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Mega Comrade posted:Tiktok seems to be the new way music blows up. Oh no
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I don't think a paradigm shift that's better for artists but customers are just as screwed as when big corps held all the power is really all that desirable.
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Tree Reformat posted:I don't think a paradigm shift that's better for artists but customers are just as screwed as when big corps held all the power is really all that desirable. What does "customers are just as screwed" mean? How, in your view, were/are customers being screwed?
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Baronash posted:What does "customers are just as screwed" mean? How, in your view, were/are customers being screwed? Not being able to control when/where/how often you can enjoy media you already paid for because the media company and/creator doesn't want you to sucks poo poo and is bad.
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Jul 16, 2023 00:21
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Twerk from Home posted:TikTok payola is as bad as radio ever was. I don't believe that they have any rules about paying to play music, so that's what people do. It's a small part of this NPR story about the music business: https://www.npr.org/2023/03/17/1164300124/inflation-song-records-music-business-profit It's gonna rule when the terrible AI future comes to pass and everything is just 99% bot creators talking to 99% bot consumers while all the humans either sit in palatial elysium or labor in the pits to make that rich life possible. Especially plausible because general AI doesn't need to exist for that to happen. Just the obsession with efficiency and metrics.
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Jul 16, 2023 00:24
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Tree Reformat posted:Not being able to control when/where/how often you can enjoy media you already paid for because the media company and/creator doesn't want you to sucks poo poo and is bad. Are we still talking about music? The music sales platform that was referenced upthread was Bandcamp, which allows for DRM-free downloads of anything you purchased. iTunes switched to DRM-free sales completely in 2009, and there were plenty of other sales platforms that beat them to the punch years earlier. And, of course, CDs have always been trivial to rip and play on whatever device you wanted.
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Jul 16, 2023 00:37
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Tree Reformat posted:Not being able to control when/where/how often you can enjoy media you already paid for because the media company and/creator doesn't want you to sucks poo poo and is bad. nobody is prevented from buying vhs tapes or even dvds if they want they don't also I have news about how people could consume the media they paid for on cable tv back in the golden days
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Jul 16, 2023 00:49
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Foxfire_ posted:Spotify's licensing structure is essentially: You forgot to account for the scammers that put up stolen or AI generated music as well as the companies offering bot services to artificially drive up stream counts.
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Jul 16, 2023 04:04
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Kyte posted:You forgot to account for the scammers that put up stolen or AI generated music as well as the companies offering bot services to artificially drive up stream counts. Yeah this has been a huge problem for self-publishing authors going through Amazon. It's a big pool of money and a zero sum game, so of course some lovely fuckers are spamming AI drivel and using botnets to artificially inflate "reads."
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Jul 16, 2023 04:08
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I use spotify almost constantly and I while I'd believe there's a lot of that junk there, even when using their algorithmic recommendations I've only ever gotten real music. Might be my tastes? I guess it's hard to AI generate psych rock.
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Jul 16, 2023 04:08
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It’s hard to fake vocals, but there are already a ton of AI-generated instrumental or electronic music on Spotify and other music platforms. It’s usually attributed to some no-name artist with literally no online presence. It’s hard to identify these tracks just by listening. A lot of it sound pretty decent tbh.
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Lyesh posted:It's gonna rule when the terrible AI future comes to pass and everything is just 99% bot creators talking to 99% bot consumers while all the humans either sit in palatial elysium or labor in the pits to make that rich life possible. Especially plausible because general AI doesn't need to exist for that to happen. Just the obsession with efficiency and metrics. We're already there in at least a few sectors. The executive class clearly considers the actual human beings on both ends to be an annoying holdover they want gone.
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Jul 16, 2023 04:56
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Kyte posted:You forgot to account for the scammers that put up stolen or AI generated music as well as the companies offering bot services to artificially drive up stream counts.
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Jul 16, 2023 07:21
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Relating to the conversation about converting offices to housing, here is an office in San Rafael that has done just that. Not inside a major city, but an interesting example. Listed for $520,000 for a 1,066 ft² 1 bedroom/1 bath condo (with $655 a month in HOA fees).   
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Jul 16, 2023 17:20
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That's fuckin grim.
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Jul 16, 2023 17:33
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nonono its just the new office aesthetics
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Jul 16, 2023 17:42
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I'm the Moiré pattern
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Jul 16, 2023 17:48
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Half a million dollars and $600 in HOA for a fluorescent-lit box just lmao This is our future now isn’t it. A dystopian nightmare that still no one can afford.
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Jul 16, 2023 17:52
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Live In Office is a natural reaction to Work From Home.
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Jul 16, 2023 17:55
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Absurd Alhazred posted:I'm the Moiré pattern It would look a bit less grim with hardwood if only to give it some color... Also that's a lot of square footage for a one bedroom, and is likely to be a pain to actually use due to all the crazy angles.
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Jul 16, 2023 17:59
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I've been shown worse apartments in Tel Aviv at the height of unauthorized splitting. None of that grim carpeting, though.
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Jul 16, 2023 18:03
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Make sure to click through the gallery to see the original office. They literally didn't touch the ceiling or the carpet (obviously), and the office actually had a slightly more pleasant paint job.
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Jul 16, 2023 18:29
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I think that looks really terrible but I’m kinda curious to see what it looks like furnished for living. The pictures of it showing the original office do indeed look nicer because it’s not fully empty and with white walls.
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Jul 16, 2023 19:26
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Tbh I wouldn't mind because it's such a blank slate for furniture and accents and poo poo. I love that sort of thing and would go hog wild. I'd probably just heavily utilize floor and table lamps and see if it was feasible to install a couple ceiling fans. Use some stylish dividers to separate areas. I dunno seems like a fun challenge.
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Jul 16, 2023 20:22
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I don't have any comment about how it looks, but the price per square foot alone is right about what my entire average monthy rent has been over a lifetime.
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Jul 16, 2023 20:45
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I live in an office builsing converted into an apartment. They left the office style ceiling lights and the exit sign over the door lol
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Jul 16, 2023 20:54
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Boris Galerkin posted:I think that looks really terrible but I’m kinda curious to see what it looks like furnished for living. The pictures of it showing the original office do indeed look nicer because it’s not fully empty and with white walls. If they just replaced the floor and ceiling it would look at least livable 
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Jul 16, 2023 21:07
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I will say that I've seen rental properties a lot like that in the US ages ago. They definitely looked a bit better furnished, but still, there's an underlying... I barely want to call it aesthetic that this is from, it's not just it being an office-space.
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Jul 16, 2023 21:54
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Do you mean like using ceiling panels in basements and stuff? That's a common enough thing of you think you need to get up in there to your poo poo (literally, given plumbing).
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Jul 16, 2023 22:05
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There's definitely something VERY wrong about having a washing machine in your kitchen/dining room/living room area. Like the part where you would likely be keeping your dirty laundry basket in your kitchen. Might as well hang the laundry to dry in your bedroom.
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Nenonen posted:There's definitely something VERY wrong about having a washing machine in your kitchen/dining room/living room area. Like the part where you would likely be keeping your dirty laundry basket in your kitchen. Might as well hang the laundry to dry in your bedroom. I'm assuming they have a bathroom. Why not put it there? There is at least precedent for that.
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Jul 16, 2023 22:40
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Nenonen posted:There's definitely something VERY wrong about having a washing machine in your kitchen/dining room/living room area. Like the part where you would likely be keeping your dirty laundry basket in your kitchen. Might as well hang the laundry to dry in your bedroom.
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Jul 16, 2023 22:59
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I've seen that even in new construction to reduce the complication of plumbing.
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Jul 16, 2023 23:03
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Bah, I'm sure having toilets and washing machines connected up to plumbing is purely an astetics thing. Just put them where ever. It'll be fine.
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Nenonen posted:There's definitely something VERY wrong about having a washing machine in your kitchen/dining room/living room area. Like the part where you would likely be keeping your dirty laundry basket in your kitchen. Might as well hang the laundry to dry in your bedroom.
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Nenonen posted:There's definitely something VERY wrong about having a washing machine in your kitchen/dining room/living room area. Like the part where you would likely be keeping your dirty laundry basket in your kitchen. Might as well hang the laundry to dry in your bedroom. As others said it’s common in not-America. I used to live in not-America and had a washing machine my my kitchen as well. It’s just where the hookups are. No big deal. I kept my laundry basket in my room like a normal person. I hung my clothes out to dry outside in my patio to dry in the sun, also like a normal person.
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arent clothes dryers in not US also less powerful? they get the clothes dry enough that you then air dry them.
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PhazonLink posted:arent clothes dryers in not US also less powerful? they get the clothes dry enough that you then air dry them. I'm not sure on the relative powerfulness of clothes dryers in not-America but most people I know don't have one because it's a complete waste of electricity when the sun is perfectly capable and fine at what it does. Especially in recent years where you have heat """waves""" lasting months. e: I suppose someone in Scandinavia might have some different thoughts, with the sun not coming out and all. Boris Galerkin fucked around with this message at 00:37 on Jul 17, 2023 |
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I mean, I still only use the dryer for sheets and blankets, everything else gets dried out well enough either in the summer heat or the winter heating.
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Yeah, in the UK using a washing line is something of a gamble on the weather, and a lot of work compared to a dryer besides. Mine is perfectly capable of getting clothes dry to the point where they can go in a wardrobe with the door open. It’s also in my kitchen, because that’s where there’s space for it and it’s never caused me any issues. (The laundry basket is in my bedroom, though.)
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