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InappropriateJazz posted:What book is this from, please?  Lots of cool concept art
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Jul 15, 2023 12:43
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alexandriao posted:What exactly would happen if Julian just said no to Section 31 lmao. They cant do poo poo officially, and unofficially idk if they would even bother the risk of exposure that comes with attacking a Starfleet officer Julian was already highly compromised. They could have made him do anything.
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Jul 15, 2023 12:48
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Why did I hear that in Garak's voice?
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Jul 15, 2023 13:40
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Every family needs a T'Pring's father in it. I just wish there were fewer T'Pring's mothers harshing the vibe. Also, never imagined customer service polite indifference to work so well a barrier to alien communication. Oh yes please.
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Jul 15, 2023 14:07
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hosed-Up Little Dog posted:
Starfleet definitely needs more sass in its ranks
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Jul 15, 2023 15:19
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Cthulu Carl posted:Starfleet definitely needs more rear end in its ranks
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Jul 15, 2023 15:47
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The Borg blast 90s German techno like Scooter in their cubes all the time because it increases efficiency.
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Jul 15, 2023 16:33
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Bismack Billabongo posted:Exciting to see the time honored trek tradition of Spock wearing beanies come back I was gonna ask when Spock's helmet was gonna be canon, but unsurprisingly Lower Decks already did it.
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Jul 15, 2023 17:59
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So I'm watching Season 2 of TNG for the first time and it's like, okay, this is starting to get better And then I hit the episode with the Planet of the Irish Stereotypes and uggggggggh
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Jul 15, 2023 19:01
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DaveWoo posted:So I'm watching Season 2 of TNG for the first time and it's like, okay, this is starting to get better Its not an excuse but at that time the TNG writing team had a revolving door due to certain person going senile and his scummy lawyer messing about, they were forced to sometimes pick the next episode solely based on "what screenplay is in any condition to be filmed by next week".
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Jul 15, 2023 19:35
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Jul 15, 2023 19:45
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thank you @soytrek but you are sadly mistaken here. Neelix is indica, Tuvok is sativa
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Jul 15, 2023 19:48
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Der Kyhe posted:Its not an excuse but at that time the TNG writing team had a revolving door due to certain person going senile and his scummy lawyer messing about, they were forced to sometimes pick the next episode solely based on "what screenplay is in any condition to be filmed by next week". I was just looking up the episode on Memory Alpha, and apparently the whole Irish thing was Maurice Hurley's idea: quote:Melinda Snodgrass remarked, "It was intended to be a commentary about immigration, because I hate the current American policy. I wanted it to be something that says sometimes those outsiders you think are so smelly and wrong-colored, can bring enormous benefits to your society because they bring life and energy. That's what I was going for. Now my boss, at the time, was Maury Hurley, who is a major Irishman and leads the Saint Patrick's Day parade. When I was describing to him what I wanted to do, I was trying to come up with an analogy, and I said it was like a little village of Irish tinkerers, and he loved it so much he made me make them Irish tinkerers. I said okay, and that's how it came about."
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Jul 15, 2023 20:00
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Cthulu Carl posted:Starfleet definitely needs more sass in its ranks Don't worry, between the Klingons being bitchy and the Vulcans being passive aggressive there'll be more than enough sass for hundreds of years to come!
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Jul 15, 2023 20:05
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Oh God yes I want this it's great
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Jul 15, 2023 22:27
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I would also like a space hooker please
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Jul 15, 2023 22:31
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The schematic of the Dreadnought in the background makes me laugh uncontrollably for some reason
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Jul 15, 2023 22:42
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Tighclops posted:The schematic of the Dreadnought in the background makes me laugh uncontrollably for some reason I think it implies that one of their dreadnoughts is named "Space Hooker"
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Jul 15, 2023 22:52
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I am certain that most of us being goons talking Star Trek are at least Dreadnought class space hookers if it comes to that.
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Jul 15, 2023 22:55
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I have a "head cannon" backstory that the real reason the Vulcans became so interested in humanity was to eventually use them as their warriors in matters dealing with the Klingons and especially Romulans. Don't want to get their hands dirty, so they outsourced it.
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Jul 15, 2023 22:58
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redshirt posted:I have a "head cannon" backstory that the real reason the Vulcans became so interested in humanity was to eventually use them as their warriors in matters dealing with the Klingons and especially Romulans. hard agree and there are some really good episode ideas to explore there imo
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Jul 15, 2023 23:03
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naem posted:hard agree and there are some really good episode ideas to explore there imo Give me an episode or 2 as examples.
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Jul 15, 2023 23:06
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redshirt posted:I have a "head cannon" backstory that the real reason the Vulcans became so interested in humanity was to eventually use them as their warriors in matters dealing with the Klingons and especially Romulans. Isn't that pretty much implied by ENT? The Vulcans are really worried that these idiots did in a century what they did in a millennium and they were sandbagging our attempts to get Warp 5 engine and go outside without their consent.
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Jul 15, 2023 23:07
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Der Kyhe posted:Isn't that pretty much implied by ENT? The Vulcans are really worried that these idiots did in a century what they did in a millennium and they were sandbagging our attempts to get Warp 5 engine and go outside without their consent. It wasn't really all that clear if it was actual sandbagging or just vulcans being careful and Archer having a chip on his shoulder. You could easily argue either way.
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Jul 15, 2023 23:09
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Der Kyhe posted:Isn't that pretty much implied by ENT? The Vulcans are really worried that these idiots did in a century what they did in a millennium and they were sandbagging our attempts to get Warp 5 engine and go outside without their consent. I felt that was more like an over-protective parent response, not a "lets gear these humans up so they can fight the Romulans for us".
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Jul 15, 2023 23:10
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Der Kyhe posted:Isn't that pretty much implied by ENT? The Vulcans are really worried that these idiots did in a century what they did in a millennium and they were sandbagging our attempts to get Warp 5 engine and go outside without their consent. Nah, they weren't interfering, they just weren't helping enough. Archer's dad was working on a faster engine, the Vulcans could have helped but didn't, so his dad died before ever seeing his new engine completed. This is totally in line with the Federation's later policy of not handing over advanced technology. Janeway did that poo poo all day long -- she could have easily solved the helpless Ocompan's impending doom by sending them a few food replicators. The Kazon in that sector were short of water, loving water, and she wouldn't help because it would upset the balance of power.
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Jul 15, 2023 23:38
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I vaguely recall a line or two from the space Irish episode speaking to a deeper plot but the surface was so absurd and the caricatures didn’t help. Mainly remember the hot lass and Riker being Riker. It would have blended right in the first half dozen or so episodes from S1 but definitely stood out in S2
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Jul 15, 2023 23:45
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The other thing I was thinking about when watching ENT during the COVID-19 lockdowns was that why wasn't there more Warp 3/4 ships for United Earth Fleet capable of putting up resistance? We see two of them, surely the United Earth is cranking these ships out as fast as they can, we have several trade ships and colony ships have been built, but why aren't there ships for security? I mean Klingons are a thing, Nausicaan pirates are a thing, where is the "home fleet", or anything resembling it? Just those few ships?
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DaveWoo posted:So I'm watching Season 2 of TNG for the first time and it's like, okay, this is starting to get better Voyager had a few episodes of quaint Irish village poo poo. I'm from Northern Ireland but even at that they are fuuuuucking abominable. Season 2 also suffered from the 1988 writers strike, so I believe some scripts from Star Trek Phase 2 were reworked slightly. Tell us what you think of Where Silence Has Lease!
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Der Kyhe posted:The other thing I was thinking about when watching ENT during the COVID-19 lockdowns was that why wasn't there more Warp 3/4 ships for United Earth Fleet capable of putting up resistance? The first episode is them first even learning about Klingons. And like, they knew they were needing more ships, but you can also get more coverage by having faster ships. Warp speed isn't linear. Warp 3 is only about 27c, which means it takes 2 months just to get to Alpha Centauri, our nearest stellar neighbor. The boomers are going like warp 2, which is significantly slower sure, but that means a warp 3 naval ship has to have cruise durations of years as well, since they'll have to go back and forth. And they can't really respond to anything. Focusing on Warp 5 means125c speeds, so it's like 5 times faster.
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Jul 16, 2023 00:27
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WattsvilleBlues posted:Season 2 also suffered from the 1988 writers strike, so I believe some scripts from Star Trek Phase 2 were reworked slightly. Star Trek: The Next Generation has precisely two scripts that were recycled from Phase II: The Child (season 2) and Devil's Due (season 4). The writers' strike affected how many episodes they were able to produce in season 2. Nothing more. This is a strange Internet urban legend (much like Shades of Gray being a clip show due to the WGA strike, even though it was written and filmed 8 months after the WGA strike ended; it's a clip show because they ran out of money and the season was badly over-budget) and I have no idea where it comes from.
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CainFortea posted:The first episode is them first even learning about Klingons. And like, they knew they were needing more ships, but you can also get more coverage by having faster ships. Warp speed isn't linear. It's pretty amazing that even with fictional warp technology, Trek takes place in a pretty small little corner of the galaxy. Except for Voyager of course.
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Jul 16, 2023 00:32
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Its because that's the way the founders want it, my child
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Another Bill posted:Its because that's the way the founders want it, my child Go back to the Gamma Quadrant shapeshifter!
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Jul 16, 2023 00:43
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WattsvilleBlues posted:Voyager had a few episodes of quaint Irish village poo poo. I'm from Northern Ireland but even at that they are fuuuuucking abominable. can't loving believe that big faced rear end in a top hat's name is mulligan backwards
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Jul 16, 2023 00:53
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Dabir posted:can't loving believe that big faced rear end in a top hat's name is mulligan backwards 
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Jul 16, 2023 01:24
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Remember when Captain Jellico showed up and got the Enterprise promptly in order?
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Jul 16, 2023 01:26
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redshirt posted:Remember when Captain Jellico showed up and got the Enterprise promptly in order? No. I remember him showing up and loving everything up.
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CainFortea posted:No. I remember him showing up and loving everything up. He was a normal captain thrust into a crew of relaxed chums but he did his job well and saved Captain Picard from Cardassian CBT therapy
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