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Horseshoe theory
Mar 7, 2005

Brimruk posted:

Reading more about this r-word he was apparently a proponent of that 'earning to give' bullshit. Some real galaxy brain poo poo to rely on an economic system that accumulates excess value exclusively at the top and then patting yourself on the back for skimming like 10% of that back to the poors. Instead of just...y'know, supporting efforts to make everyone better off by default (meaning you and your buddies just buy like one less yacht a year or something)

SBF admitted to others that he was bullshitting completely about the 'Effective Altruism' veneer, as well, so it's not like he was even doing the bullshit skimming, or intended to.

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Frosted Flake
Sep 13, 2011

Semper Shitpost Ubique

genericnick posted:

Did they? Seems that gorby shot the USSR's economy in the back of the head, then sold off the Warsaw pact for Pizza Hut.

https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=fgm14D1jHUw&pp=ygUTZ29yYmFjaGV2IHBpenphIGh1dA%3D%3D

Brimruk
Jun 5, 2009

In Training posted:

I like that you said retard once and then self censored the 2nd time. Nice technique

didn't even catch that, I'm such a loving r*tard

Marenghi
Oct 16, 2008

Don't trust the liberals,
they will betray you

Frosted Flake posted:

I'm still mad that the Germans betrayed the ideals of communism for bananas (which they could get seasonally) and Levis (which were worse than the jeans they already had).

There's a lesson in the communist citizens wanting to throw away their system for little treats the west enjoyed thanks to imperialism. They built a cotton empire on the backs of slavery and couped south america for american banana companies.

I think there's a streak of national chauvinism of workers in the imperial sphere, who know they may be poorer than the bourgeoisie but they benefit from treats that are only available through the imperialist exploitation of the global south. There's probably a bit of connection as to why racial discrimination against the global south is rife in those ex-commie countries like the Ukraine.

Zodium
Jun 19, 2004

Marenghi posted:

There's a lesson in the communist citizens wanting to throw away their system for little treats the west enjoyed thanks to imperialism. They built a cotton empire on the backs of slavery and couped south america for american banana companies.

I think there's a streak of national chauvinism of workers in the imperial sphere, who know they may be poorer than the bourgeoisie but they benefit from treats that are only available through the imperialist exploitation of the global south. There's probably a bit of connection as to why racial discrimination against the global south is rife in those ex-commie countries like the Ukraine.

that's right

La Louve Rouge
Jun 25, 2017

by Jeffrey of YOSPOS

Pittsburgh Fentanyl Cloud posted:

PNC stands for "Pittsburgh National Corporation"

Pittsburgh Nentanyl Cloud

Vox Nihili
May 28, 2008

Marenghi posted:

There's a lesson in the communist citizens wanting to throw away their system for little treats the west enjoyed thanks to imperialism. They built a cotton empire on the backs of slavery and couped south america for american banana companies.

I think there's a streak of national chauvinism of workers in the imperial sphere, who know they may be poorer than the bourgeoisie but they benefit from treats that are only available through the imperialist exploitation of the global south. There's probably a bit of connection as to why racial discrimination against the global south is rife in those ex-commie countries like the Ukraine.

Where did they import tea from in the USSR?

Vox Nihili
May 28, 2008

Vox Nihili posted:

Where did they import tea from in the USSR?

I found a brief snippet on the tea trade between China and the USSR circa 1940

OhFunny
Jun 26, 2013

EXTREMELY PISSED AT THE DNC

Marenghi posted:

There's a lesson in the communist citizens wanting to throw away their system for little treats the west enjoyed thanks to imperialism. They built a cotton empire on the backs of slavery and couped south america for american banana companies.

I think there's a streak of national chauvinism of workers in the imperial sphere, who know they may be poorer than the bourgeoisie but they benefit from treats that are only available through the imperialist exploitation of the global south. There's probably a bit of connection as to why racial discrimination against the global south is rife in those ex-commie countries like the Ukraine.

Labor aristocracy is the Marxism term for this.

webcams for christ
Nov 2, 2005

https://twitter.com/business/status/1682490505500794880

funny wsb content incoming

Vox Nihili
May 28, 2008


Went to check in on that and found this instead



The man has never been correct

In Training
Jun 28, 2008

what are APE stocks.

slave to my cravings
Mar 1, 2007

Got my mind on doritos and doritos on my mind.
I assume some r/wsb nft thing

Shear Modulus
Jun 9, 2010



In Training posted:

what are APE stocks.

another scam the AMC ceo invented to get reddit morons to give him money

Third World Reagan
May 19, 2008

Imagine four 'mechs waiting in a queue. Time works the same way.
FTX eugenics bunker nation

Vox Nihili
May 28, 2008

In Training posted:

what are APE stocks.

The APEs are special preferred stock issued by AMC to Antara Capital LP and others as a sneaky way to backdoor into giving them common stock which would dilute the retail apes, but Chancellor Zurn ain't having it!

It's APEs versus apes, simple as that. Or maybe the apes also have APEs. The whole thing is an insane charade.

Frosted Flake
Sep 13, 2011

Semper Shitpost Ubique

Vox Nihili posted:

Where did they import tea from in the USSR?

There was a book on eastern bloc agriculture I have somewhere around here that shows that they were able to grow tea, even kiwis and bananas in parts of the USSR, I think Central Asia, but the Soviets were looking to develop more-or-less equally and so, to their credit, didn't want internal bananas republics. That was a really incredible choice and I wish I could find the book because the politics behind it, it's fascinating. Treating the people of you know, the southern end of the middle of nowhere as workers who deserve development, and so proper development, industrialization, instead of maximizing the output of agricultural commodities that are in demand, that's pretty striking.

There's a similar book about how agonized the Cubans were and are over sugar. Fidel and Che realized that Cuba had been turned into an underdeveloped plantation economy, and how badly that effected workers in the cane fields, the lives it consigned them to. At the same time, until Cuba could develop after the revolution, it was all they had that other countries wanted. Asking workers to go back to the cane fields, where even if the treatment was better, the work itself was the same, was really hard for them. The machinery to make it better required cash, and the cash could only come from continuing to produce sugar in that backbreaking way, albeit in the name of the revolution.

Agrarian History of the Cuban Revolution: Dilemmas of Peripheral Socialism

In Agrarian History of the Cuban Revolution, the Brazilian historian Joana Salém Vasconcelos presents in clear language the complicated challenge of overcoming the condition of Latin America’s underdevelopment through a revolutionary process. Based on diverse historical sources, she demonstrates why the sugar plantation economic structure in Cuba was not entirely changed by the 1959 Revolution.

The author narrates in detail the three dimensions of Cuban agrarian transformation during the decisive 1960s — the land tenure system, the crop regime, and the labour regime —, and its social and political actors. She explains the paths and detours of Cuban agrarian policies, contextualized in a labour-intensive economy that needs desperately to increase productivity and, at the same time, promised widely to emancipate workers from labour exploitation. Cuban agrarian and economic contradictions are well-synthetized with the concept of Peripheral Socialism.

The Cuban Revolution as Socialist Human Development

The book argues that the Cuban Revolution warrants a closer look as a model of socialist human development. A re-reading of the Cuban Revolution from this angle engages unresolved issues in the theory of socialist humanism and the notion of human development popularized by the United Nations Development Programme (i.e., predicated on capitalism). UNDP economists and other agencies of international cooperation for development give a human face to a capitalist development process that is anything but humane. Socialism in Cuba has taken a very different form (socialist human development) than it did elsewhere in the twentieth century. The Cuban Revolution's unique characteristics enabled it to survive adverse conditions - a 'near-perfect storm' - that still threaten its evolution.

tl;dr, Cuba does not get nearly enough credit for its contributions to socialism.

BornAPoorBlkChild
Sep 24, 2012
https://twitter.com/politico/status/1682469738520215552?t=xMNpa3bc5guictMSrpFoNw&s=19

Vox Nihili
May 28, 2008

Frosted Flake posted:

There was a book on eastern bloc agriculture I have somewhere around here that shows that they were able to grow tea, even kiwis and bananas in parts of the USSR, I think Central Asia, but the Soviets were looking to develop more-or-less equally and so, to their credit, didn't want internal bananas republics. That was a really incredible choice and I wish I could find the book because the politics behind it, it's fascinating. Treating the people of you know, the southern end of the middle of nowhere as workers who deserve development, and so proper development, industrialization, instead of maximizing the output of agricultural commodities that are in demand, that's pretty striking.

Yeah it looks like they were able to establish a respectable amount of tea production in Georgia and other locations in the southernmost portions of the USSR, but were also importing a bunch of tea from China and elsewhere as well. There was a concerted effort to produce tea internally, despite less than ideal tea growing conditions.

Vox Nihili
May 28, 2008

Oh yeah the original genesis of the APE preferred stock was that the AMC board and executives wanted to issue more common stock since the online idiots were still buying as much as they could so why not take advantage of endless free money, but the existing common stock shareholders kept voting it down because obviously it would devalue their own shares through dilution. So the AMC insiders perpetuated an obvious fraud against their own shareholders by inventing a brand new type of preferred stock that didn't require common shareholder approval which would eventually convert into common stock at a 10:1 ratio at some point in the future.

Now they're trying to make the conversation happen and the only thing standing in their way is the mythical Delaware Chancery Court for the Rich and Powerful.

Vox Nihili has issued a correction as of 22:18 on Jul 21, 2023

skooma512
Feb 8, 2012

You couldn't grok my race car, but you dug the roadside blur.

Lawmakers will probably move to restrict this activity....against them, gently caress all the rest of y'all lmao.


"The FBI did discuss the search with the U.S. senator but did not directly disclose the violation to the state senator, the bureau official said." :allears: One was important, the other was not.

BornAPoorBlkChild
Sep 24, 2012
https://twitter.com/AP/status/1682112645405589505?t=JJ-JCQFRwuLvHrWuW6-HCA&s=19

Nonsense
Jan 26, 2007

Father Wendigo posted:

Why is everyone talking about bananas all of a sudden?

because somebody is stupid enough to think of bananas as treats.

leftism was defeated soundly in 2016.

Stereotype
Apr 24, 2010

College Slice

Frosted Flake posted:

There was a book on eastern bloc agriculture I have somewhere around here that shows that they were able to grow tea, even kiwis and bananas in parts of the USSR, I think Central Asia, but the Soviets were looking to develop more-or-less equally and so, to their credit, didn't want internal bananas republics. That was a really incredible choice and I wish I could find the book because the politics behind it, it's fascinating. Treating the people of you know, the southern end of the middle of nowhere as workers who deserve development, and so proper development, industrialization, instead of maximizing the output of agricultural commodities that are in demand, that's pretty striking.

There's a similar book about how agonized the Cubans were and are over sugar. Fidel and Che realized that Cuba had been turned into an underdeveloped plantation economy, and how badly that effected workers in the cane fields, the lives it consigned them to. At the same time, until Cuba could develop after the revolution, it was all they had that other countries wanted. Asking workers to go back to the cane fields, where even if the treatment was better, the work itself was the same, was really hard for them. The machinery to make it better required cash, and the cash could only come from continuing to produce sugar in that backbreaking way, albeit in the name of the revolution.

Agrarian History of the Cuban Revolution: Dilemmas of Peripheral Socialism

In Agrarian History of the Cuban Revolution, the Brazilian historian Joana Salém Vasconcelos presents in clear language the complicated challenge of overcoming the condition of Latin America’s underdevelopment through a revolutionary process. Based on diverse historical sources, she demonstrates why the sugar plantation economic structure in Cuba was not entirely changed by the 1959 Revolution.

The author narrates in detail the three dimensions of Cuban agrarian transformation during the decisive 1960s — the land tenure system, the crop regime, and the labour regime —, and its social and political actors. She explains the paths and detours of Cuban agrarian policies, contextualized in a labour-intensive economy that needs desperately to increase productivity and, at the same time, promised widely to emancipate workers from labour exploitation. Cuban agrarian and economic contradictions are well-synthetized with the concept of Peripheral Socialism.

The Cuban Revolution as Socialist Human Development

The book argues that the Cuban Revolution warrants a closer look as a model of socialist human development. A re-reading of the Cuban Revolution from this angle engages unresolved issues in the theory of socialist humanism and the notion of human development popularized by the United Nations Development Programme (i.e., predicated on capitalism). UNDP economists and other agencies of international cooperation for development give a human face to a capitalist development process that is anything but humane. Socialism in Cuba has taken a very different form (socialist human development) than it did elsewhere in the twentieth century. The Cuban Revolution's unique characteristics enabled it to survive adverse conditions - a 'near-perfect storm' - that still threaten its evolution.

tl;dr, Cuba does not get nearly enough credit for its contributions to socialism.

cuba is so much better than the usa

sleep with the vicious
Apr 2, 2010
https://twitter.com/kyliebytes/status/1682433495942168577?t=GqMCFV8KHi4uTR3rRtm1pA&s=19

SlimGoodbody
Oct 20, 2003

https://www.nasdaq.com/articles/elon-musk-says-xai-will-use-public-tweets-for-ai-model-training


quote:

July 14 (Reuters) - Elon Musk on Friday said his new artificial intelligence company, xAI, will use "public tweets" from Twitter to train its AI models

It is March 2035. Another year with unpredictable freak occurrence super-weather, meaning that yesterday's hottest day in history has been followed by its coldest. You pee on the handle of your Tesla Cybertruck to melt the sheet of ice that prevents the thumbprint reader from allowing you access to your vehicle. Sitting in the confoundingly uncomfortable cab, you look at your phone and compare the exchange rates between Dogecoin, Pedobux, and the Kekistani Pinar, which Florida switched to in hopes of enticing Elon to rebuild a gigafactory after the previous one was sucked into a sinkhole.

You decide to liquidate 17.83% of your stake in the 1/600th of the NFT of Pantone #7A490B that you keep in your retirement portfolio to pay the Twitter app fee that starts your Cybertruck. It stings, as the royalties you received whenever anyone used that color was a big part of your rent on the 3/4 size SleepCoffin you can afford to rest in for 5 hours a night. After waiting a couple hours for the transfer and paying the costly conversion fee, you put the change into a long position on 62 pixels of a new Wendy's x McKinley Consulting Group collab NFT - "Civil Rights Leaders As Wendy's Famous Square Burgers". Only the brownish and yellowish pixels, though; the more attractive red and blue pixels are too expensive. Hopefully it does well and the returns can make up for the loss of your Pantone.

After an over-the-air update to the Tesla firmware stalls and fails, you manage to get it finished with a few reboots. You are several hours late to your shift at the Meta moderation sweatshop where you look at horrifying pictures of graphic violence and sexual exploitation to decide which look real (and thus illegal) and which ones were Al generated, and thus okay to stay posted in the Teletubbies Nostalgia group. It pays slightly worse than your second job as a training dummy for genetically engineered police dogs, but the only physically painful part is the harness that keeps you from blinking inside the Oculus Quest you have to wear to work in the digital real estate of the Metaverse Cyberoffice that exists at the same location.

The Cybertruck begins driving you to your shift - one of the half dozen locations you've leased vehicular travel privileges to with Twitter Brown - but you have to hit the emergency brake when its sensors detect a child on the sidewalk and it swerves to strike her at lethal speed. This confuses and angers the proprietary Tesla driving Al, which attempts to verbally respond, but its Twitter language model and Brand Suggestion language model begin fighting as its electronic mind schisms.

The last 13 seconds of your life is a cacophonous mixture of your car saying the n-word to you over and over at maximum volume while also trying to upsell you on a new payment plan for your clothing mortgage. The truck accelerates to maximum speed and bumps the curb with its tire, which naturally causes the vehicle to become instantly consumed by an inescapable, white hot chemical fire. You smile serenely. Yes, the coworkers who have been assigned as your next of kin by Meta will be responsible for the time left on your indenture, but at least it will no longer be your problem.

You are free.

Nothus
Feb 22, 2001

Buglord

Marenghi posted:

There's a lesson in the communist citizens wanting to throw away their system for little treats the west enjoyed thanks to imperialism. They built a cotton empire on the backs of slavery and couped south america for american banana companies.


Is this actually true, or is it spin to cover the fact that the Nomenklatura sold everyone out on the promise of joining the global cybernetic capitalist elite

Stereotype
Apr 24, 2010

College Slice

SlimGoodbody posted:

https://www.nasdaq.com/articles/elon-musk-says-xai-will-use-public-tweets-for-ai-model-training

It is March 2035. Another year with unpredictable freak occurrence super-weather, meaning that yesterday's hottest day in history has been followed by its coldest. You pee on the handle of your Tesla Cybertruck to melt the sheet of ice that prevents the thumbprint reader from allowing you access to your vehicle. Sitting in the confoundingly uncomfortable cab, you look at your phone and compare the exchange rates between Dogecoin, Pedobux, and the Kekistani Pinar, which Florida switched to in hopes of enticing Elon to rebuild a gigafactory after the previous one was sucked into a sinkhole.

You decide to liquidate 17.83% of your stake in the 1/600th of the NFT of Pantone #7A490B that you keep in your retirement portfolio to pay the Twitter app fee that starts your Cybertruck. It stings, as the royalties you received whenever anyone used that color was a big part of your rent on the 3/4 size SleepCoffin you can afford to rest in for 5 hours a night. After waiting a couple hours for the transfer and paying the costly conversion fee, you put the change into a long position on 62 pixels of a new Wendy's x McKinley Consulting Group collab NFT - "Civil Rights Leaders As Wendy's Famous Square Burgers". Only the brownish and yellowish pixels, though; the more attractive red and blue pixels are too expensive. Hopefully it does well and the returns can make up for the loss of your Pantone.

After an over-the-air update to the Tesla firmware stalls and fails, you manage to get it finished with a few reboots. You are several hours late to your shift at the Meta moderation sweatshop where you look at horrifying pictures of graphic violence and sexual exploitation to decide which look real (and thus illegal) and which ones were Al generated, and thus okay to stay posted in the Teletubbies Nostalgia group. It pays slightly worse than your second job as a training dummy for genetically engineered police dogs, but the only physically painful part is the harness that keeps you from blinking inside the Oculus Quest you have to wear to work in the digital real estate of the Metaverse Cyberoffice that exists at the same location.

The Cybertruck begins driving you to your shift - one of the half dozen locations you've leased vehicular travel privileges to with Twitter Brown - but you have to hit the emergency brake when its sensors detect a child on the sidewalk and it swerves to strike her at lethal speed. This confuses and angers the proprietary Tesla driving Al, which attempts to verbally respond, but its Twitter language model and Brand Suggestion language model begin fighting as its electronic mind schisms.

The last 13 seconds of your life is a cacophonous mixture of your car saying the n-word to you over and over at maximum volume while also trying to upsell you on a new payment plan for your clothing mortgage. The truck accelerates to maximum speed and bumps the curb with its tire, which naturally causes the vehicle to become instantly consumed by an inescapable, white hot chemical fire. You smile serenely. Yes, the coworkers who have been assigned as your next of kin by Meta will be responsible for the time left on your indenture, but at least it will no longer be your problem.

You are free.

lmao

Nonsense
Jan 26, 2007

Again, Stalin would fix this.

OBAMNA PHONE
Aug 7, 2002

webcams for christ
Nov 2, 2005

5th Circuit is gonna overturn decades of NLRB case law:

https://twitter.com/reuters/status/1682504637759336450

Nonsense
Jan 26, 2007

A federal appeals court on Friday said it will reconsider its recent decision that Tesla (TSLA.O) Chief Executive Elon Musk violated federal labor law by tweeting that employees would lose stock options if they joined a union.

The 5th U.S. Circuit Court of Appeals in New Orleans granted Tesla's request to revisit the case "en banc," meaning that its 16 active judges will take part.

A three-judge panel of the same court had in March upheld a National Labor Relations Board ruling that Musk's May 20, 2018 tweet was an unlawful threat that could discourage unionization at his electric car company, and must be deleted.

Musk issued the tweet as the United Auto Workers sought to organize employees at Tesla's plant in Fremont, California.

"Nothing stopping Tesla team at our car plant from voting union. Could do so tmrw if they wanted," he wrote. "But why pay union dues & give up stock options for nothing?"

The appeals court panel found "substantial evidence" that the tweet was "an implied threat to end stock options as retaliation for unionization."

In seeking reconsideration, Tesla cited free speech concerns, and said the NLRB ignored that no employees claimed that Musk was threatening them, that Musk did not intend to threaten anyone, and that Musk later clarified his tweet was not a threat.

The NLRB did not immediately respond to requests for comment. Tesla and its lawyers did not immediately respond to similar requests.

A decision is unlikely before 2024.

In Training
Jun 28, 2008

Nonsense posted:


leftism was defeated soundly in 2016.

Lmfao

FUCK COREY PERRY
Apr 19, 2008



Vox Nihili posted:

I dunno but funny/interesting to post ratio is unacceptably low

never stopped me

FUCK COREY PERRY
Apr 19, 2008



Xaris posted:

i choose to consume as most as humanly possible because it is win + feels good. whats the point of living in the imperial core if you aren't maximizing your consumption to fill the atomized n alienated voids that americans feel

for every treat you don't consume, im consuming 3. thank you for your service in making them more affordable to me :patriot:

mmmmm consuming, so good. yum yum

:yeah:

euphronius
Feb 18, 2009


lamo that info is on Wikipedia

webcams for christ
Nov 2, 2005

euphronius posted:

lamo that info is on Wikipedia

how do you think it got there :nsa:

croup coughfield
Apr 8, 2020
Probation
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hes right

Xaris
Jul 25, 2006

Lucky there's a family guy
Lucky there's a man who positively can do
All the things that make us
Laugh and cry
I got bored with leftism in 2016 and gave up on it. decided to become a consumer instead. sorry yall

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croup coughfield
Apr 8, 2020
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no left no more

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