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Jack Trades
Nov 30, 2010
Probation
Can't post for 11 years!

Dirk Pitt posted:

I was talking to my girlfriend and it is a bit hosed up that people are paying 5.6% or whatever rate, while our normal savings account is 2%. Where is the rest of that money going?

Refilling the coke buckets.

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teen witch
Oct 9, 2012

Jack Trades posted:

Refilling the coke buckets.

Hope they don’t share the buckets or it’s minimum six months

Groda
Mar 17, 2005

Hair Elf

Dirk Pitt posted:

https://www.dn.se/ekonomi/finansministern-jag-har-ringt-bankerna/

Never thought I'd see a blue government tell the banks to maybe give something back. I was talking to my girlfriend and it is a bit hosed up that people are paying 5.6% or whatever rate, while our normal savings account is 2%. Where is the rest of that money going?

Banks would have to be the easiest possible industry to extort, what with never having föremånsbeskattning on the 0 % mortgages they've been giving their employees forever, for no goddamn reason.

SplitSoul
Dec 31, 2000

BonHair posted:

or just have a 20 year life expectancy

I have good news and bad news.

Jack Trades
Nov 30, 2010
Probation
Can't post for 11 years!
https://www.gp.se/nyheter/g%C3%B6te...ger-1.105127382

quote:

Ungdomar på Styrsö kastade sten mot ukrainska flyktingbarn på sommarläger

Göteborg I helgen påbörjades ett sommarläger för ukrainska flyktingbarn på Styrsö. Målet är att de i tio dagar ska få tid att rehabilitera sig och bearbeta sina upplevelser från kriget. Men den andra dagen kom ett tiotal ungdomar körandes på mopeder. De kastade sten och ropade ”åk hem” på ryska.

Sommarlägret, som är ett initiativ från organisationen Help Ukraine Gothenburg, inleddes i helgen på Styrsö i Södra skärgården. Under tio dagar ska ukrainska flyktingbarn få tid för återhämtning i form av terapeutiska aktiviteter, lekar och workshops.

Men under lägrets andra dag ska ett tiotal ungdomar valt att göra vad de kunde för att förpesta tillvaron för barnen. Vid ett flertal tillfällen ska de närmat sig och ropat ”åk hem till Ukraina” på ryska.

– Sista gången vid 00-tiden var de där och kastade stenar på fönstret. Då gick två pedagoger ut som är från Ukraina och försökte samtala men de fick samma svar. Tjejerna hade med sig telefonerna och sa att de skulle filma och sen polisanmäla, säger Katja Blank, grundare av Help Ukraine Gothenburg.

Bromskloss i processen

Enligt Katja Blank så pågick verbala påhopp under dagen men det var under den sista händelsen som det kastades stenar.

– Vi har sett att det är en stor mening med att barn får åka utomlands under en viss period för att få vila ut och andas in en ny luft och inte avbrytas av flyglarmet hela tiden. Det betyder mycket att få andrum och det är det som har blivit stört i det här momentet, säger Katja Blank.

Barnen på lägret är mellan 9–14 år och första gången de blev verbalt påhoppade var de ute och lekte.

– Det är tråkigt för man försöker komma nära och skapa en trygg plats och visa att det finns massa kärlek runt omkring. Men det har gått bra, vi haft långa samtal både om rädslor och att de är skyddade. Barn repar sig. Det är mest en bromskloss i vår process till att hitta det här lugnet, säger Katja Blank.

Identifierade ungdomarna

Enligt Katja Blank var ungdomarna maskerade men med hjälp av bilderna som pedagogerna tog kunde ungdomarna identifieras.

– På ön finns det en hel del äldre damer och herrar som ställde upp som volontärer. På morgonen kunde de snabbt identifiera dessa pojkar som var i närheten. Man valde senare att kontakta föräldrarna och gick ut med information om att detta har hänt. Sen gjorde man en polisanmälan på det, säger Katja Blank.

Fotbollsföreningen Styrsö BK hjälper till på lägret med volontärer som bland annat handlar mat åt deltagarna. På sin Facebooksida tar de kraftigt avstånd från agerandet och kallar det för avskyvärt.

”Att ett fåtal tar sig rätten att bete sig som grottmänniskor skvätter givetvis även på de flertalet ungdomar som sköter sig”, skriver föreningen.

Christer Carlsson är en av volontärerna. Efter händelsen har han och andra volontärer gått till lägret och bett om ursäkt för ungdomarnas agerande.

– Vi gick ner och pratade med dem och så satt vi där och skämdes. Det kändes skit och det blir omvänt att de som vi skulle hjälpa fick ägna sig åt att trösta oss. Det var våra egna ungdomar som gjorde det, det var Styrsökillar.

Hur vet du det?

– Det var bara att titta på filmen.


Polisanmälde

Nu vill volontärerna säkerställa att de ukrainska barnen får det lugnt framöver.

– Vi är nere varje kväll, vi har satt vakter och går runt vid huset och har koll på om mopederna är runt och kör. Ingenting har hänt efter i lördags, säger Christer Carlsson.

Då ungdomarna gick att identifiera har volontärerna anordnat ett möte med dem på torsdag. Volontärerna har även polisanmält händelsen.


– Vi har ringt och polisanmält men hur den anmälan ser ut, det vet jag inte riktigt. Vi hoppas att polisen kommer ut och hjälper oss lite och snackar med ungdomarna.

Utredningen nerlagd

Victor Björnerås är gruppchef för utredarna på polisen. Enligt honom lades utredningen ner ganska omgående.

– Det lades ner av polisens kontaktcenters förundersökningsledare så det nådde aldrig oss då det saknas spaningsuppslag. Vi har inga uppgifter på vilka det kan vara som ligger bakom och så kom anmälan in så pass sent, säger han.

Enligt de jag pratat med finns det bilder, är det något som ni tagit del av?

– Det är ingenting som vi fått. Men vad man kan göra om en utredning läggs ner så kan man ju höra av sig och berätta att man har bilder så kan man ta upp ärendet igen.


Cops are a loving joke.
I guess they were too busy chasing teens that smelled vaguely of weed to do anything useful instead.

Placeholder
Sep 24, 2008
The report "arrived late"? What the gently caress does that even mean? Is the statute of limitations measured in hours for this kind of harassment? I guess whatever administrator that handled the report got the assignment late in the afternoon and just went "meh" and immediately shut down the investigation in order to leave early.

BigglesSWE
Dec 2, 2014

How 'bout them hawks news huh!
No property damaged? No precious money wasted? Bin it! We only care about murders because they remove potential customers!

Revelation 2-13
May 13, 2010

Pillbug
In Denmark all the politicians are falling over each other to say how we should all start saving for our old age, because the state won’t be able to care for us, bur we’ve basically never had more money in Denmark than we do right now? The economy has completely recovered from the doubleslam of Covid and Putin, except for some slight lagging inflation. The various demographic challenges are increasing but current our 20 year path looking extremely promising, even if it all hinges on gradually delaying retirement age.

V. Illych L.
Apr 11, 2008

ASK ME ABOUT LUMBER

the amount of resources the state is able to marshal decreases as its tax base becomes ever more concentrated on wealthy companies and individuals which are intensely mobile. additionally, investment will tend to dry up quickly as political risk increases if the state tries to do anything about this. i don't think that the trajectory is wrong; the scandinavian welfare societies seems quite doomed in the medium-long term. this stuff, however, is probably also an attempt at preparing public opinion for some incredibly unpopular retirement reforms.

the big post-war generation is well into retiring en masse now anyway and are eventually going to start dying off in serious numbers. we're a ways into the demographic squeeze here. it's going to get a little more unbalanced, but immigration is probably going to compensate for a fair amount of it. the main thing imo is the increasing share of the economy controlled by entities which can trivially just up and leave if they don't like the conditions, i.e. if the state tries to recouperate significant value from them

Jack Trades
Nov 30, 2010
Probation
Can't post for 11 years!
We could look at the French for inspiration on a few things.

Potrzebie
Apr 6, 2010

I may not know what I'm talking about, but I sure love cops! ^^ Boy, but that boot is just yummy!
Lipstick Apathy

BigglesSWE posted:

No property damaged? No precious money wasted? Bin it! We only care about murders because they remove potential customers!

Also only good fascist youth throwing rocks, not like the only real danger: civil disobedience.

TLM3101
Sep 8, 2010



So, considering that the third Statsråd from the current government here in Norway just got done for not recusing themselves/doing shady poo poo, I think this just got really, really relevant again:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ENXXRCkJVNw

( For those keeping score, that's three people getting caught out doing unethical stuff, and two now out of government. )

V. Illych L.
Apr 11, 2008

ASK ME ABOUT LUMBER

if nothing new comes out about brenna i think she survives on having self-reported on her case and it apparently being a one-off. it's much easier to excuse one lapse of judgement, especially in appointment processes which are often a little grey, than systematic arrogance of the trettebergstuen variety or straight-up insider trading

what gets me about trettebergstuen and borten moe is that what they were doing is not especially difficult to do while maintaining plausible deniability. they just didn't bother with keeping even a finger's length between themselves and the incredibly dodgy decisions they were making, which indicates that they sincerely believed that they weren't doing anything wrong or even reproachable. that in turn indicates that there's a pretty deep cultural affliction in our political class, especially taken on top of the reiseregning-affair and the commuter residence affair. this is the sort of thing about which rødt would normally make hay, but bjørnar moxnes just completely torpedoed any possibility of doing that

Jack Trades
Nov 30, 2010
Probation
Can't post for 11 years!
https://sverigesradio.se/artikel/bageri-vagrade-gora-samkonad-brollopstarta-dalig-kansla-i-magen

I wish we would stop importing every single moronic thing from the states (but I repeat myself).

thotsky
Jun 7, 2005

hot to trot
One of the most annoying things is the spread of gender reveal parties. Setting aside the conservative gender essentialism at the heart of it, it's just so loving gauche.

lilljonas
May 6, 2007

We got crabs? We got crabs!

thotsky posted:

One of the most annoying things is the spread of gender reveal parties. Setting aside the conservative gender essentialism at the heart of it, it's just so loving gauche.

At least baby shower parties didn’t stuck (at least I haven’t heard of any lately) so I hope gender reveal parties won’t either.

BonHair
Apr 28, 2007

lilljonas posted:

At least baby shower parties didn’t stuck (at least I haven’t heard of any lately) so I hope gender reveal parties won’t either.

My wife was at one half a year ago. I think they're still going, and still bad. I haven't been near gender reveal parties myself, but that's probably more to do with my social circle than anything.

Groke
Jul 27, 2007
New Adventures In Mom Strength

thotsky posted:

One of the most annoying things is the spread of gender reveal parties. Setting aside the conservative gender essentialism at the heart of it, it's just so loving gauche.

Yah, they are the stupidest loving thing.

teen witch
Oct 9, 2012


Not even in office for a year. Oof, Ulf.

V. Illych L.
Apr 11, 2008

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RIP moxnes, thought of sunglasses and died

Alhazred
Feb 16, 2011




Ett imponerende selvmål på alle mulige måter.

Beeswax
Dec 29, 2005

Grimey Drawer
Edit: too snippy

Please explain stuff, don’t just vaguepost about national news that the rest of us have no idea about

Beeswax fucked around with this message at 10:28 on Jul 24, 2023

Megamissen
Jul 19, 2022

any post can be a kannapost
if you want it to be

Beeswax posted:

Edit: too snippy

Please explain stuff, don’t just vaguepost about national news that the rest of us have no idea about

there were some posts about it earlier, the leader of rödt stole a pair of sunglasses at an airport and has now resigned it seems

Beeswax
Dec 29, 2005

Grimey Drawer
Thanks for the explanation! And RIP. Should've learned that you need to steal stuff in the abstract, not tangible objects that people can pin on you.

Alhazred
Feb 16, 2011




Megamissen posted:

there were some posts about it earlier, the leader of rödt stole a pair of sunglasses at an airport and has now resigned it seems

The important thing is that he kept lying about it, even to his own party.

THE BAR
Oct 20, 2011

You know what might look better on your nose?

But you're supposed to double down forever, until the lie becomes truth?

big scary monsters
Sep 2, 2011

-~Skullwave~-
Going to need a picture of him wearing the sunglasses in question before I can render judgement.

TLM3101
Sep 8, 2010



V. Illych L. posted:

RIP moxnes, thought of sunglasses and died

As god drat stupid as it is, at least he did the sane thing and stepped down so Martinussen could take over before election-season gets into gear. So, we should be thankful for small mercies, I guess.

Jon Pod Van Damm
Apr 6, 2009

THE POSSESSION OF WEALTH IS IN AND OF ITSELF A SIGN OF POOR VIRTUE. AS SUCH:
1 NEVER TRUST ANY RICH PERSON.
2 NEVER HIRE ANY RICH PERSON.
BY RULE 1, IT IS APPROPRIATE TO PRESUME THAT ALL DEGREES AND CREDENTIALS HELD BY A WEALTHY PERSON ARE FRAUDULENT. THIS JUSTIFIES RULE 2--RULE 1 NEEDS NO JUSTIFIC



Sunglassestriangular.

V. Illych L.
Apr 11, 2008

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yeah it was a complete meltdown where he kept changing the story. it's very strange, because he's traditionally been very, very good at press management - i think he might genuinely just have panicked and started flailing once the story became a story

TLM3101
Sep 8, 2010



V. Illych L. posted:

yeah it was a complete meltdown where he kept changing the story. it's very strange, because he's traditionally been very, very good at press management - i think he might genuinely just have panicked and started flailing once the story became a story

Honestly, this is why I actually kind of believe him when he says that he wasn't thinking and panicked, because it's all so god drat stupid, and we know he's better at handling press-related matters.

Doesn't changed the fact that he lifted the drat glasses, tho'.

Megamissen
Jul 19, 2022

any post can be a kannapost
if you want it to be

big scary monsters posted:

Going to need a picture of him wearing the sunglasses in question before I can render judgement.

V. Illych L.
Apr 11, 2008

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iirc they're incredibly boring 1500kr airport sunglasses. aviator-ish.

BonHair
Apr 28, 2007

It's just such a stupid thing to do. Why the gently caress would you steal sunglasses of all things? They're, at best, nice to have, not need to have. Stealing food or other stuff you need if you're poor, sure, I never would see that happen, but he's supposedly able to buy them himself and also under scrutiny from being a public figure.

V. Illych L.
Apr 11, 2008

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yeah it's an insanely bone-headed move. it is worth noting that Rødt has a fairly significant party tax which cuts his wage as a parliamentarian from about a million kroner to around 600 000, but he can still afford sunglasses.

the sunglasses being a silly (brand-name!) luxury item and the fact that he didn't realise that the press knew practically everything from the start and so got chased from lie to lie trying to live it down meant that he was seriously compromised by the end of it - and, worse, that he'd gotten the whole party to vouch for him on what turned out to be incorrect grounds. when he finally resigned, i don't think anyone in the party thought it was an unreasonable decision even if very few people really thought that the affair itself was worth a vote of no confidence. it's a sword to fall on, not one which gets wielded against the guy who basically created the party as it exists today

Wibla
Feb 16, 2011

It's not the crime, but the cover up...

Moxnes more or less singlehandedly (re?)built Rødt, I'm curios how this is going to work out.

ulvir
Jan 2, 2005

seems like it’ll work out nicely, they’ve got one of the few non-dipshits as a current party leader, and nobody wants to challenge her on it

Government Handjob
Nov 1, 2004

Gudbrandsglasnost
College Slice
Martinussen will probably do a good job. She's good with numbers, has a quick wit and a sharp tongue and a pretty good sense of humor (she is from Finnmark after all).

I hope to see Sofia Rana on Stortinget some day, if only to watch the fascists absolutely lose their poo poo.

Groke
Jul 27, 2007
New Adventures In Mom Strength
Yeah... individual petty theft of luxury items is not the way to bring down capitalism. smdh

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SplitSoul
Dec 31, 2000

Thought the thread could use a good laugh.

https://www.dr.dk/nyheder/politik/klimaordfoerere-kraever-oejeblikkelig-handling-ovenpaa-julis-ekstreme-vejr

quote:

Enhedslisten og Radikale savner den krisebevidsthed, regeringer på tværs af landegrænser havde under corona-pandemien.

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