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Angepain posted:Do you really need a detailed cited mathematical analysis for the radical wild claim of buses being better for emissions per person than cars which cars are you talking about?
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Mourning Due posted:The whole ULEZ thing gives me a sad little LOL, as I've seen it in our local Bromley Facebook group first hand. Had someone try to start poo poo on the main Kent Equestrian group, including claims that it would cost hundreds to take a horse box into the ULEZ (pretty sure that they count as specialist vehicles so have some special rules) and calling the place Londistan She shut up when a few of us kept asking her to explain why she's using the term Londistan.
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NotJustANumber99 posted:which cars are you talking about? Cars m8. Cars. All cars. Even your precious Tesla, which is just a different sort of environmental nightmare. TBH cars are psychopath makers. Drivers turn into selfish atomised pricks behind the wheel, it's bad.
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NotJustANumber99 posted:theres 40k buses in the uk apparently and were trying to get to 4k electric buses. Which is better than I thought to be honest but still, 90% of buses are diesel. I have no idea if this includes like coaches and school buses and all that poo poo. Average age of London bus = 6yrs Typical 2017 bus = Alexander Dennis Enviro 400 Enviro 400 CO2 = 938g/km Enviro 400 capacity = 72 CO2/km/passenger @ max capacity = 13 CO2/km/passenger @ half capacity = 26 CO2/km/passenger @ quarter capacity = 52 Average age of car in the UK = 8 years Typical 2015 diesel car = Volkswagen Golf TDI 2015 VW Golf TDI CO2 = 102g/km 2015 VW Golf TDI capacity = 5 CO2/km/person @ max capacity = 20.4 CO2/km/person w. driver + passenger = 51 CO2/km/person w. driver = 102 So the bus needs to be at just 1/8 capacity (carrying nine people) to match (let alone better) the emissions/person of the car when carrying just the driver, as in 60% of car journeys in London. forkboy84 posted:Cars m8. Cars. All cars. Even your precious Tesla, which is just a different sort of environmental nightmare. But this is much more succinct and just as true. BalloonFish fucked around with this message at 09:12 on Jul 23, 2023 |
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Who the gently caress wants to drive in London. loving awful place. The only thing of value was Twisto (always missed).
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haakman posted:Who the gently caress wants to drive in London. loving awful place. The only thing of value was Twisto (always missed). 
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Do you know where the worst place in England is? Wherever you come from! Your part of the country sucks.
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wouldn't mind a couple dozen of those in my Texas municipality tbh probably not a lot of foot room though DJT518T posted:I should do an effort post on the whole ulez/caz thing but as an enthusiast of late 90s or early 2000s fast petrol cars it's a bit of a downer. i'm familiar with a chunk of the policy stuff on related topics in the US but not particularly a car person even in the US, i'm honestly not sure i'm following the dialogue enough never mind good effortposts would read, is what i'm sayin' Goatse James Bond fucked around with this message at 09:57 on Jul 23, 2023 |
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Sick af Man I wish I had an airbrush, but I worry about breathing in the paint in the air from using it in my tiny flat.
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notaspy posted:Do you know where the worst place in England is? Wherever you come from! But no for real london is the worst by a mile
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Skarsnik posted:But no for real london is the worst by a mile I'm going down to London on Friday, and I already can't wait to leave.
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My London hell story. CW suicide. My wife's best friend threw herself from a 4th story balcony in Tottenham due to rent arrears of 2 months - was diagnosed with various things - she was unable to work and was in the system. It waspainfully obvious this woman was in a mental health crisis, if her landlord had even the slightest desire to see her as a human being. Landlord didn't care and took her to court straight away to evict her. Builders working on a block of flats opposite filmed the whole thing and were cheering. We had to clear out her flat and on the day she jumped the management company were up at the door asking when we'd have the flat cleared as they wanted to re-let. No sympathy whatsoever until I threatened to do the usual paper/social media thing, whereupon they gave us some boxes and kindly gave us 3 days...they still insisted we pay for parking on the estate. She was Haitian/American, had no family here and her brother had to fly from the USA to deal with her affairs/repatriate her body. 3 days. Tried to take her stuff to a charity shop, explained circumstances - sorry, we only take 1 box. Queue me driving round London finding charity shops to take singular boxes of clothes/the detritus of an entire 40yr old's life. Picked up some fine for emissions/congestion or something whilst doing it. All of this for £2,000 worth of rent. haakman fucked around with this message at 10:20 on Jul 23, 2023 |
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BalloonFish posted:Average age of London bus = 6yrs This is all great maths and also the fact that so many people are making car journeys in London = reduces overall efficiency for everyone (more time in traffic etc). The only automobiles in London should be buses, essential services, deliveries and those driven by or for the disabled.
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It reminds me of something I've often wondered - why do taxis get to use bus lanes?
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haakman posted:My London hell story. CW suicide. Wtf they filmed and cheered the death? That’s horrific
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Sir Sidney Poitier posted:It reminds me of something I've often wondered - why do taxis get to use bus lanes? Think there were a few reasons but one of them is that unlike private hires, you can flag down a cab (so they provide a kind of roving car share service). They’re also all accessible (so eg if a disabled person is unable to book a private hire).
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Getting the bus during lockdown was weird. Firstly, there weren't many people on the buses. Secondly, the lack of traffic meant the buses spent a load of time just idling at stops, so they could maintain their timetable. So the lack of traffic didn't really speed up journeys in any meaningful way.
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kingturnip posted:Getting the bus during lockdown was weird. Firstly, there weren't many people on the buses. Secondly, the lack of traffic meant the buses spent a load of time just idling at stops, so they could maintain their timetable. Bus schedule planning is based on prediction of traffic. If half the traffic were to disappear, you’d have different schedules (and likely both more frequent buses and wider bus coverage). And at least when paused a stop atm, bus engines tend to be turned off. Not so in slow-moving traffic.
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I think you’ll find living in London is loving amazing, it’s full of lovely green space and lots of cool things to do, and it’s actually the other towns and cities of the UK that suck. The countryside’s alright to visit, full of racists though.
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Skarsnik posted:But no for real london is the worst by a mile Never been to Bournemouth huh
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Scientastic posted:I think you’ll find living in London is loving amazing, it’s full of lovely green space and lots of cool things to do, and it’s actually the other towns and cities of the UK that suck. If London is poo poo it's because Londoners have this attitude to other cities. I moved from London to Liverpool ten years ago and its been an amazing choice.
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A small, pathetic part of me laughs internally every time I hear or read the acronym ULEZ
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Liz Truss went to Darren Grimes birthday party. The Lettuce - Dogshit media industrial complex https://twitter.com/peterjukes/status/1683054992071041026?s=46&t=m_nNbkNoHG4lLitcpyHReg
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Failed Imagineer posted:A small, pathetic part of me laughs internally every time I hear or read the acronym ULEZ It's the gay agenda.
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Oh cool, London bashing in the thread again, how original. Really helping your image as tedious jealous stereotypes, further exacerbating regional hatreds when we should be working together. Seven of the ten areas with the highest share for Remain were in London, it has gigs galore, fantastic museums, good restaurants, job opportunities etc. I have never, ever gone to or lived in another part of the country and slagged off the people and surrounding area. I've liked them all, for different reasons. But guess what? Every time people ask me where I live and I say London they've got an opinion they can't help but share, as if I've laid down a challenge lmao. What the do you guys outside the M25 think we do? Spend our free time judging you? London is far from a perfect city. But as far as cities go, it's easily one of the better ones I've lived in, sorry it ain't for you.
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frytechnician posted:Oh cool, London bashing in the thread again, how original. Really helping your image as tedious jealous stereotypes, further exacerbating regional hatreds when we should be working together. most conciliatory london resident
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atal posted:most conciliatory london resident What can I say, London owns. Other cities do too, it's not exclusive. But as I said, the competitive nature I've experienced in other regions and cities is absolutely off the charts. Chill - just because I live in London doesn't mean I hate your town, you nutjob.
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London isn't the worst city in the UK but as a capital city of 10 million and the shining symbol of England, and given all the money and media attention it gets, you'd think it would be a lot better.
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London is great except for the price of everything and the fact that politics and journalism are centered there so it's a blackhole that tries to suck up everything (budgets, talented people, etc.) from the rest of the country. London would be improved massively if the government just wasn't there anymore and there was any effort to do centralise all the things that make London great (parks, museums, "culture") It unfortunately suffers from being in the UK so NHS waiting lists, homelessness, etc. are still way too high, but as far as I can tell there isn't a single place in the UK that isn't in the UK anyway so it's a moot point.
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It's probably top 5 among English cities but have you seen some of the competition?
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Failed Imagineer posted:A small, pathetic part of me laughs internally every time I hear or read the acronym ULEZ Favourite headline of the past tear was 'Tories start last minute bid to stop the Glasgow LEZ'. SHE CAN'T BE STOPPED SHE'S UNGOVERNABLE
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Miftan posted:London is great except for the price of everything and the fact that politics and journalism are centered there so it's a blackhole that tries to suck up everything (budgets, talented people, etc.) from the rest of the country. London would be improved massively if the government just wasn't there anymore and there was any effort to do centralise all the things that make London great (parks, museums, "culture") yeah it's a cool city and i like living here but i'm certainly not going to be upset or take it personally when people get mad about the above reasons
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keep punching joe posted:Favourite headline of the past tear was 'Tories start last minute bid to stop the Glasgow LEZ'. I'm pretty sure Sturgeon is straight but just prefers a short haircut
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I enjoy London, but that's because i - don't rent - don't have a car - have disposable income I imagine you only have to tick 1 of those boxes for London to become poo poo and RIP if you tick 2
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