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Mr. Apollo
Nov 8, 2000


Dodge is resurrecting the Stealth name for a 3 row hybrid SUV to replace the Durango. The new Durango will be bigger as it'll be based on the Grand Wagoneer.

https://www.guideautoweb.com/en/articles/71319/dodge-to-revive-stealth-name-for-new-hybrid-suv-report-says/

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Tricky Ed
Aug 18, 2010

It is important to avoid confusion. This is the one that's okay to lick.



:catstare: Nissan Ariya E-4orce

E-4orce

4orce

:psyduck:

Sab669
Sep 24, 2009

No worse of a portmanteau than "4matic"

trouser chili
Mar 27, 2002

Unnngggggghhhhh

dissss posted:

From Reddit



I actually kinda like it

Very quickly someone will come up with a sticker to turn each side into a pair of dicks.

Edit: I'm not original. :dong:

KillHour
Oct 28, 2007


Sab669 posted:

No worse of a portmanteau than "4matic"

It should clearly be 4ce

Fourorce

Wistful of Dollars
Aug 25, 2009

Mr. Apollo posted:

Dodge is resurrecting the Stealth name for a 3 row hybrid SUV to replace the Durango. The new Durango will be bigger as it'll be based on the Grand Wagoneer.

https://www.guideautoweb.com/en/articles/71319/dodge-to-revive-stealth-name-for-new-hybrid-suv-report-says/

Hardly the most stealthy of objects.

euphronius
Feb 18, 2009

I’m renting a brand new CX-50 and it’s a really nice car ? Perfect size. Not to busy inside. I think I want to buy one.

Russian Bear
Dec 26, 2007


euphronius posted:

I’m renting a brand new CX-50 and it’s a really nice car ? Perfect size. Not to busy inside. I think I want to buy one.

I was kind of miffed they are capping the cx5 and replacing it with the cx50, but I saw one in my neighborhood and was like woah that’s a great looking car. Another banger exterior by Mazda.

wesleywillis
Dec 30, 2016

SUCK A MALE CAMEL'S DICK WITH MIRACLE WHIP!!
Looking forward to the new Dodge Omni, Ford Escort and Chevy Chevette small SUVs.

TheMadMilkman
Dec 10, 2007

Safety Dance posted:

How did you get a photograph of me?

Game recognizes game.

KakerMix
Apr 8, 2004

8.2 M.P.G.
:byetankie:

Mr. Apollo posted:

Dodge is resurrecting the Stealth name for a 3 row hybrid SUV to replace the Durango. The new Durango will be bigger as it'll be based on the Grand Wagoneer.

https://www.guideautoweb.com/en/articles/71319/dodge-to-revive-stealth-name-for-new-hybrid-suv-report-says/

Is this one also going to be a Mitsubishi?

Maybe a rebadged Eclipse Cross????

Guinness
Sep 15, 2004

Russian Bear posted:

Another banger exterior by Mazda.

The real banger is on the inside

Physical buttons and dials, cohesive design and ergonomics, not overly complicated with ten bajillion drive modes that don’t matter

Fellatio del Toro
Mar 21, 2009

ngl for a bit I wondered why Mercedes was bragging about a 4 speed automatic

SlowBloke
Aug 14, 2017

Wistful of Dollars posted:

Hardly the most stealthy of objects.

Given the increasing size, the reference point is naval. I feel like the RCS is maybe FREMM grade.

Sab669
Sep 24, 2009

KillHour posted:

It should clearly be 4ce

Fourorce

I mean in theory I can see why "4ce" seems like the logical choice, but I think people would just read it as "four-C-E" instead of "Force".

MrLogan
Feb 4, 2004

Ask me about Derek Carr's stolen MVP awards, those dastardly refs, and, oh yeah, having the absolute worst fucking gimmick in The Football Funhouse.
I really like the interior of the Ariya, but it's about 50% more expensive than it should be. The captative buttons integrated into the wood grain is something everyone should steal.

ilkhan
Oct 7, 2004

I LOVE Musk and his pro-first-amendment ways. X is the future.

Sab669 posted:

I mean in theory I can see why "4ce" seems like the logical choice, but I think people would just read it as "four-C-E" instead of "Force".
How is that any worse than actually having it pronounced four-orce?

Olympic Mathlete
Feb 25, 2011

:h:


https://twitter.com/garygastelu/status/1682191166425399296?t=CihkZTS-j1AyWmtFtLl65A&s=19

ThinkFear
Sep 15, 2007

At least it's thematically consistent with the Flavor Flav rear end speedos they've had since BMW bought mini.

Jymmybob
Jun 26, 2000

Grimey Drawer
That guy seems pretty whiny about how it's not space efficient but it's surrounded by empty space and high enough that the driver doesn't have to look down, much like Mazdas' screen position. I at least appreciate the extra time and effort to make it part of the car's personality and style. Same with Tesla, I weirdly enough don't mind because garbage minimalist techbro interiors are part of their identity, but Polestar/MachE and the others aping them are worth derision.

Nohearum
Nov 2, 2013
This morning I discovered that the new Civic hatch is basically a modern Saab 9-3 hatch and it's starting to grow on me.

Twerk from Home
Jan 17, 2009

This avatar brought to you by the 'save our dead gay forums' foundation.

Nohearum posted:

This morning I discovered that the new Civic hatch is basically a modern Saab 9-3 hatch and it's starting to grow on me.

There's no hybrid, and I'm nervously anticipating that when Honda does introduce a Civic Hybrid, they're going to duplicate what they did with the Accord and piss off about half of potential buyers. With the updated Accord, you cannot get a base trim with the hybrid engine, and you cannot get a nice trim without the hybrid. It sucks, but Honda has been doing poo poo like this for ages, part of the reason the Civic failed our last round of car buying is that you must get a moonroof to get the turbo engine, and I am a card carrying sunroof hater.

Seriously though, aren't most people buying a top-of-the-line Accord buying it as a poor man's sport sedan alternative? Wouldn't those people like a nice non-hybrid engine like the Accord has? Also, aren't a big chunk of hybrid buyers tightwads wanting the cheapest way to cover 100k miles? What the gently caress, Honda.

KillHour
Oct 28, 2007


Sab669 posted:

I mean in theory I can see why "4ce" seems like the logical choice, but I think people would just read it as "four-C-E" instead of "Force".

Which is exactly why it's terrible

Nohearum
Nov 2, 2013

Twerk from Home posted:

There's no hybrid, and I'm nervously anticipating that when Honda does introduce a Civic Hybrid, they're going to duplicate what they did with the Accord and piss off about half of potential buyers. With the updated Accord, you cannot get a base trim with the hybrid engine, and you cannot get a nice trim without the hybrid. It sucks, but Honda has been doing poo poo like this for ages, part of the reason the Civic failed our last round of car buying is that you must get a moonroof to get the turbo engine, and I am a card carrying sunroof hater.

Seriously though, aren't most people buying a top-of-the-line Accord buying it as a poor man's sport sedan alternative? Wouldn't those people like a nice non-hybrid engine like the Accord has? Also, aren't a big chunk of hybrid buyers tightwads wanting the cheapest way to cover 100k miles? What the gently caress, Honda.

I'm just happy you can get the 6MT with both engines

Failson
Sep 2, 2018
Fun Shoe

Mr. Apollo posted:

Dodge is resurrecting the Stealth name for a 3 row hybrid SUV to replace the Durango. The new Durango will be bigger as it'll be based on the Grand Wagoneer.

https://www.guideautoweb.com/en/articles/71319/dodge-to-revive-stealth-name-for-new-hybrid-suv-report-says/

I have such a weird affection for Chrysler, but I'm continually puzzled how they still exists.

bij
Feb 24, 2007

Mazda needs to show off whatever they are doing to the 2024 Miata. It's apparently getting a facelift with new DRLs and taillights before it gets sent off and reborn as a hybrid.

Eyud
Aug 5, 2006

bij posted:

Mazda needs to show off whatever they are doing to the 2024 Miata. It's apparently getting a facelift with new DRLs and taillights before it gets sent off and reborn as a hybrid.

There are a couple supposed spy shots of it and it's not a huge difference but previous model years have been announced around November, so still probably a while before we hear anything official.

MeruFM
Jul 27, 2010
Will a new hybrid miata still have a manual?

I'm not super tied to manual as it doesn't affect my buying decision outside of sports cars, but the miata loses a lot without it.

There's also talks about just going fully electric https://arstechnica.com/cars/2023/07/the-next-mazda-mx-5-miata-might-be-an-electric-vehicle/?comments=1&comments-page=1

If they can keep it under 2.5k lbs with a 150-200 mile range, I can see it being pretty cool. But again, just loses a bit.

bij
Feb 24, 2007

Eyud posted:

There are a couple supposed spy shots of it and it's not a huge difference but previous model years have been announced around November, so still probably a while before we hear anything official.

Those are way higher quality than the ones I saw, cool. The current Miata is just fine but I like the new headlights way more and doing away with the little strips in the front vents is a positive change.

CAT INTERCEPTOR
Nov 9, 2004

Basically a male Margaret Thatcher

The hell is he going on about, thats flat out awful

mobby_6kl
Aug 9, 2009

by Fluffdaddy

MeruFM posted:

Will a new hybrid miata still have a manual?

I'm not super tied to manual as it doesn't affect my buying decision outside of sports cars, but the miata loses a lot without it.

There's also talks about just going fully electric https://arstechnica.com/cars/2023/07/the-next-mazda-mx-5-miata-might-be-an-electric-vehicle/?comments=1&comments-page=1

If they can keep it under 2.5k lbs with a 150-200 mile range, I can see it being pretty cool. But again, just loses a bit.
If they do a hybrid I'm pretty sure it'll be still a manual, otherwise their HQ would get nuked again.

I don't think a fully EV miata is feasible in the near future, so my guess is they'll do a hybrid for the next major update (not sure if next year is it) and then wait until batteries are light enough to make it work.

YOLOsubmarine
Oct 19, 2004

When asked which Pokemon he evolved into, Kamara pauses.

"Motherfucking, what's that big dragon shit? That orange motherfucker. Charizard."

CAT INTERCEPTOR posted:

The hell is he going on about, thats flat out awful

He’s saying it’s awful but the usual set of complainers-about-tablets are giving it a pass because it’s round and cute and fits the Mini brand.

Eyud
Aug 5, 2006

bij posted:

Those are way higher quality than the ones I saw, cool. The current Miata is just fine but I like the new headlights way more and doing away with the little strips in the front vents is a positive change.

Yeah I think it looks pretty good. If they upgrade the infotainment to the current gen, I’ll be really tempted to upgrade from my 2019. And this time around I’ll do the correct thing and get a red one.

BuckyDoneGun
Nov 30, 2004
fat drunk

YOLOsubmarine posted:

He’s saying it’s awful but the usual set of complainers-about-tablets are giving it a pass because it’s round and cute and fits the Mini brand.

Yeah, that's what he means, but I don't grant his premise. No one's saying that, it's a strawman in his head.

It IS better than if they'd just replaced the traditional round cluster with a square screen, but not by much.

YOLOsubmarine
Oct 19, 2004

When asked which Pokemon he evolved into, Kamara pauses.

"Motherfucking, what's that big dragon shit? That orange motherfucker. Charizard."

BuckyDoneGun posted:

Yeah, that's what he means, but I don't grant his premise. No one's saying that, it's a strawman in his head.

It IS better than if they'd just replaced the traditional round cluster with a square screen, but not by much.

I have no idea what the “car internet” (what does that even mean) thinks and also don’t care about the round tablet, so I think it’s a dumb tweet all around.

dissss
Nov 10, 2007

I'm a terrible forums poster with terrible opinions.

Here's a cat fucking a squid.

mobby_6kl posted:

If they do a hybrid I'm pretty sure it'll be still a manual, otherwise their HQ would get nuked again.

I don't think a fully EV miata is feasible in the near future, so my guess is they'll do a hybrid for the next major update (not sure if next year is it) and then wait until batteries are light enough to make it work.

It'd guess it's going to be the 48v mild hybrid system Mazda uses in their other models. Barely 'electrified' but they have used that label for mild hybrids before.

Inner Light
Jan 2, 2020



I would kill for a 100 mile range electric Miata that’s like $15-20k like a super golf cart, just much less dumb than the current super golf cart products on the market. I don’t care the manufacturers are trying to make it “feasible” to jam in a gigantic battery pack and tons of garbage to pump up the MSRP but now I’m just old man yelling at clouds. I was born too early.

kill me now
Sep 14, 2003

Why's Hank crying?

'CUZ HE JUST GOT DUNKED ON!

ThinkFear posted:

At least it's thematically consistent with the Flavor Flav rear end speedos they've had since BMW bought mini.

I saw a vid or gif yesterday that had the original MINI interior morph into the new interior and it was a nearly 1:1 update of it.

For what it’s worth there are still physical controls for a number of functions and the regular screen looks like it will pretty functional.

Also if you look at the current MINI’s dash, the entire circle being a screen instead of an 8.8” rectangle in the middle of the screen is a way more efficient use of space within the constraints of their corporate design language.

Pr0kjayhawk
Nov 30, 2002

:pervert:Zoom Zoom, motherfuckers:pervert:

euphronius posted:

I’m renting a brand new CX-50 and it’s a really nice car ? Perfect size. Not to busy inside. I think I want to buy one.

I rented one last month and I completely agree. It was fantastic. Only real downside is it gets worse highway mileage than my Quadrifoglio which is a shame. If you’re driving around with a penalty box 4cyl you should at least get phenomenal gas mileage.

Outside of the gas mileage I found myself asking why anyone would need anything more than this.

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Olympic Mathlete
Feb 25, 2011

:h:


Inner Light posted:

I would kill for a 100 mile range electric Miata that’s like $15-20k like a super golf cart, just much less dumb than the current super golf cart products on the market. I don’t care the manufacturers are trying to make it “feasible” to jam in a gigantic battery pack and tons of garbage to pump up the MSRP but now I’m just old man yelling at clouds. I was born too early.

Honestly this is what loving annoys me about EVs, the constant push for range when they're far better an idea for just tootling around doing whatever dumb poo poo jobs you need in daily life. But of course as cars have become more expensive generally they're trying to sell you an EV as your only car and the outliers among us who do more than 50 miles a day are the people the companies are aiming for so range goes up, weight goes up and cost goes up and you end up having to buy much more car than you need. It's so wasteful.

If we're doing EVs as a thing there needs to be more bog-standard stuff available, fun little things to courier yourself around in day to day rather than 2+ ton of battery and mild steel with 400+ miles of battery you don't get anywhere near using the capacity of.

*edit: and before anyone starts, the 'just in case' lot are the reason why the car industry sucks. They sell you what they tell you that you need rather than what you actually do.

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