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Man, I think I'm finally going to finish Gundam Zeta after legit years of watching it. Now what to watch next. I've watched every mainline Gundam show since SEED, all the films/OVAs since including IGLOO. And also 08th MS Team but barely remember a thing about it. Natural choice would probably be ZZ and Char's counterattack but I feel I should watch the original Gundam before those if I go that way. Zeta has been a bit of a drag honestly not least to being kinda dated, but kinda cozy to watch. SEED and Destiny I loved for the melodrama, I was fittingly a teenager when they came out and I watched them after NGE which was my first anime so they kinda fit. On the other hand I loved 08th MS Team for the realistic take for a Gundam show. I'm thinking 0080 and 0083? I'm planning to watch the Seed remasters at some point before the film comes out. I picked Zeta due to how it was being ranked in lists. On the other hand it feels kinda weird having seen all these OVAs and films and what-not with the colony drop being referred to and not actually having seen the original material. Also not looking forward to Char probably being a mustache twirling villain in the other shows. (I know there's a lot of discussion/history these threads have had around his portrayals and differences between the shows/films but Zeta was definitely not what I was expecting). edit: It's been so long since I saw Unicorn and 00 that I can't attest to them being good or bad shows but I was definitely gripped/entertained throughout, and I've somehow managed to similarly memory hole them | v Dessel fucked around with this message at 02:01 on Jul 14, 2023 |
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After I finished Zeta I jumped into Chars Counter Attack as I couldn't get into ZZ and just read a synopsis and now I'm watching Unicorn for the first time and it's cool so far
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Good soup! posted:After I finished Zeta I jumped into Chars Counter Attack as I couldn't get into ZZ and just read a synopsis and now I'm watching Unicorn for the first time and it's cool so far I think this is exactly my order of watch, too. It worked out well enough for me. Dessel posted:On the other hand it feels kinda weird having seen all these OVAs and films and what-not with the colony drop being referred to and not actually having seen the original material. The original material barely covers this, anyway. I was always frustrated with how fascinating the "One Week Battle" sounded but then the story starts long after all this flurry of big, chaotic activity. The beginning of the war between Zeon and the Federation absolutely sounded like the most interesting part and we see basically none of it. Maybe it's in The Origin? I dunno. That ain't the original material, anyway. Took many decades of exploring the UC to get there.
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Jul 14, 2023 03:23
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the one week battle is never shown in detail because each and every unit on both sides was a different, previously unmentioned gundam prototype
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Jul 14, 2023 03:34
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Just watch The Origon if you want the first month of the war. Then, if you feel you must, slog through Igloo or just look up some video game cutscenes to cover the war through to September 0079 when the show starts.
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Jul 14, 2023 03:35
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Things are interested because they only allude to it, explaining it ruins the mystique.
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Jul 14, 2023 03:48
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Gaius Marius posted:Things are interested because they only allude to it, explaining it ruins the mystique. It doesn't help that most people who imagine the One Week Battle view it as an uninhibited slugfest between two nuclear powers where multiple entire Sides of 40+ colony cylinders were wiped out in the crossfire between them as they desperately tried to take out the other at any cost, and basically no-one at Sunrise has ever been interested in portraying it that way; not even Tomino. Who always described the destruction of the Sides as being due to unilateral attacks by Zeon, and an outright and deliberate slaughter. About the only clear and unambiguous account of the Federation using nuclear weapons in the entire One Year War is to try to destroy Isle Iffish while Zeon escorted it to Earth, when everyone aboard was already dead anyway.
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Jul 14, 2023 08:31
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Iron Blooded Orphans S1 is now up on GundamInfo's YouTube page both subbed and dubbed if anyone wants to watch it but doesn't have Netflix.
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Jul 14, 2023 12:27
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Dessel posted:Man, I think I'm finally going to finish Gundam Zeta after legit years of watching it. Now what to watch next. I know Tomino made Char’s Counterattack to be a stand-alone and to make sense to people who hadn’t seen any Gundam before, but CCA won’t have the same impact if you haven’t seen First Gundam. First Gundam rules, as well.
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X-Ray Pecs posted:I know Tomino made Char’s Counterattack to be a stand-alone and to make sense to people who hadn’t seen any Gundam before, but CCA won’t have the same impact if you haven’t seen First Gundam. First Gundam rules, as well. I think I mentioned before but I went to a theatrical showing of CCA with someone who had never seen Gundam, and all I really needed to get him up to speed was "Newtypes kind of have force powers" and he was good. From just CCA he got that Char was a dude with history with Amuro and that he was a morally dubious liar. Did he get absolutely everything out of the movie? Almost certainly not, but he certainly got enough to follow the story and vibe with it so I'd say it does work somewhat as a standalone.
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https://twitter.com/SayaDoesStuff/status/1680211849449717761?t=K2qFXgedOorfssSlchV8Tg&s=19
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I agree, yell at the P Bandai logo. Have some Yas https://twitter.com/TheOtaking/status/1679966025775816704?t=eSjnHH3sprmH_WpHRIJ26Q&s=19 Arc Hammer fucked around with this message at 15:07 on Jul 15, 2023 |
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Jul 15, 2023 15:03
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Yas predicting the modern Jordan heel turn by having him be Char
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Jul 15, 2023 16:38
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How are the blu-rays of G Gundam? I ask because the crunchyroll version looks like it's ripped from a VHS set for eight hour recording.
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Arc Hammer posted:I agree, yell at the P Bandai logo. 
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That’s not even a Cucuruz Doan’s Island, is it?
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https://twitter.com/MON0EYE/status/1680374075523313673?t=YWFSHyBopV_92_cB_0oo8A&s=19 He's just like me for real
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Waffleman_ posted:https://twitter.com/SayaDoesStuff/status/1680211849449717761?t=K2qFXgedOorfssSlchV8Tg&s=19 Very rude of them to listen in on my Gundam conversations.
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Zeta episode 45: Actually a decent space battle since there's some sense of space/spatial awareness and different theaters of the battle with the impending collision on the background. Feels like it would make a great space sim mission or series of missions à la Freespace 2. Wonder if there's actually been any decent story driven Gundam games. Everything I've seen have either been goofy or some multiplayer games with low production values. 46: Newtype stuff going out like candy out of nowhere like bunch of people have superpowers. Recoa's entire arc in the series is kinda....troubling by modern sensibilities. No idea if it's a bad take but I think Haman may be my favourite character on the show? Maybe she's scheming, evil, I have no idea what's her end goal, motivations and if she's reliable even as a temporary ally but her character seems consistent and logical and not....completely mustache twirling evil, even if I think she'll definitely be up to some absolutely horrible poo poo (I think she suggested nuking the entire surface of the Earth or something earlier if things end up that way?).
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Dessel posted:Wonder if there's actually been any decent story driven Gundam games. Everything I've seen have either been goofy or some multiplayer games with low production values. blue destiny's a trilogy of dreamcast games with pretty alright stories. they're written by the same guy who'd go on to write the astray manga, which are generally decently well regarded. blue destiny got adapted into a manga itself if you wanna check it out, since i dont think the games got translated. might be wrong though.
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Dessel posted:Recoa's entire arc in the series is kinda....troubling by modern sensibilities. I really like how the execution of the whole episode where Reccoa turns evil, the pull of Scirroco feels sinister and horrifying in a way little else in the show does. I just wish it was for a character turn that wasn’t just “bitches be crazy!”
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Haman is absolutely one of the best characters out of Zeta
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I really wanted Recoa to pull through since Emma was so cool.
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Endorph posted:a lot of the super robot wars games have pretty good story and feature gundam pretty heavily. that said they are still crossovers. Blue Destiny was for Saturn, but it did get a sequel for Dreamcast that's pretty good, if short. It's called "Rise from the Ashes", and is one of the gruntiest Gundam games of all time. No Gundam (except an optional friendly duel against Amuro on the Japan only bonus disc), no Newtype stuff, no one-off superprototype ace machines. Just a team of GMs, a hovertruck, and a continent's worth of Zekes. Blue Destiny got adapted into a manga twice, too. A short one when the game came out, and a longer one more recently that might still be ongoing.
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chiasaur11 posted:Blue Destiny was for Saturn, but it did get a sequel for Dreamcast that's pretty good, if short.
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https://twitter.com/mechagirlaya/status/1680354273333215232?t=H9bD2YBHjoTkIxNUEiJywQ&s=19 Tbh I'm kind of a Domon guy minus the proficiency in martial arts and glorious hair.
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Arc Hammer posted:https://twitter.com/mechagirlaya/status/1680354273333215232?t=H9bD2YBHjoTkIxNUEiJywQ&s=19 The Mika one is hilarious: https://twitter.com/mechagirlaya/status/1680354304098541568
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the mika one feels like one of those cases of american fans not getting the actual fanbase for something (read: women)
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The Kamille one isn't even a complete thought? Guess I understand why this account was muted when I clicked through.
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I'm a mix of Heero, Domon and Suletta but lol at Setsuna's. Tbf this also comes off, to me, as Gundam dude fan who doesn't get why ladies like franchise if they're not all about the cool robots and politics.
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My favorites are Kamille and Heero and I find this pretty accurate, only without the judgment.
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Arc Hammer posted:Iron Blooded Orphans S1 is now up on GundamInfo's YouTube page both subbed and dubbed if anyone wants to watch it but doesn't have Netflix. Speaking of IBO, Urdr Hunt just updated recently. The main takeaway from this episode: Amida Arca is still an absolute monster in combat. Seriously, she just about makes ace all over again in less than a minute. And she's still taking the time to casually say hello to the pilots she's bailing out and to mock the people she's killing.
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Dessel posted:Wonder if there's actually been any decent story driven Gundam games. Everything I've seen have either been goofy or some multiplayer games with low production values. Zeonic Front and Climax UC were both pretty decent on that front though Climax UC never got a localization.
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i just started mobile suit gundam as a total newcomer to the series/show (i've played some of the f2p battle arena games online but never really paid attention to the ~lore). i'm on episode 3 and this show is pretty cool so far.
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https://twitter.com/TOSHIO_FURUKAWA/status/1672628531367669760?t=ADQMB3zw9NQFFbZAlZuDMQ&s=19 Kai has one hell of a Guncannon collection.
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He also has a massive collection of Piccolo and Portgas D. Ace merch, and has even had a dog named Ataru and his most recent dog is Piccolo. I really hope episodes 6 and 7 of Unicorn have more of my beautiful shithead son, Kai Shiden.
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Arc Hammer posted:https://twitter.com/TOSHIO_FURUKAWA/status/1672628531367669760?t=ADQMB3zw9NQFFbZAlZuDMQ&s=19 what the gently caress is that on the top left? it looks an sd but the proportions are off
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it looks like a zgok given normal hands, shoulder cannons, and a guncannon paint job
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Not a zgok but a zogok by the looks of it. turned into a guncannon
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Similar to the acguy with gundam colors on the other end of the shelf.
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