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Mekchu posted:anytime i see jack della madallena's face i instantly think of 2005 video game stubb's the zombie man this is really well done. lol too.
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Jul 16, 2023 13:28
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VACANT has been a blight on the UFC for far too long and I think it's time we talked about them: https://forums.somethingawful.com/showthread.php?threadid=4037048
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Jul 16, 2023 14:11
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CarlCX posted:Nothing enormously exceptional, but Costa/Lingo, Park/Duraev, Prado/Azaitar and Maddalena/Hafez were all decent, and Holm/Bueno Silva is fun if you like watching Holly Holm lose. feels like jdm got a little exposed in this one. definitely interested in seeing hafez with a full camp.
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Jul 16, 2023 14:16
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waking up after turning off the card during the main event. first thing I see is holm getting choked out. feels good man.
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Jul 16, 2023 16:46
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JDM trying to defend takedowns with guillotines repeatedly in 2023 has me off the hype train, that can't be blamed on short notice when he was training for Sean Brady. I find it unlikely that JDM would've ever gotten back to his feet against Sean Brady. He caught a lucky break when that fight was canceled. He had some scares vs. Emeev in the grappling, too. His wrestling and grappling issues are fixable, but I'm going to need to see some progress on doing so before I start liking his chances against any top wrestler. I did think it was quite clear he won the 2nd round and the fight, though.
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Jul 16, 2023 17:30
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Yeah, after that fight the only people at the welterweight top fifteen who seem like they might not be able to outwrestle Maddalena are Garry, Luque and Thompson. Lot of sprawl work coming in those camps. Also, in what everyone more or less called: https://twitter.com/BloodyElbow/status/1680668718978801666
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Jul 16, 2023 21:07
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What's the status on Jiri? Is he still out with the injury? LHW is such a mess.
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Jul 16, 2023 22:19
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No one really knows. Last time he talked about it he said the UFC wanted him against Hill in August but he wouldn't be ready by then, so presumably that means the last quarter of the year if at all this year. Also the UFC told a journalist Pereira/Jan being a title fight was "a typo" but that seems like a hell of a typo, so flip a coin as to if it's not happening or if they just revealed it too early.
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Jul 16, 2023 22:42
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The executive behind UFC 254: Khabib vs. Gaejthe strikes again!
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Jul 16, 2023 22:53
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I think when Jiri's condition is discussed it should be referred to as his injiri.
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Jul 16, 2023 23:28
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TBH a Jan vs Alex title fight wouldn't seem that bad to me. Jan is the only LHW contender healthy right now and not old as gently caress or recently had the poo poo kicked out of them and in terms of hype you can at least build a fight around the whole "only two guys in the UFC to beat Adesenya". The 291 card is solid Lightweight Dustin Poirier vs. Justin Gaethje Light Heavyweight Jan Błachowicz vs. Alex Pereira Middleweight Paulo Costa vs. Ikram Aliskerov Lightweight Tony Ferguson vs. Bobby Green Welterweight Michael Chiesa vs. Kevin Holland But simply making that a title fight and moving it to the top of the card would then allow you to have the fight with Jiri at UFC 300 or something. With the other announced fights upcoming there's potential for them to build a monster card at 300 which I assume they're going to want to do. Normally they aim for 3 title fights at those big events and I would assume they'd be able to cobble together LHW, BW and womens strawweight given they're the next two titles on the docket for cards.
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Jul 17, 2023 02:06
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BlindSite posted:TBH a Jan vs Alex title fight wouldn't seem that bad to me. Jan is the only LHW contender healthy right now and not old as gently caress or recently had the poo poo kicked out of them and in terms of hype you can at least build a fight around the whole "only two guys in the UFC to beat Adesenya". I don't think this sentence is wrong, but I do think this sentence being right is an incredible indictment of the current state of 205.
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Jul 17, 2023 02:49
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CarlCX posted:I don't think this sentence is wrong, but I do think this sentence being right is an incredible indictment of the current state of 205. It's a hard one. I guess that large lads tend to go into other sports with either less brain damage, or comparable but a lot more money just keeps them out of fighting. I would have thought eastern europe would have been more of a breeding ground than it is for talent given that the only sports the large dudes seem to play there are basketball or weight lifting but if Fedor didn't inspire a generation of talent into fighting it's hard to see the Dagestani revolution doing so either. Who knows. The UFC can't really grow those divisions since they've really been a waste land since the late 2000s. Half the UFC's name talent their either retired, went down a division or matured up into heavy weights and spread across the other orgs and the guys they had over the last three to four years are somewhat aging out or falling off very quickly.
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Jul 17, 2023 03:01
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BlindSite posted:It's a hard one. I guess that large lads tend to go into other sports with either less brain damage, or comparable but a lot more money just keeps them out of fighting. I would have thought eastern europe would have been more of a breeding ground than it is for talent given that the only sports the large dudes seem to play there are basketball or weight lifting but if Fedor didn't inspire a generation of talent into fighting it's hard to see the Dagestani revolution doing so either. I think this is all true, but I think the UFC has also made some demonstrable mistakes along the way as far as roster retention and growth. Phil Davis, Ryan Bader, Corey Anderson and Yoel Romero would 100% be competitive in the UFC and at least a couple of them would be bigger names commercially than most of the top fifteen right now, and the UFC let all of them walk. Even some decent 205 prospects like Julius Anglickas and Alex Polizzi were in UFC feeders like the LFA or in Anglickas' case were straight up on the Contender Series, and the UFC passed on them. Combine that with Jones leaving the division, Cormier retiring, Teixeira retiring and Reyes and Santos falling to pieces, and the division--which has always been thin--kind of got gutted. And now, within that gutted division, Hill's injured, Jiri's injured, Rakic is injured, Craig dropped to middleweight, Reyes seems like he needs to retire, and Ankalaev has been asking the UFC to book him for months and hasn't gotten anything. 205 is just running on loving fumes.
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Jul 17, 2023 04:22
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BlindSite posted:Jan is the only LHW contender healthy right now and not old as gently caress 30 Jiří Procházka 31 Magomed Ankalaev 40 Jan Błachowicz 31 Aleksandar Rakić 31 Nikita Krylov 31 Johnny Walker 34 Anthony Smith 33 Volkan Oezdemir 35 Paul Craig 31 Ryan Spann 34 Azamat Murzakanov 33 Dominick Reyes 33 Khalil Rountree Jr. 35 Alonzo Menifield 35 Dustin Jacoby
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Jul 17, 2023 09:22
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Lucasar posted:I think when Jiri's condition is discussed it should be referred to as his injiri.
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Jul 17, 2023 09:46
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Brut posted:30 Jiří Procházka save_us.krylov
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Jul 17, 2023 14:30
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LobsterMobster posted:save_us.krylov On today’s game of “Said by UFC LHW Division fan or pro-separatist Donbas militia soldier?”
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Jul 17, 2023 17:14
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Brut posted:30 Jiří Procházka Wait wtf? I Swear he was only in his early 30s. Jesus. time flies.
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Jul 17, 2023 23:14
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Is it worrying there's noone on that list in their 20s? Is that a normal thing seen in other divisions as well?
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Jul 18, 2023 00:15
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ilmucche posted:Is it worrying there's noone on that list in their 20s? Is that a normal thing seen in other divisions as well? Depends who you're worried for, but younger people of that size and athletic ability grew up with Google and thus knowing how much UFC pays (or specifically, how much it does not)
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Jul 18, 2023 00:19
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ilmucche posted:Is it worrying there's noone on that list in their 20s? Is that a normal thing seen in other divisions as well? Light Heavyweight is really bad and has been for ages. Even back in the day, when it was full of people who were famous and that you recognised, it was bad. It's just that the fighters were famous enough that you didn't realise it.
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Jul 18, 2023 00:53
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ilmucche posted:Is it worrying there's noone on that list in their 20s? Is that a normal thing seen in other divisions as well? Yes, but also it feels like the prime for MMA fighters is in their early 30’s compared to other sports. I actually feel like a lot of guys who shine in their early 20’s wash out because of the head trauma and lovely pay,
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Jul 18, 2023 01:01
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MMA hitting your prime tends to be just that right spot for athletic ability, experience in the cage and not taking bad damage early. You don't really hit your athletic prime until your mid 20s and the fall off if you're consistent with training etc isn't until your late 30s. Most guys probably shouldn't be turning pro until their early 20s and it's going to take a good 5 years to hit your straps in terms of how to do things the right way for you. A guy like Volk is a good example. Hits his prime for ability and athleticism about 5 years into his career (around 2018) and just gets better from there. Most guys who are large athletes are probably in some form of college system and even combat sports guys are likely be primarily wrestlers vying for olympics etc until their mid 20s. Makes sense that LHW and HW guys don't tend to arrive in the UFC until they're in their late 20s. If you graduate college at 22, 23 and then spend 5 years on the regional circuit as a pro you're not going to hit that prime until 29. Conversely a guy like Renan Baro who turned pro at like 19 is full at the end of his peak by 29, 30. MMA is about the miles on the tyres as much as it is age - within reason. I know there's outliers like Arlovski and Jon Jones etc but there was a deep dive article a few years ago where someone broke down the MMA universe at a wide look and the average career in terms of guys and gals who stay in the sport tends to be about ten years as a pro with almost alarming consistency. The number of guys when you go back to look who hit their straps 5 years in, become god tier for 5 years and then have a horrible fall off is pretty long. Barao, Liddel, McGregor, Aldo. You even take a guy like Condit. 10 years into his career he has a 28 and 5 record. After that period - 4 and 9.
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Jul 18, 2023 01:16
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This made me curious enough to be a weird data nerd again. The age of each Light-Heavyweight champion when they first won the belt: Frank Shamrock - 25 Tito Ortiz - 25 Randy Couture - 40 Vitor Belfort - 26 Chuck Liddell - 35 Quinton Jackson - 28 with one month left Forrest Griffin - 29 Rashad Evans - 29 Lyoto Machida - 30 with seven days left Mauricio Rua - 28 Jon Jones - 23 with one month left Daniel Cormier - 36 Jan Blachowicz - 37 Glover Teixeira - 42 Jiri Prochazka - 29 Jamahal Hill - 31 Average age of a first-time LHW champ: 30.8. If you take out the two outliers in Jon and Glover, that turns into 30.5, so the difference is negligible. But this mathematically proves Jiri's the only person in the division who's allowed to win the belt. Everyone else should file for SSI and get it over with.
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Jul 18, 2023 02:58
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shogun was younger than lyoto 
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Jul 18, 2023 03:11
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shogun has the benjamin button disease from having trained at chute boxe
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Jul 18, 2023 14:33
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Mekchu posted:shogun has the benjamin button disease from having trained at chute boxe ... are you suggesting chute box has made him younger???
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Jul 18, 2023 14:59
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We're still in the rumor phase of this, but allegedly Paulo Costa has been removed from the Ikram fight to fight Chimaev in Abu Dhabi, and Ikram will take on Roman Dolidze instead. Silly, but two better fights come out of it
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Jul 18, 2023 15:03
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Bluedeanie posted:... are you suggesting chute box has made him younger??? i suppose it is possible. his brother has the brain of a child
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Jul 18, 2023 15:17
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Bluedeanie posted:... are you suggesting chute box has made him younger??? leaving chute boxe has
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Jul 18, 2023 15:37
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there's rumors going around dana was gonna go on some stream hosted by adin 'showing porn to my underage viewers while also professing porn is ruining your brain' ross' & andrew 'sex trafficking and rapist' tate stream. of course the only place this stuff was posted was on twitter where their dipshit followers are the only ones talking about it and because the racist kid born with an emerald spoon in his mouth delegitimized the verified accounts system, it's all stupidly hard to verify tldr: rumors were going around dana was gonna hang out with andrew tate & adin ross (the suck up who literally sniffed tate's chair after he got up from it) stream. but its hard to confirm since its all originating on twitter. Mekchu fucked around with this message at 15:50 on Jul 18, 2023 |
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Jul 18, 2023 15:40
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saw a rumor goin around that dana white is a stupid moron with an ugly face and a big butt and his butt smells, and he likes to kiss his own butt
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Jul 18, 2023 16:22
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DO YOU WANT TO BE A STUPID MORON WITH AN UGLY FACE AND A BIG BUTT AND YOUR BUTT SMELLS AND YOU LIKE TO KISS YOUR OWN BUTT!!!???
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Jul 18, 2023 16:44
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I dunno what to tell you guys, this kid...look, we've had talks, and one thing that's become very clear is that he doesn't want to be a stupid moron with an ugly face and a big butt and a butt that smells. We offered him the opportunity to kiss his own butt and he said "no", so we dunno what the gently caress is going on.
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Jul 18, 2023 17:13
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Mekchu posted:there's rumors going around dana was gonna go on some stream hosted by adin 'showing porn to my underage viewers while also professing porn is ruining your brain' ross' & andrew 'sex trafficking and rapist' tate stream. Lmao he was going to do this only two weeks after promoting the child trafficking movie
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Jul 18, 2023 17:36
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reeg posted:We're still in the rumor phase of this, but allegedly Paulo Costa has been removed from the Ikram fight to fight Chimaev in Abu Dhabi, and Ikram will take on Roman Dolidze instead. Silly, but two better fights come out of it Dolidze's people now say he's not fighting, so no one knows what's going on. Islam Makhachev is also now calling out Leon Edwards for a welterweight title fight in Abu Dhabi.
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Jul 18, 2023 21:53
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nothing matters who gives a poo poo here's a guy fighting himself but wearing a fake mustache
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Jul 18, 2023 21:55
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STONE COLD 64 posted:shogun was younger than lyoto Remember the first Hendo fight, that epic clush between two battleaxes? Remember them shuffling around in between trading titanic, train stopping punches? Remember both men clearly exhausted beyond measure but both capable of throwing a punch that could knock out god? Remember them landing those punches at will on the only other man who could withstand them? Remember the final round as both men's bodies gave out even as their spirits did not? At the time of that insane fight, a fight that would have been an implausible final scene in a film, a capstone on a long and epic career for any fighter...Shogun was 29. LobsterMobster posted:nothing matters who gives a poo poo here's a guy fighting himself but wearing a fake mustache 
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Conor avoids the clean sweep and finally his team wins a fight! https://twitter.com/jedigoodman/status/1681496806713356288?s=20
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