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Blue Labrador
Feb 17, 2011

I got new headphones and decided to test them out with my favorite Metallica album (Ride the Lightning), and it's always nice to be reminded that classic Metallica could be eloquent when they wanted to. Like, For Whom the Bell Tolls has such raw and punchy lyrics, it rules.

Also, Call of Ktulu might just be my favorite Cthulu adjacent media. It has such a nice, dreadful, occult atmosphere to it that I wish more Lovecraftian things succeeded at nailing.

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H13
Nov 30, 2005

Fun Shoe

Blue Labrador posted:

I got new headphones and decided to test them out with my favorite Metallica album (Ride the Lightning), and it's always nice to be reminded that classic Metallica could be eloquent when they wanted to. Like, For Whom the Bell Tolls has such raw and punchy lyrics, it rules.

Also, Call of Ktulu might just be my favorite Cthulu adjacent media. It has such a nice, dreadful, occult atmosphere to it that I wish more Lovecraftian things succeeded at nailing.

Call of Ktulu also has Cliff Burton's best performance on it. The Bass Wah is fuckin' sick and adds so much to the atmosphere of the song.

WoodrowSkillson
Feb 24, 2005

*Gestures at 60 years of Lions history*

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VyuciyFwnmI

Missed this a few days ago. Hell yeah

KozmoNaut
Apr 23, 2008

Happiness is a warm
Turbo Plasma Rifle


Hellripper still loving rips, especially live.

And the booty shorts are cool so I bought a pair.

For me :q:

Vulture Culture
Jul 14, 2003

I was never enjoying it. I only eat it for the nutrients.
This is one of the most claustrophobic mixes I've ever heard, what the hell did they do?

e: ah, they decided to have either the lead guitar or the keyboards switch off buzzing atonally at a high frequency throughout the entire song. Interesting idea, I love that for them

Vulture Culture fucked around with this message at 20:54 on Jul 13, 2023

Vargatron
Apr 19, 2008

MRAZZLE DAZZLE


I kind of get bored with 8 string guitar work because most bands just lay on that 8th string and don't do much interesting with the riffs. Ihsahn is one of the exceptions. I really enjoyed his guitar work on Arktis because it used the extra range in a dynamic way instead of just for the open string tone.

(I say open string tone because I don't even know what note the 8th string is)

CRIP EATIN BREAD
Jun 24, 2002

Hey stop worrying bout my acting bitch, and worry about your WACK ass music. In the mean time... Eat a hot bowl of Dicks! Ice T



Soiled Meat
7 and 8 strings get boring because the kind of people who play them haven't come up with anything interesting w/ 6 strings

WoodrowSkillson
Feb 24, 2005

*Gestures at 60 years of Lions history*

Vulture Culture posted:

This is one of the most claustrophobic mixes I've ever heard, what the hell did they do?

e: ah, they decided to have either the lead guitar or the keyboards switch off buzzing atonally at a high frequency throughout the entire song. Interesting idea, I love that for them

I'm glad I'm dumb as poo poo and cannot notice these things and remain blissfully ignorant

Kilometers Davis
Jul 9, 2007

They begin again

CRIP EATIN BREAD posted:

7 and 8 strings get boring because the kind of people who play them haven't come up with anything interesting w/ 6 strings

:hmmyes:

Spanish Manlove
Aug 31, 2008

HAILGAYSATAN

Vargatron posted:

I kind of get bored with 8 string guitar work because most bands just lay on that 8th string and don't do much interesting with the riffs. Ihsahn is one of the exceptions. I really enjoyed his guitar work on Arktis because it used the extra range in a dynamic way instead of just for the open string tone.

(I say open string tone because I don't even know what note the 8th string is)

It's an F# which is the same frequency as the 2nd fret on the low E of a standard bass guitar :)

there's a reason why most bands with 8 strings guitars either don't have a bass or don't need a bass

symbolic
Nov 2, 2014

on a Sentenced kick atm and looking for more of that melodeth/gothic metal like Amok. kthnx

muike
Mar 16, 2011

ガチムチ セブン
Unless they use Meshuggah tuning which is half step flat so F, or drop E, or a consonant 4th from a downtuned set of strings at like D or C or maybe even it's a drop tuning like drop F#

Varg
Jan 13, 2007

A friendly face.

WoodrowSkillson posted:

I'm glad I'm dumb as poo poo and cannot notice these things and remain blissfully ignorant

Hell yeah I figured out I'm pretty bad at playing instruments at a young age so I just bang my head to the riffs and appreciate all the hard work that goes into it that I wasn't willing to do

KozmoNaut
Apr 23, 2008

Happiness is a warm
Turbo Plasma Rifle


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=o4dot1OyzXY

The loving airhorn, I'm dead

Nordick
Sep 3, 2011

Yes.

symbolic posted:

on a Sentenced kick atm and looking for more of that melodeth/gothic metal like Amok. kthnx

Embraze were a pretty solid Sentenced worship band.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=r0DsHjAg37Q

Vargatron
Apr 19, 2008

MRAZZLE DAZZLE


Spanish Manlove posted:

It's an F# which is the same frequency as the 2nd fret on the low E of a standard bass guitar :)

there's a reason why most bands with 8 strings guitars either don't have a bass or don't need a bass

I think the lowest guitar tone I actually like is a 7 string guitar tuned a whole step down to A. You can at least do something with an actual 5 string bass at that range.

deadking
Apr 13, 2006

Hello? Charlemagne?!
I want a guitar with fewer strings personally.

Snowy
Oct 6, 2010

A man whose blood
Is very snow-broth;
One who never feels
The wanton stings and
Motions of the sense



deadking posted:

I want a guitar with fewer strings personally.

:same:

Southern Cassowary
Jan 3, 2023

deadking posted:

I want a guitar with fewer strings personally.

max cavalera fan i see

Vulture Culture
Jul 14, 2003

I was never enjoying it. I only eat it for the nutrients.

symbolic posted:

on a Sentenced kick atm and looking for more of that melodeth/gothic metal like Amok. kthnx
oh hell yeah, this dumb poo poo is right in my bad music wheelhouse


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Z0LDrhkGDM8

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=frzFdw6gLQc

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iCg53iLHX6c

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=G-zGdOaUWCk

xzzy
Mar 5, 2009

deadking posted:

I want a guitar with fewer strings personally.

https://www.krappyguitars.com

Omnikin
May 29, 2007

Press 'E' for Medic

This link was gray for me because I've jammed it one too many times

btw I think the full album was last week or the week before, worth a full spin

Omnikin fucked around with this message at 19:15 on Jul 14, 2023

Shredder
Sep 14, 2000

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CRIP EATIN BREAD
Jun 24, 2002

Hey stop worrying bout my acting bitch, and worry about your WACK ass music. In the mean time... Eat a hot bowl of Dicks! Ice T



Soiled Meat
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=elZux1U-ROw

ignorant and good

The Voice of Labor
Apr 8, 2020
Probation
Can't post for 26 minutes!
would metallica have stayed better for longer had cliff burton lived or was the fame or the meth or the ego or whatever writing already on the wall?

Volguus
Mar 3, 2009

The Voice of Labor posted:

would metallica have stayed better for longer had cliff burton lived or was the fame or the meth or the ego or whatever writing already on the wall?

No, i don't think so.
While he had immense influence of the band, he didn't have that much writing credit: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Category:Songs_written_by_Cliff_Burton

My take (supported by nothing) is that we would have had the same arch. Metallica just grew older, wiser, greedier. Neither Burton or Mustaine could have changed that.

On the other hand, they're still great musicians. Fantastic shows. Last one I saw was in 2017 or 18 or so. Not going to this year's tourney since gently caress paying $800CAD for 2 nights. But i've been to about 10 or so Metallica shows and they all loving killed it each time. Haven seen a band put a more engaging and adrenaline fuelled show (rammstein had more pyrotechnics though).

But .. im biased. Here's my first metallica concert: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jumgq6wX9nk . June 9th, 1993, MTK Stadium, Budapest.

Volguus fucked around with this message at 01:39 on Jul 15, 2023

Vargatron
Apr 19, 2008

MRAZZLE DAZZLE


Yeah, Metallica is consistently one of the best live bands out there. I took my parents to see them in Atlanta in 2017 and they were blown away.

Nazzadan
Jun 22, 2016



New Standard Elite full digital catalog is $1 right now on bandcamp, just a heads up

Nazzadan fucked around with this message at 00:32 on Jul 16, 2023

WoodrowSkillson
Feb 24, 2005

*Gestures at 60 years of Lions history*

Volguus posted:

No, i don't think so.
While he had immense influence of the band, he didn't have that much writing credit: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Category:Songs_written_by_Cliff_Burton

My take (supported by nothing) is that we would have had the same arch. Metallica just grew older, wiser, greedier. Neither Burton or Mustaine could have changed that.

On the other hand, they're still great musicians. Fantastic shows. Last one I saw was in 2017 or 18 or so. Not going to this year's tourney since gently caress paying $800CAD for 2 nights. But i've been to about 10 or so Metallica shows and they all loving killed it each time. Haven seen a band put a more engaging and adrenaline fuelled show (rammstein had more pyrotechnics though).

But .. im biased. Here's my first metallica concert: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jumgq6wX9nk . June 9th, 1993, MTK Stadium, Budapest.

youve spent more on metallica then like 80% of my lifetime ticket costs god drat

ultraviolence123
Jul 3, 2002


Nazzadan posted:

New Standard Elite full digital catalog is $1 right now on bandcamp, just a heads up

You get a ton of top quality brutal death for this price. The releases for Nithing, Gorgasm, Infertile Surrogacy and Ecchymosis alone are worth it. The Asian Pathological Vomit Gorepremacy split is also really good if you like later Last Days of Humanity-type blasting goregrind. The Cystgurgle and Excruciation tracks on that disc are phenomenal.

Shredder
Sep 14, 2000

The Voice of Labor posted:

would metallica have stayed better for longer had cliff burton lived or was the fame or the meth or the ego or whatever writing already on the wall?

cliff had nothing to do with it, it was bob rock.

I'm not sure where they would have gone after justice without bob rock though, that was pretty much their technical peak, it's not like they were gonna make a better rust in peace or something.

Vargatron
Apr 19, 2008

MRAZZLE DAZZLE


The drum backbeat in Blackened has never made sense to me at all and will never make sense to me. What is Lars even doing under that main riff???

Nazzadan
Jun 22, 2016



The Voice of Labor posted:

would metallica have stayed better for longer had cliff burton lived or was the fame or the meth or the ego or whatever writing already on the wall?

There's a lot of material in between his death and St. Anger so it's impossible to say, but in Some Kind Of Monster James says something to the effect of "If Cliff was still alive he'd back me up in making this a thrash album," when they were hearing how it was turning out.

Spanish Manlove
Aug 31, 2008

HAILGAYSATAN

Vargatron posted:

The drum backbeat in Blackened has never made sense to me at all and will never make sense to me. What is Lars even doing under that main riff???

The verse riff or the chorus?

ThePopeOfFun
Feb 15, 2010

edit: ugh nvm cant believe i furthered tallica talk

https://youtube.com/watch?v=wm-JtqwwJyE&feature=sharea

https://youtube.com/watch?v=yN5ZrUuue_M&feature=sharea

ThePopeOfFun fucked around with this message at 15:36 on Jul 17, 2023

Nightmare Cinema
Apr 4, 2020

no.

Vargatron posted:

The drum backbeat in Blackened has never made sense to me at all and will never make sense to me. What is Lars even doing under that main riff???

p r o g

Dead Goon
Dec 13, 2002

No Obvious Flaws



Vargatron posted:

The drum backbeat in Blackened has never made sense to me at all and will never make sense to me. What is Lars even doing under that main riff???

His best, OP.

His best.

Vargatron
Apr 19, 2008

MRAZZLE DAZZLE


Spanish Manlove posted:

The verse riff or the chorus?

The riff immediately after the intro.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zro_23Z-XhM&t=55s

Vulture Culture
Jul 14, 2003

I was never enjoying it. I only eat it for the nutrients.
It follows the time-honored '80s Metallica tradition of not giving a gently caress about tempo, time signatures, or any of that nerd poo poo. I kinda like that amidst this album's whole vibe of pissed-off hurt and cosmic unfairness after Cliff's death, the whole theme of needing to place this event in the context of a world that's fundamentally unfair to everyone on purpose, Lars somehow found a way to make a bass drum sound dissonant

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Cobra Commander
Jan 18, 2011




Never heard of Menorrhage before, definitely a modern take on Iowa and self titled Slipknot.

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