'ability' giving a different resource made it feel a lot more videogamey. like i understand its a videogame, but being reminded of it pretty aggressively all the time takes you out of the universe. the extremely stupid plot also kinda did that but in a different way. glory kills refilling health has its own weird logic, but then when you get to 'the flamethrower refills armor' its like uhhh... why?
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Jul 9, 2023 15:28
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Doom Maternal
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Jul 9, 2023 15:34
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Dieting Hippo posted:ULTRAKILL does the "wacky fast-paced weapon combo combat" better than Doom Eternal You can fuckin parry shotgun shells that turn them into a god damned mini nukes, ULTRAKILL shits all over Eternal.
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Jul 9, 2023 15:37
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The Kins posted:I would personally prefer for more games to be unnecessarily videogamey. I want Joel Lastofus to punch a zombie and have head-sized gold coins ricochet off the walls with a satisfying plink. i'm sorry joel but the last of us is in another castle
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Jul 9, 2023 15:49
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what's the present hottest way to play system shock 2? I remember there being a hd assets pack a long time ago, has there been anything since then?
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Jul 9, 2023 16:59
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juggalo baby coffin posted:what's the present hottest way to play system shock 2? I remember there being a hd assets pack a long time ago, has there been anything since then? That HD asset pack is a very mixed bag - I liked what they did with the Many, but giving the cyborg midwife porn star boobs and a pretty face wasn’t necessary, and the rumbler lost some of its character in the upgrade. I’d stick with SHTUP - that’s the Shock Texture Upgrade Project, which is a comprehensive range of improvements from the subtle to the striking - and wait for Nightdive’s remaster, which incorporates the latter mod and apparently fine tunes some other things besides.
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Jul 9, 2023 17:03
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juggalo baby coffin posted:doom eternal hosed up by elaborating too much on doom guy. he was best as just 'the angriest man alive' I like that the doom slayer is now canonically John Stalvern
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Jul 9, 2023 17:06
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Hasturtium posted:That HD asset pack is a very mixed bag - I liked what they did with the Many, but giving the cyborg midwife porn star boobs and a pretty face wasn’t necessary, and the rumbler lost some of its character in the upgrade. I’d stick with SHTUP - that’s the Shock Texture Upgrade Project, which is a comprehensive range of improvements from the subtle to the striking - and wait for Nightdive’s remaster, which incorporates the latter mod and apparently fine tunes some other things besides. oh poo poo yeah i forgot nightdive was doing a remaster, I'll just wait for that and yeah i really hated what they did with the midwife, they were meant to be horrifying, but the 90s like Poser boobs made them seem like something off deviantart i'm enjoying the system shock 1 remake, but I think I like the setting of 2 more. The Many feel like a more thematically unified threat than the random grab-bag of stuff in SS1. the pterodactyls and floating giant viruses have been taking me out of the horror aspect of the setting, which was a lot stronger early on when it was just mutants and crude cyborgs.
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Jul 9, 2023 17:15
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*If* they remake System Shock 2 I wonder what they'll do about the art style. The first game's remake is unique in that it's mixing old with new, lifting a lot of SS1's sprite design and colour palette directly and plugging them in to a modern engine, which gives it a real unique look, but SS2 just looks like any early-mid 3D game striving for (at the time) realism, lots of sterile corridors and the like that just look kind of bland nowadays.
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Jul 9, 2023 17:59
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haveblue posted:I like that the doom slayer is now canonically John Stalvern Well I fuckin don't Canonically he's Flynn Taggart as far as I'm concerned
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Jul 9, 2023 18:07
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Eternal should’ve leaned harder on being the goofy sequel, just go all Texas Chainsaw Massacre 2 with it.
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Jul 9, 2023 18:19
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Cold Milk Bottle posted:Eternal should’ve leaned harder on being the goofy sequel, just go all Texas Chainsaw Massacre 2 with it. Yeah, this - they should have gone harder on the "rip and tear" stuff.
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Jul 9, 2023 18:26
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haveblue posted:I like that the doom slayer is now canonically John Stalvern They hosed up by not making his first line after he wakes up in the flashback "No! I must kill the demons!"
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Jul 9, 2023 18:28
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You know I think we've had this backward the whole time. His name is Guy Doom, he's french.
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Jul 9, 2023 18:31
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haveblue posted:I like that the doom slayer is now canonically John Stalvern Holy gently caress i'm not the only one that remembers this 
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Jul 9, 2023 18:32
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juggalo baby coffin posted:what's the present hottest way to play system shock 2? I remember there being a hd assets pack a long time ago, has there been anything since then? On my laptop e: poo poo I thought you were talking about the ss1 remake woops Milo and POTUS fucked around with this message at 18:59 on Jul 9, 2023 |
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Jul 9, 2023 18:53
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They really should've pulled from the novels for the nuDOOMs because it gets very dumb but in a way that's entertaining rather than just dumb.
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Jul 9, 2023 19:02
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Groovelord Neato posted:They really should've pulled from the novels for the nuDOOMs because it gets very dumb but in a way that's entertaining rather than just dumb. You gotta be careful though--you don't want to upset the Mormon church.
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Jul 9, 2023 19:18
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In Training posted:And that theure just like Dark Souls. Absolutely. It would be so sick if the next Dark Souls expands on the Darkguy lore.
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Jul 9, 2023 19:21
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Imagine if they made a TekWar 2 with a horde mode Shatner interrupts to caution you for every 1,000 kills
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Jul 9, 2023 19:58
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I remember playing TekWar and Westworld 2000 when I was a kid, I want to play them for an hour or two and uninstall them again now.
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Jul 9, 2023 20:16
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Finished Slayers X. It was awesome but I think my save got corrupted as I died fighting the last boss but when I respawned there was nothing there, just level geometry but no sprites or enemies of any kind. The last autosave worked but any quicksaves after that seemed to screw it up again. Fortunately the last boss isn't that difficult after a few tries, but could do with having less health probably. The bonus levels were fun and reminded me of my attempts at Build levels. I think I was in the Build editor when I heard Princess Diana died in a car crash
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