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Well, it certainly looks like SAG-AFTRA is going to strike in a week’s time.anonymous WGA member posted:The writers have gone it alone on 7 out of 8 strikes and won each of them. We’ll get the deal we need this time as well, but we would welcome them on the line. The actors joining us would be as historic as in 1960, when concurrent strikes gave us health care and our pension. The WGA has long known that the studios give up nothing without a fight, which means walking, and it appears the SAG-AFTRA membership does now as well. The membership seems ready to walk the line.
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Good. They're gonna need the help. So disappointed that the director's guild didn't end up making a show for solidarity, and I was worried SAG would go the same way.
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Jul 7, 2023 02:17
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Honestly, this is amazing to hear. Seconding the disappointment in the Director's Guild, but I think both the Actors and Writers striking at the same time could do some real damage
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Jul 7, 2023 03:26
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You love to see it. God drat, labor finally remembering they have capital by the short ones is a sentiment that we all need to have forty years ago, but I'll settle for now.
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Jul 7, 2023 03:35
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Jul 10, 2023 03:43
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Thanks, Joe Russo
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Joe Russo is such a tryhard dork. Edit: Hah, that's not the Marvel / Community Joe Russo.
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lmao what a bunch of babies https://variety.com/2023/biz/news/sag-aftra-federal-mediators-amptp-1235667053/ this is how you know the strike is going to really hurt them. 
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Jul 11, 2023 23:54
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Gotta love the classic anti-union language also: "There’s a strong feeling that a militant minority in the union is having outsize influence on the negotiating strategy, with no regard to the heavy toll that a strike would take on actors as well as other unions and myriad businesses that bank on production-related work. "
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Gaz-L posted:Gotta love the classic anti-union language also: "There’s a strong feeling that a militant minority in the union is having outsize influence on the negotiating strategy, with no regard to the heavy toll that a strike would take on actors as well as other unions and myriad businesses that bank on production-related work. " "Outside agitators"
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Gaz-L posted:Gotta love the classic anti-union language also: "There’s a strong feeling that a militant minority in the union is having outsize influence on the negotiating strategy, with no regard to the heavy toll that a strike would take on actors as well as other unions and myriad businesses that bank on production-related work. " Variety has been blatantly in the tank for the AMPTP since about a month before the WGA went on strike, this isn't surprising.
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Jul 12, 2023 00:51
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This is a really odd bit of info isn't itquote:In addition to the executives discussing efforts to bring in a federal mediator, talent agency chieftains including Ari Emanuel of WME , Bryan Lourd of CAA and UTA’s Jeremy Zimmer have reached out to SAG-AFTRA leaders in recent days to offer assistance that could stave off a second Hollywood work stoppage this summer. The heads of *agencies* have reached out to SAG-AFTRA? Are they acting on behalf of the AMPTP? On behalf of themselves? They're in a really weird conflict of interest space here
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Pinterest Mom posted:The heads of *agencies* have reached out to SAG-AFTRA? Are they acting on behalf of the AMPTP? On behalf of themselves? They're in a really weird conflict of interest space here If the unions are on strike, then contracts aren't getting signed for new jobs. If contracts aren't getting signed, then the agents aren't getting their sweet, sweet commissions.
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Jul 12, 2023 01:28
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Agents can go get hosed. I really wish the DGA had gone on strike too.
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https://www.hollywoodreporter.com/business/business-news/sag-aftra-federal-mediation-contract-negotiations-1235533704/ SAG-AFTRA doesn't seem to be interested in taking the bait.
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ashpanash posted:https://www.hollywoodreporter.com/business/business-news/sag-aftra-federal-mediation-contract-negotiations-1235533704/ That's incredible. quote:But in its statement on Monday, SAG-AFTRA threw cold water on what it described as a purposeful leak to Variety earlier in the day by what it claimed was “by the CEOs and their ‘anonymous sources’ before our negotiators were even told of the request for mediation.” As if you needed any more proof that Variety is blatantly on the side of management in this.
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ashpanash posted:https://www.hollywoodreporter.com/business/business-news/sag-aftra-federal-mediation-contract-negotiations-1235533704/ good on them
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https://deadline.com/2023/07/writers-strike-hollywood-studios-deal-fight-wga-actors-1235434335/quote:Receiving positive feedback from Wall Street since the WGA went on strike May 2, Warner Bros Discovery, Apple, Netflix, Amazon, Disney, Paramount and others have become determined to “break the WGA,” as one studio exec blatantly put it. I hope bad things happen to these studio execs.
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Jul 12, 2023 04:54
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"These guys are so poorly paid by us that they can't afford to strike for too long to complain about how poorly we pay them! There's no ironic twist or joke to this statement, I am just a monstrous, soulless piece of poo poo!"
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Jul 12, 2023 04:58
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Zaslev getting booed at that commencement was literally the nicest thing that could have happened to him . These people deserve worst things but I'll take getting booed whenever you show up in public
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God. Sorry. This poo poo is so loving bleak. Deep down this is what all of our employers think The best hope is this article invigorates every one and just brings them together.
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Jul 12, 2023 06:53
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Here's an interesting response. Basically in the hyper late-stage capitalism world they've created, they literally can't afford to let things go on long enough: https://twitter.com/slack2thefuture/status/1678960256586776576
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slack is overly optimistic about the potential consequences for the executives. these people prioritize union breaking above all else the one catch I can see is that writers are already so used to deprivation and immiseration that starving them out might take longer than expected Oxxidation fucked around with this message at 23:50 on Jul 12, 2023 |
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I dunno, I genuinely think the studios - along with all companies, basically - have shot themselves in the foot with training shareholders to only expect exponential growth.
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Timby posted:If the unions are on strike, then contracts aren't getting signed for new jobs. If contracts aren't getting signed, then the agents aren't getting their sweet, sweet commissions.
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IIRC, the big kefuffle in the last round of WGA negotiations was over the agencies getting entirely too chummy with the studios. So there's precedent for the big talent agencies siding with the studios over their clients.
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Dawgstar posted:I dunno, I genuinely think the studios - along with all companies, basically - have shot themselves in the foot with training shareholders to only expect exponential growth. No, they've shot the rest of us, in the back
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howe_sam posted:IIRC, the big kefuffle in the last round of WGA negotiations was over the agencies getting entirely too chummy with the studios. So there's precedent for the big talent agencies siding with the studios over their clients. That wasn't WGA negos with the AMPTP, it was a separate issue altogether, writers negotiating with agencies. But yeah, you're right, and it had slipped my mind that the WGA went to war with the big agencies recently.
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Dawgstar posted:Here's an interesting response. Basically in the hyper late-stage capitalism world they've created, they literally can't afford to let things go on long enough: Could you copy/paste for those of us who refuse to sign up for the bird site?
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Gaz-L posted:Could you copy/paste for those of us who refuse to sign up for the bird site? https://threadreaderapp.com/thread/1678960256586776576.html quote:In the increasingly mega-merged and hedgefundified Hollywood, these companies live or die on their quarterly earnings reports. It only takes one bad quarter for their stock price to plunge, putting the company and the CEO’s job in jeopardy.
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the AMPTP's position is absolutely insane (this was also from twitter, but there's really nothing you need to know except the above context) "yeah they'll probably starve and become homeless, then we've got those greedy writers!"
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One studio exec lamented that if they were given the authority to "hunt writers for sport" then this whole strike would be "over in a jiffy."
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"Just starve em out" seems like the least viable option and if successful would create even bigger problems in the near future and significantly larger problems in the far future However if there's one thing billionaires hate more than organized labor, it's that one loving can in the middle of the road. They just gotta keep kicking it
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Remulak posted:Goddamn nanny-era Fran Drescher was amazing as a writer/producer/actor but wow after (maybe) marrying the scumbag of the western work she started equivocating about a sag/aftra strike. Leave the goatman outta this!
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We already pay you too much. That's why none of you have more than a few months' savings! Wait.
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Someone sent me this article saying it says that the writers strike fund is out of money but I can’t find any evidence in the text that this is the case. I replied where does it say that and they told me to read it closely and that maybe I have a reading comprehension problem. https://deadline.com/2023/05/entertainment-community-fund-financial-assistance-400-people-wga-strike-1235381313/
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We'll see pretty soon if the studios are really digging in their heels - the networks have to plan for mid-season shows by August/September, and ABC isn't going to inspire many advertisers if their spring lineup is as uninspiring as their fall lineup is.
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Ccs posted:Someone sent me this article saying it says that the writers strike fund is out of money but I can’t find any evidence in the text that this is the case. I replied where does it say that and they told me to read it closely and that maybe I have a reading comprehension problem. If I had to guess they saw the part about the WGA taking 2 mil in donations and thought "They must be desperate if they're asking non-writers for money" Though no actual correlation exists
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