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The Colonel posted:going to finish ff16 tomorrow morning. dont think it's one of my favorite ff games, i do want something more like 9 or shadowbringers/endwalker in terms of setting and tone for the next one, but it was a fun enough time Honestly felt like my prediction came true with this writer oh well
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it was better than heavensward at least. i don't think kazutoyo maehiro is a bad writer he just has pretty consistent weaknesses, 16 still on the whole has better character work and plotting than his work on 14 and a few of its issues feel more down to rewrites or the structure being based entirley around clive just not quite allowing for certain things with other characters, it's just hard for him to compare next to ishikawa lol
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i do hope the next mainline has more of a party-wide gameplay focus just because of that structure, playing as clive is incredibly fun and the game's systems basically do for summons what stranger of paradise did for the job system. remixing those basic ff ideas into a customizable action rpg moveset where you have full control over what you mash together in your different sets of abilities is an absolute blast and the kind of wacky megaflare/zantetsu bullshit you get up to with bahamut and odin is some of the most fun i've had gameplay-wise with ff. but yeah it, has the expected drawbacks of not really being able to spread equal focus to anyone, and there are characters in 16 who could really, really do with having some of their own time. more critically it limits their ability to have party members engage with sidequests and that's maybe the even bigger blow, with how much extra definition sidequests give clive it could only be beneficial to spread some of that around to everyone else. in the end though it's all just a result of the stuff ff16 is experimenting with to make its basic gameplay ideas work so i can't get mad at it at all, it just shows in aspects of its storytelling.
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in addendum, the ff16 writer's best work is the hidden sound novel in fft where a guy has three minutes to question everyone in a bar about what chocobo they're betting on in the chocobo race but in order to get an old guy's answer he has to rub his shoulder and they spend a full page of text on the sound of him rubbing the old guy's shoulder while the clock is slowly ticking down in real time
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Crowetron posted:The steal system sucks in every Final Fantasy. Even ones that have the team thief as the male lead, like 6 and 9. It's fine in 10. First attempt is guaranteed. Second time is 50% chance, third time is 25%, and so on. Also you can OHKO robots with it.
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I'm giving Troubleshooter a go and trying to parse the Mastery system is like staring into the mouth of madness, I don't think I understand even a quarter of how all the interlocking(???) systems work o_o
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The Colonel posted:it was better than heavensward at least. i don't think kazutoyo maehiro is a bad writer he just has pretty consistent weaknesses, 16 still on the whole has better character work and plotting than his work on 14 and a few of its issues feel more down to rewrites or the structure being based entirley around clive just not quite allowing for certain things with other characters, it's just hard for him to compare next to ishikawa lol I pretty much came away thinking the same. Hell, there was certain stuff that happens in 16 where I was just like "this is cool, but I feel like all of this was done already, but way better in Endwalker" (Late-ish game spoilers for 16 and Endwalker): At a certain point the Akashic really just seemed like the "we have Blasphemies at home" equivalent
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Anyone have thoughts on 8-Bit Adventures (2)? I picked it up around release but haven't tried it yet. I'm kinda between that and Etrian Odyssey 2 on my steam deck after I finish up FFXVI. malnourish fucked around with this message at 17:01 on Jul 16, 2023 |
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Jul 16, 2023 14:51
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endwalker was better cause it took more from 90s magical girl anime
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Jul 16, 2023 15:00
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Jul 16, 2023 15:15
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rayearth did have a big twist concerning its mascot character but i think that was only in the manga version. sadly did not copy the part of the rayearth anime about fighting your own lesbian clone
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missing the escaflowne/rayearth era of mecha
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i've always been sad that there's like six different rayearth games and literally none of them get to part 2
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maybe some day i'll play that weird escaflowne adventure game and the dunbine srpg about choosing your side, in the war from dunbine. which side will you be on when everyone dies in a magical nuclear explosion?
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malnourish posted:Anyone have thoughts on 8-Bit Adventures (2)? It's a good time, I finished it and quite liked it myself.
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i think that if you're making a retro inspired indie game you should try and find a better title than just directly referring to the fact that the game is inspired by old games. those titles never read good to me, no excitement or emotion elicited
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The Colonel posted:i think that if you're making a retro inspired indie game you should try and find a better title than just directly referring to the fact that the game is inspired by old games. those titles never read good to me, no excitement or emotion elicited What, you weren’t a fan of hit DS RPG Nostalga?
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Jul 16, 2023 15:39
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it was kinda weird the english release shortened the title down from "Winds of Nostalgeo" tbh
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Jul 16, 2023 16:06
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On the flip side "NEStalgia" is one of my favorite game names
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The Colonel posted:i think that if you're making a retro inspired indie game you should try and find a better title than just directly referring to the fact that the game is inspired by old games. those titles never read good to me, no excitement or emotion elicited I thought about that, too, but we're ultimately talking about a genre were the better regarded titles are named stuff like Final Fantasy or Dragon Quest and 8-bit Adventures just isn't all that much worse.
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Jul 16, 2023 16:35
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Dragon Quest and Final Fantasy sound kinda cool, actually, outside the context of them slapping the brand name on everything for 30 years.
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Jul 16, 2023 16:44
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8-bit Adventures is very bland, how about something like Octobits Journeyer
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Schwarzwald posted:I thought about that, too, but we're ultimately talking about a genre were the better regarded titles are named stuff like Final Fantasy or Dragon Quest and 8-bit Adventures just isn't all that much worse.
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dragon quest and final fantasy are good names that evoke some thoughts about the games that have them ("theres probably a dragon in this game!" and "i wonder what makes this the final fantasy?") while 8-bit adventures reads like the text thats molded into the plastic of a really bad tiger electronics handheld
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The Colonel posted:i've always been sad that there's like six different rayearth games and literally none of them get to part 2 Super Robot Wars did! Also 8-Bit Adventures sounds like shovelware. Is it actually good?
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the one that sticks with me is "secrets of grindea", which made it sound unappealing instantly. edit: i say "sticks with me" but it legit took a few hours to even remember
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I get heavy "we're gonna fix jrpgs  " said by somebody who hasn't played one in 20 years vibes from that 8 bit adventures game
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Are there dragons in Dragon Quest/Warrior, I legit don't know
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Red Red Blue posted:I get heavy "we're gonna fix jrpgs i don't really see that, it looks pretty genuine and certainly doesn't look like it's making GBS threads on people who like the genre like a lot of those sorts of titles do. mycot posted:Are there dragons in Dragon Quest/Warrior, I legit don't know quite a few!
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I have played the game. It is sincere and sweet and cool and funny and heartfelt
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mycot posted:Are there dragons in Dragon Quest/Warrior, I legit don't know The end boss of the first game is, in fact, the Dragonlord.
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ff16 done. tonally and aesthetically not really my favorite direction in the series, but i just like when the games are more weird and goofy in general like the psx games, so i accepted pretty early on that that part of 16 wouldn't be for me. there were bits of the story that felt like they'd been hit a bit by rewrites and maehiro isn't really my favorite modern se scriptwriter, but i enjoyed the cast overall and liked most of the sidequests, and the bigger and more bombastic boss fights and stuff were a lot of fun, and the combat was cool. think this'll be the kind of ff that builds up its own big fanbase for all the unique things it does, personally i kinda prefer stranger of paradise but i did not regret my time with 16 at all really. 7/10
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now i just have like 2/3 of the final chapter of tactics to do. and also three sound novels, hidden in tactics. i think i need to take an ff break after that, next time i play one of these i'm gonna shoot for the stars and either play 6 or 13
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The Magic Knight Rayearth season 1 OP was a banger in any language
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Phantasium posted:the one that sticks with me is "secrets of grindea", which made it sound unappealing instantly. Is that game good? It has the worst name ever, but I saw the premise for it years ago and it looked interesting.
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Many people have been complaining about the cutscene length in the new RPG, "Legend of Unskipponia."
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Heithinn Grasida posted:Is that game good? It has the worst name ever, but I saw the premise for it years ago and it looked interesting. when i looked it up to remember the name, it said it released in 2015 and was still in early access.
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Phantasium posted:when i looked it up to remember the name, it said it released in 2015 and was still in early access. i tried seeing if there were dev updates on steam for this, and all i learned was it started development in 2011.
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mycot posted:Are there dragons in Dragon Quest/Warrior, I legit don't know
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Heithinn Grasida posted:Is that game good? It has the worst name ever, but I saw the premise for it years ago and it looked interesting. I got gifted it a billion years ago and played it and it was fun then, but I haven't touched it in like... 10 years.
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