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euphronius posted:greed is something humans have No. Materialism teaches us that humans become greedy because that is the system in which they live, and the behavior that gets rewarded.
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Jul 23, 2023 01:36
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gradenko_2000 posted:https://twitter.com/ghost_motley/status/1682796531055820805?t=3LnNfwxLqVLwPK2jVk_eJQ&s=19 I feel like this is a slam dunk class action…?
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Jul 23, 2023 01:38
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DiscountDildos posted:There's a new essay coming Monday you might like yes motherfucker NO MORE PRIVATE JETS NO MORE loving DRUG COMMERCIALS NO MORE POSTED PRICES THAT DONT INCLUDE TAXES NO MORE loving GUNS Yes YES THAT IS THE NEXT STEP UP ON THE PATH TO ENLIGHTENMENT YOU SON OF A BITCH ERIK! gently caress YOU oh wait you’re dead lmao
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Jul 23, 2023 01:42
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i am harry posted:I feel like this is a slam dunk class action…? guarantee there’s a clause in the EULA guarding them against this very thing it’s such a stupid move like…why delete the account, who gives a poo poo? you can’t afford the kilobytes in your storage server?
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Jul 23, 2023 01:42
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i am harry posted:I feel like this is a slam dunk class action…? Sorry the end user agreement you clicked "agree" on says we can do anything we want, plus we have mandatory binding arbitration and you opted out of class actions, also we get rights to your dick & balls in perpetuity get used to it bub Also we desperately need more tort reform to cut down on these GREEDY WELFARE QUEEN PLAINTIFFS sucking corporate America dry
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Jul 23, 2023 01:44
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Frosted Flake posted:Peter Brown wrote an entire book about how "Greed is a Sin" caused something akin to a revolution in social relations in the Roman Empire, and while the huge influx of wealth caused by the Roman nobility converting changed Christianity too, you can in fact cause even the richest people in society to think greed is bad and to spend incalculable fortunes building monasteries and caring for the poor and widows. Makes me really want to know what Chinese capitalist ideology is like. What is their relation to all those billiards?
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Jul 23, 2023 01:50
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shrike82 posted:the 'treat' discourse is self-limiting in that people think in terms of literal treats or consumer knick-knacks when probably one of the biggest differentiators is (red) meat consumption P much all modern solutions to this I see are just saying the only ethical red meat is also the expensive kind that means people with money can have as much as they want and those without can’t have any at all. The good options for something like this would either be no one gets it or equal rationing of an incredibly limited but sustainable amount but that’s so far outside the window of discussion it feels sort of pointless to bring it up.
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Jul 23, 2023 01:55
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i'm not vegan and love meat but we could definitely stand to eat less of it, like a nice treat once or twice a week instead of something you eat three loving times a day
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Jul 23, 2023 01:55
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Brimruk posted:guarantee there’s a clause in the EULA guarding them against this very thing google is now doing the same poo poo if you don't log in for two years
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Jul 23, 2023 01:58
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gradenko_2000 posted:No. Materialism teaches us that humans become greedy because that is the system in which they live, and the behavior that gets rewarded. that's right
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Jul 23, 2023 01:58
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greed is a fundamental part of the human condition idk. people can obviously get past it. anyway getting too far away from economics I guess
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Jul 23, 2023 02:00
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Centrist Committee posted:Makes me really want to know what Chinese capitalist ideology is like. What is their relation to all those billiards? I think the handbook to capitalism and religion has chapters on Confucianism, Taoism and Buddhism.
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Jul 23, 2023 02:00
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euphronius posted:greed is a fundamental part of the human condition idk. why do you think this?
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Jul 23, 2023 02:01
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The worst materialism is knowing there's tons of cool stuff out there but you're not allowed to have any because you're poor.
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Jul 23, 2023 02:01
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Shipon posted:i'm not vegan and love meat but we could definitely stand to eat less of it, like a nice treat once or twice a week instead of something you eat three loving times a day oh yeah I absolutely agree with this I just mean the perspective you tend to hear along these lines leans ethically raised animals in sustainable big pastures, boo on factory farming, which while incredibly true makes no mention of the idea that most people can’t afford these more premium eco friendly brands as is. It’s a way for the haves to change nothing about their lives while feeling morally superior and scolding the have nots. if we’re going to make a move towards more humane and less environmentally catastrophic meat production (and I agree we should) it needs to come with measures outside of simply pricing out poors. If it’s only sustainable/ethical to average 1 chicken per year per person or whatever then that means everyone should have the option to have that chicken, rather than 364 people simply not having chicken while some rich guy gets 1 a day. PoundSand has issued a correction as of 02:09 on Jul 23, 2023 |
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Jul 23, 2023 02:05
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mawarannahr posted:why do you think this? you don’t think it’s the case ?
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Jul 23, 2023 02:07
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mawarannahr posted:why do you think this? They were arguing the other day that pensions were better than retirement accounts because it’s easier to cheat your spouse out of them in a divorce which aside from being afaik not true is very much a telling on themself and their priorities sort of position. The greed was calling from inside the house all along.
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Jul 23, 2023 02:08
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I never said “cheat”
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Jul 23, 2023 02:10
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people around the world are gonna be pissed if the Industrial Revolution starting in the west means they can't eat kebab/cevapi/bulgogi/biltong/barbacoa/shaslik/churrasco/kokoretsi etc. they might not want to go along with it.
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Jul 23, 2023 02:11
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PoundSand posted:They were arguing the other day that pensions were better than retirement accounts because it’s easier to cheat your spouse out of them in a divorce which aside from being afaik not true is very much a telling on themself and their priorities sort of position. 100% not true in most states (IANAL just someone in the industry) greed is 100% a symptom not a cause (and, like someone earlier said, even if it’s not we as ostensibly beings high on the evolutionary chain should 100% not normalize that poo poo)
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Jul 23, 2023 02:14
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Raskolnikov38 posted:you only get into funny amounts of money if the trees have to replaced oh those trees are gonna die
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Jul 23, 2023 02:16
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euphronius posted:you don’t think it’s the case ? engage with the rest of the thread big dawg
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Jul 23, 2023 02:18
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Centrist Committee posted:engage with the rest of the thread big dawg ok I’m saying that humans experience or have greed or over attachment to things. it’s a fundamental part of being human unless you were like .. idk born enlightened. this does not seem that controversial re the pensions it was an off hand comment from something I misremembered from a decade ago . i am sorry for misremembering that nuance to equitable distributions in PA
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Jul 23, 2023 02:22
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I've mentioned this before, but in much the same way that people under capitalism cannot (usually) envision a world without greed because it's all they have ever known, people under socialism could not envision a world where they wouldn't have free healthcare, free housing, and so on, which is why they may well have thought that obtaining rock and roll and Levis would not cost them socialism.
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Jul 23, 2023 02:24
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maybe we are using different definitions of the word.
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Jul 23, 2023 02:25
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If you're [merely] referring to the emotion of greed, and how you cannot really prevent someone from feeling it, or acting upon that emotion, then yes, it's something that's always going to exist within us. I will grant that I am mostly arguing against the idea that it is such a strong, prevalent, and pervasive emotion, that society needs to be configured around it, and that it precludes certain ways of societal organization from being possible.
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Jul 23, 2023 02:28
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PoundSand posted:P much all modern solutions to this I see are just saying the only ethical red meat is also the expensive kind that means people with money can have as much as they want and those without can’t have any at all. you have to have like, feast days and stuff
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Jul 23, 2023 02:32
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euphronius posted:you don’t think it’s the case ? no, I don't think greed is fundamental to whatever human nature might be, maybe a system of basic affects/emotions or theoretical basic personality structure. i think it can be correlated with a trait, or a facet of a trait, that can emerge under certain social conditions. even in bourgeois psychology, i can't think of any  model of behavior that has greed as a construct, nor any in models of personality based on analyzing language (like big 5 and Cattell). hexaco does touch greed avoidance as a facet of a broader trait of honesty-humility, but the items are like "Prefer to eat at expensive restaurants" and they could have easily given it a different name, so I don't think it's really relevant). imo, the most and phrenological researchers in psychology would be motivated to identify greed as a fundamental attribute of humankind, and I think it's interesting they haven't demonstrated this as part of a multidimensional system.
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Jul 23, 2023 02:34
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Brimruk posted:guarantee there’s a clause in the EULA guarding them against this very thing It's to force you into logging on so you see all the games for sale.
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Jul 23, 2023 02:36
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spotted at my local asian grocery today #inflation #supplychain
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Jul 23, 2023 03:10
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Wraith of J.O.I. posted:spotted at my local asian grocery today #inflation #supplychain I Read the real reason huy fong is expensive is capitalism reasons where they tried to cut out a longtime supplier cause they thought they could get cheaper peppers. they hosed around and found out.
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Jul 23, 2023 03:13
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Wraith of J.O.I. posted:spotted at my local asian grocery today #inflation #supplychain i still cant find any near me. i just get trader joes poo poo now for $2.99 or whatever its cuz of drought conditions in mexico
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Jul 23, 2023 03:14
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sriracha is not good I’ll fight you
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Jul 23, 2023 03:19
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err posted:i still cant find any near me. i just get trader joes poo poo now for $2.99 or whatever I don't care how bad the drought is, $36.99 for a bottle of hot sauce is bullshit gouging and they deserve to have that poo poo shoplifted these are not expensive ingredients in California where it's made or really anywhere
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Jul 23, 2023 03:20
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You should put the sriracha bottle up your rear end  (USER WAS PUT ON PROBATION FOR THIS POST)
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Jul 23, 2023 03:22
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Vox Nihili posted:they deserve to have that poo poo shoplifted
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Jul 23, 2023 03:36
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Wraith of J.O.I. posted:spotted at my local asian grocery today #inflation #supplychain OG Sriracha disappeared from my local shops months ago forcing us to switch to a knockoff which I ended up preferring the taste of. The free market wins again!
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Jul 23, 2023 03:44
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I'm more of a Cholula fan when it comes to mild hot sauces.
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Jul 23, 2023 03:48
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Poppers posted:You should put the sriracha bottle up your rear end questionable shoot imo
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Poppers posted:You should put the sriracha bottle up your rear end please do not put things without flared bases in your butt
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Jul 23, 2023 03:52
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