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banned from Starbucks posted:Star Wars is for children are children nowadays into star wars? i think i only ever see fat middle aged men into it
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feedmyleg posted:My biggest problem with Rebels is that it seems to be aimed at a slightly younger demo than the best of TCW (e.g. the final season), though maybe not much younger based on an average episode. The goofiness, the stakes, the level of intelligence the average character tends to operate on, it all just reads more "kids show" than "all ages show" much of the time. Just because an animated series has a target demo of "kids" doesn't prevent it from having well written, compelling stories with strong characters, imo.
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Jul 19, 2023 06:16
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I feel like a lot of people including some ITT have attested over the sequel period that their very young daughters liked rey. I don't really know to what extent that converts into being "into star wars" generally, but regardless I'm pretty bearish on how much post sequel shelf life that will have No Mods No Masters fucked around with this message at 06:36 on Jul 19, 2023 |
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Mantis42 posted:are children nowadays into star wars? i think i only ever see fat middle aged men into it Based on what I see at Halloween and book week and at the houses of my daughter's friends yes, but it's not as ubiquitous as it once was.
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Jul 19, 2023 06:24
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I can attest that my friend's two seven year old girls adore Ashoka and Leia and the big event of their birthday this past year was being able to watch Revenge of the Sith despite it being a little intense for their sensibilities. They already knew the spoilers because of a library book they read, but they adored it. On another note, are there any other places online to talk about Star Wars that aren't completely embarrassing? Reddit is of course awful, TheForce.net seems like it's mostly pedantic greybeards, and I'm not hip enough to know how to find a decent Discord. feedmyleg fucked around with this message at 06:51 on Jul 19, 2023 |
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Jul 19, 2023 06:47
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banned from Starbucks posted:Star Wars is for children Someone should take an episode from the old He-Man cartoon and do the most bare-bones photoshop to make everybody Star Wars characters, see how it works.
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Jul 19, 2023 07:07
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You probably don't even need to go that far - the old Droids and Ewoks cartoon are full of weird 80's Star Wars kids show stuff. One episode written by Paul Dini (who also wrote for He-Man) revolves around a rogue Imperial scientist stealing a magical Ewok artifact as part of a scheme to assassinate the Emperor. The Ewoks stop him, the Emperor is saved, and the last we see of the scientist is him being marched aboard the Emperor's shuttle by to be electrocuted to death.
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Jul 19, 2023 08:41
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No Mods No Masters posted:I feel like a lot of people including some ITT have attested over the sequel period that their very young daughters liked rey. Little girls usually like "girl characters" in movies if they can relate to them in one way or another, i.e. if they like their aesthetic or character traits. My daughter (about 7yo) watched Fury Road with me recently and was only interested in the Immortan Joe brides because they look like princesses. I'm pretty sure she would like Rey if we watched the ST, but I honestly don't feel like introducing her to the films (because I don't like them and don't think she would like them either).
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Mantis42 posted:are children nowadays into star wars? i think i only ever see fat middle aged men into it ignoring the baby yoda phenomenon here The REAL Goobusters fucked around with this message at 20:27 on Jul 21, 2023 |
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Jul 19, 2023 19:41
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ungulateman posted:the characterization isn't precisely 'missing' from episode 3, but you can definitely feel big jeorg straining to fit as much of the fun space adventures he wants to tell into the first half-hour as he can, without compromising on the actual narrative (and plot) of the film. I mean, this is why I had that love/hate relationship with the EU in the first place. Like of course as a kid I wanted to see Luke fighting space pirates and having some random conflict with Vader in his lava castle that had never actually existed on screen before Rogue One, but this also runs the risk of learning that Han Solo bangs space otters and Alderraan bug orgies exist. Having a ton of shows and movies of varying quality instead of just comic books and terrible novels is just the outgrowth of that. What's weird about it now is that roughly 100 hours of SW media has been created to fill in those gaps but all of it exclusively takes place just before or just after the OT, like that three movie middle is now this sacrosanct period. I don't know if that's some official Disney edict and I didn't even notice it until looking at the 'watch everything in timeline order' thing on D+ but it stood out.
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On the "do kids care about this" topic, anecdotally, my daughter will be turning five in a couple of weeks. Among her and her classmates, they know "baby Yoda" and love that. But broadly, I don't think any of them care. Mind you, this is a class whose parents are Star Wars nerds like I am, as I've come to discover, and I know we're all actively trying to get them to like it. For the most part though, her class adores Spider-Man and MCU Avengers. I think that's due in large part to how much they all gravitate to Spidey and Friends which is on Disney Junior and Disney+. In that show, they routinely team up with their friends Hulk, Black Panther, Ms. Marvel and a handful of other characters. I think there's a chibi Captain America that shows up, too, but I can't remember. On top of that, PJ Masks - another Disney Jr. IP - is a sensation with kids so it contributes to a general love of capes. Star Wars only just launched some show with baby Jedi called Young Jedi Adventures, but I don't think it's been around long enough to get a ton of kids' attention. I keep asking my daughter to watch it so I can see what it even is, but she refuses.
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Jul 19, 2023 20:05
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The Marvel comics have been covering the OT era since they launched in 2015, with 2015-2019 covering the gap between A New Hope and The Empire Strikes Back, and 2020 to the present covering the gap between Empire and Jedi. But having the bulk of stories taking place outside the confines of the original movies isn't really new. From the Thrawn Trilogy onwards, the vast majority of EU material took place in the period after the movies, because it allowed more freedom in storytelling. Then when the prequels came out, the post-2005 EU had a rush of comics, novels, and video games set in the period between Episodes 3 and 4 because it was a new 20-year chunk that didn't have much already going on. So when Disney wiped the slate clean, the post-OT period and the pre-OT period opened up for new stories again - specifically stories that allowed the creatives to use all the iconography of the movies without having to sorry about being constrained narratively or stepping on anyone else's toes.
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Jul 19, 2023 20:06
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I feel like star wars has really missed a trick not pushing a character with a bright red and blue color scheme to appeal to the vast spider man and super mario liker demos
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Jul 19, 2023 20:20
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Robot Style posted:The Marvel comics have been covering the OT era since they launched in 2015, with 2015-2019 covering the gap between A New Hope and The Empire Strikes Back, and 2020 to the present covering the gap between Empire and Jedi. And they did a very good job at speedrunning the EU nonsense back into existence
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The rules say that once you bring back Sheev, you have done an EU. Sorry.
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It might not seem so now, but people are actually pretty tolerant of the first time sheev comes back in your EU versus times 2+. I'm looking forward to the rey standalone
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Wolfsheim posted:Okay having finally done the full Ep I -> Ep II -> full Clone Wars saga -> Ep III...cartoon fans are vindicated, Ep III is 100% a better film with seven seasons of Ahsoka and co's adventures bouncing around in your head to fill in all the characterization otherwise missing from Ep III. The final four episodes of CW basically running parallel as a kind of Ep III-2 is such a good choice, like they give Vader the pathos he should have had in the movie about him? It almost annoys me how well they pull it off considering the CW movie that kicks it all of us is so egregiously bad lol If you liked Clone Wars, you should watch Rebels. The first season is a bit rough, especially when it comes to animation style, but like Clone Wars, that improves as it goes on, as they add character models. By season 2 and 3, you're into some of the best animated Star Wars content that exists. KittyEmpress posted:Animated Star Wars is usually good, I'd even extend that to Bad Batch which people seem to call the worst of the animated stuff. I personally think the only live action stuff that is better than the Bad Batch is Andor. Who says that? Resistance is the worst, easily. Mantis42 posted:are children nowadays into star wars? i think i only ever see fat middle aged men into it In so much as they're into TV and movies at all? Sure. Children are mostly into YouTube, Fortnite, TikTok, and Roblox these days, depending on their age. If a video lasts longer than a few minutes, most kids don't give a poo poo. But when Star Wars shows up in those things, yeah, though not as much as they like Marvel. I'm honestly not sure what happens to movies and TV in the next 20-30 years, especially with the studios doing their best to destroy the very system that feeds them. Doronin posted:On the "do kids care about this" topic, anecdotally, my daughter will be turning five in a couple of weeks. Among her and her classmates, they know "baby Yoda" and love that. But broadly, I don't think any of them care. Mind you, this is a class whose parents are Star Wars nerds like I am, as I've come to discover, and I know we're all actively trying to get them to like it. This has been my experience as well. Only my daughter, who is now seven, loves Rey as much as Baby Yoda, due to some trips to Disney World. She does love the LEGO Star Wars Holiday Special as a result. (Because of that, she calls Palpatine the, "Less talky talky, more fighty fighty guy", and laughs every time she says it.) thrawn527 fucked around with this message at 21:26 on Jul 19, 2023 |
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No Mods No Masters posted:I feel like star wars has really missed a trick not pushing a character with a bright red and blue color scheme to appeal to the vast spider man and super mario liker demos Darth Maul on a poorly calibrated TV
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Jul 19, 2023 22:19
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They tried that. Didn't work.
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Captain Jesus posted:. My daughter (about 7yo) watched Fury Road with me are you serious
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It contains some very valuable lessons for young women
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He's getting her ready for our post-apocalyptic future You need to know that bullets come from the bullet farm and gas comes from gas town
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Here’s some hosed up news. https://wlwt.com/article/fluke-skywalker-john-stevens-arrested-child-pornography/44592470    He posted all over imgur all the time, was a dead ringer for old man Mark Hamil and would visit kids in the hospital as Luke Skywalker. Imgur’s pretty devastated. Here’s a post of his, what he looked like: https://imgur.com/gallery/1rba2 
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Wolfsheim posted:Always seemed weird to me that the ST took the lily white British villains and made a bunch of them women and minorities Cartoon Man posted:Here’s some hosed up news. Assepoester fucked around with this message at 01:14 on Jul 20, 2023 |
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Robot Style posted:They tried that. I'm one of those morons that enjoyed Solo and that poo poo still cracked me up. Him igniting the lightsaber like "REMEMBER ME NOW? THIS IS MY THING" was just hilarious.
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has anyone posted this yet https://twitter.com/TheFirstOkiro/status/1681840381699272704?s=20
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McCloud posted:has anyone posted this yet He's right!
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McCloud posted:has anyone posted this yet Can't blame him. Rian Johnson squeezed out a huge dook on Finn's character development.
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9drzVGj2RtI
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well why not posted:are you serious Yeah, I would say it's more kid appropriate than most Star Wars films. The violence is slightly more graphic than the current PG-13 standard but it's also treated with more gravity. There's no joyful mass murder like in GOTG2 for example. Even all the Indiana Jones films have far more hosed up stuff in them than Fury Road, and everybody watched them when they were kids.
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I mean, show your kid what you want, but which Indiana Jones movie has a c-section stillbirth in it?
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well why not posted:I mean, show your kid what you want, but which Indiana Jones movie has a c-section stillbirth in it? I don't know why you think that's worse than face melting, heart ripping or rapid skeletonization which gave me nightmares when I was a child. The stillbirth scene is barely comprehensible to a kid. You didn't say anything when somebody posted that they've shown ROTS to their daughter, who found it slightly scary. And ROTS has loving CHILD MURDER commited by the protagonist, which frankly makes the movie very difficult to watch for me.
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the c-section scene is pretty short, there's a few brief shots of little feets and it's fairly quickly overshadowed by
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Assepoester posted:Because The Empire is America and weirdly enough, Disney Star Wars gets that. And now I'm reminded of some relatively recent discussions of Starship Troopers on these forums and how the movie really isn't just about the Nazis, but contemporary liberalism in awfully prescient ways of 'all genders, colours and creeds unite against the bugs' fashion. Hell, the First Order probably should have leaned more into that. Especially with 'psychics' implied to be glorified palm readers.
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McCloud posted:has anyone posted this yet
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Captain Jesus posted:I don't know why you think that's worse than face melting, heart ripping or rapid skeletonization which gave me nightmares when I was a child. The stillbirth scene is barely comprehensible to a kid. I guess it’s not really. They’re both cartoonish in that way. I don’t have a clear idea of when I’d show my kid Fury Road but I’m leaning towards teen. Glad yours enjoyed it. It’s my favourite movie btw.
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Bogus Adventure posted:Can't blame him. Rian Johnson squeezed out a huge dook on Finn's character development.
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Halloween Jack posted:Yeah it's not surprising that an actor doesn't like the movie where hie plays a guy who fails and is kinda irrelevant. I mean, people can fail in interesting and engaging ways that make you want to see how they continue from there on out. That was not how Finn failed.
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