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Thread reminded me that I unlocked new SU with me hitting 65. Auto'd 7-4 like it was nothing, always go Preservation.
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I can full auto every world on difficulty 3, but that's because Gepard and Luocha are cheat codes. Looking forward to try it again in 3 weeks when I get to 65.
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Jul 30, 2023 15:21
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Walla posted:I can full auto every world on difficulty 3, but that's because Gepard and Luocha are cheat codes. Looking forward to try it again in 3 weeks when I get to 65. I auto every level and it's fine. moc is the only place i have to pay attention (so I just don't try)
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Jul 30, 2023 15:30
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What's the best paths for SU? Sites say the Hunt mostly.
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Jul 30, 2023 16:17
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As a Jing Yuan haver I typically go elation and then auto battle everything I also start blessing because it seems like there's only a few curios you can start with and they're all kinda meh
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Jul 30, 2023 16:22
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Always curio. Blue cheese or Shattered Star Bait are both nuts.
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Jul 30, 2023 16:25
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Violet_Sky posted:What's the best paths for SU? Sites say the Hunt mostly. - Hunt is good if you have strong DPS for it to multiply the damage of, maybe less good if you're going in underlevelled? - Nihility can solo-DPS most of the bosses even if you have weak characters, but you have to go deep on it. I've seen people speak well of Preservation as both good damage and survivability. Remembrance can stunlock bosses but that's probably worse than just killing them? Abundance's cleanse will carry you through Kafka (World 5) but is less useful elsewhere. Elation is bad unless your carry is built around follow-ups or you get the 3* blessing that makes it also affect your ultimates (at which point it's really just a big DPS boost, so why not pick Hunt and not have to roll the dice on getting that blessing?), Destruction is just uninspiring but maybe someone has made it work somehow.
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Jul 30, 2023 16:27
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Hunt is the most straight forward but it all depends on party composition. If you have a energy neutral party and have a character like Seele then yeah its very powerful but destruction at low health provides more relative damage and protection. Abundance makes your party essentially immortal so you can pretty much clear any SU with any team as long as you dont mind going slow. I love clara elation hybrid setups, wish we had a physical harmony character that synergized harder with follow up attacks.Jabor posted:Elation is bad unless your carry is built around follow-ups or you get the 3* blessing that makes it also affect your ultimates (at which point it's really just a big DPS boost, so why not pick Hunt and not have to roll the dice on getting that blessing?), Destruction is just uninspiring but maybe someone has made it work somehow. Elation is silly if you get it rolling right. Imagine having clara hit for like 300k counter attacking but she does it like 3 times because the boss and his trash keep slamming into her
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Jul 30, 2023 16:31
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I don't know about best, but my favorite is Nihility. I always try to get the weakness break related ones. Especially Hell is Other People, it's funny to stack a bunch of weakness break effects on all the enemies.
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Jul 30, 2023 16:39
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Hunt is great if you're underleveled. I can auto the Deer with Hunt but not Remembrance.
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Jul 30, 2023 16:54
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Destruction remains by far the weirdest element
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Jul 30, 2023 16:56
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One of these days I will do an Arlan solo on Gepard.
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Jul 30, 2023 17:04
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Jabor posted:- Hunt is good if you have strong DPS for it to multiply the damage of, maybe less good if you're going in underlevelled? Remembrance is another go deep, get fat rewards one where if you get the disassociation multipliers you can do an absolute shitload of damage detonating it - I got my 150 and 300k achievements on an SU remembrance run... in the same battle.
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Jul 30, 2023 17:20
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Remembrance is crazy good if you get the Disassociation blessings. Unless you're in World 6 where things go terribly wrong at the end.
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Jul 30, 2023 17:32
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Cao Ni Ma posted:Hunt is the most straight forward but it all depends on party composition. If you have a energy neutral party and have a character like Seele then yeah its very powerful but destruction at low health provides more relative damage and protection. Abundance makes your party essentially immortal so you can pretty much clear any SU with any team as long as you dont mind going slow. I love clara elation hybrid setups, wish we had a physical harmony character that synergized harder with follow up attacks. I really want to try a Blade, Clara, Hiemko, Luocha party and just go all in on follow ups.
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Jul 30, 2023 17:55
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Meowywitch posted:Destruction remains by far the weirdest element I find it decent for dips, great for, well, Blade and Clara, the destruction hypercarries.
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Jul 30, 2023 19:03
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Ytlaya posted:The final stage of the Luofu Forgotten Hall stuff is *way* harder than everything before it. I had a fairly easy time getting 3* on all the others (first try for all of them), but I just can't do enough damage to the final one, even with all 10 stacks. And the boss + enemies outdamage my Bailu's healing after a while, even with March assisting to help build up the buffs. Yeah I don’t know how the hell you get 3 stars on this I barely made 2. Kafka isn’t too bad but the first boss takes forever even with 10 stacks. One thing I found neat about it was that even with how op Luocha is, Bailu is still better for that first fight with how much damage you need to heal.
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Jul 30, 2023 19:14
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Secret to last stage 6 is to constantly heal/targeted buff your main damage dealer even if it doesn’t need it cause it removes a debuff and gives them 20% damage increase which stacks
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Jul 30, 2023 20:36
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Violet_Sky posted:What's the best paths for SU? Sites say the Hunt mostly. it's destruction
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Jul 30, 2023 22:49
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Zurai posted:I always go curio at the start unless my plan for the run absolutely requires two path resonance blessings (dispel + repeat on the abundance blessing vs Kafka is the main one). There are a bunch of curios that are better the earlier you get them, and several more that can "inform" your build. For example, if you get the fishhook that advances every character's turn as soon as they end their turn, the Hunt blessings that give you bonuses for taking turns without getting hit get a lot better. Yeah, I often go with the "double destructibles" one (which translates to a ton of currency over an entire run if you get it at the beginning) or the "6% every time you're in this type of area" (which is the regular battle area if you get it at the start, and can also translate to a lot of currency provided you don't spend much early). ultrachrist posted:Yeah I don’t know how the hell you get 3 stars on this I barely made 2. Kafka isn’t too bad but the first boss takes forever even with 10 stacks. I can't even beat that stage (can't get past the first part), much less get any stars. I might just need to make my Bailu stronger; I've been coasting on "just okay" relics, but I think she needs more healing output to handle that. But even if she was stronger, I still think I would have run out of time, since I was at <10 rounds remaining with the boss at maybe 2/5 health; I just couldn't do enough damage, even with max stacks of the special buff. Ytlaya fucked around with this message at 22:59 on Jul 30, 2023 |
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Jul 30, 2023 22:57
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destruction has too many awkward ones where they give shields instead of helping damage. Which ends up clashing with Blade mechanics
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GateOfD posted:destruction has too many awkward ones where they give shields instead of helping damage. Which ends up clashing with Blade mechanics Yeah, Destruction should be Blade's best path in SU, but it really isn't that great. Even the 3 star blessing that spreads damage across the party doesn't work that well on him, it doesn't trigger his "take damage" passive. And there's a lot of attack boosts in the blessings, too, which he doesn't care about that much.
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Jul 30, 2023 23:47
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probably going elation for the followup damage to boost his talent, and make his ulitmate count as followup is the simple way to boost him
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Jul 30, 2023 23:50
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I actually had a pretty decent time with this last abyss. I don't count Floor 12 cause it's ridiculous to me with the 3 minutes to kill super tanky enemies approach, but I managed to clear all of Floor 9-11 for the first time in a while. I credit finally having a properly levelled Nahida to take advantage of the bonus and just her performance in general as well as having a more robust Melt team now with being able to manage it all. Even the defend the structure and Chamber 3 stuff was pretty manageable this go around. Also kind of found the 3rd Dance event in the Mirage surprisingly down to the wire. Been a while since it's taken me 3 tries to clear an event stage with all achievements and the 3rd attempt even came pretty down to the wire with me scrambling to cut down the last elite enemy and finishing with 2.5 seconds to spare. Actually kind of needed to time when I was getting the bonus for optimal clearing of the enemies and to make sure I could finish within the 2 and a half minute limit since you need to take out like 60 of them in that span. By comparison I feel like I could have done the flying the Barking Fox thing through rings with one hand and eye open just as readily and same with the Croco cannon one. The shuffleboard one was somewhere in the middle probably, moderate to low skill required but still cleared pretty readily versus no skill for the other non combat ones.
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Thinking about a brighter world where you could do things as simple as make a "melt team" in this game, Honkai Star Rail. Reactions system was the best part of genshin's combat system and they tossed it out and replaced it with the most boringest weakness system ever, big sigh.
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Jul 31, 2023 00:45
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reaction teams are cool conceptually but in reality they mostly just lead to finding the best reactions and cramming those as hard as possible
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Jul 31, 2023 01:27
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"find the highest dps thing and do that all the time" is most games
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The apex of gameplay in genshin impact was the dodoco roller coaster ride. So just build your teams for that.
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Yeah I can't really say I find Genshin's combat too engaging. It does it's job just well enough to not interfere with exploration, but it's just not the game's strong point. Honkai Impact has much better combat if that's your thing and I'm sure Zenless Zone Zero will as well given both games are entirely about combat.
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Kild posted:it's destruction
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Kale posted:I actually had a pretty decent time with this last abyss. I don't count Floor 12 cause it's ridiculous to me with the 3 minutes to kill super tanky enemies approach, but I managed to clear all of Floor 9-11 for the first time in a while. I credit finally having a properly levelled Nahida to take advantage of the bonus and just her performance in general as well as having a more robust Melt team now with being able to manage it all. Even the defend the structure and Chamber 3 stuff was pretty manageable this go around. Also kind of found the 3rd Dance event in the Mirage surprisingly down to the wire. Been a while since it's taken me 3 tries to clear an event stage with all achievements and the 3rd attempt even came pretty down to the wire with me scrambling to cut down the last elite enemy and finishing with 2.5 seconds to spare. Actually kind of needed to time when I was getting the bonus for optimal clearing of the enemies and to make sure I could finish within the 2 and a half minute limit since you need to take out like 60 of them in that span. By comparison I feel like I could have done the flying the Barking Fox thing through rings with one hand and eye open just as readily and same with the Croco cannon one. The shuffleboard one was somewhere in the middle probably, moderate to low skill required but still cleared pretty readily versus no skill for the other non combat ones. I completely posted this in the wrong thread and meant it for the Genshin one. My bad.
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Jul 31, 2023 02:12
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Finally broke my standard banner pity and uh Welt really likes me apparently
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blizzardvizard posted:Finally broke my standard banner pity and uh Now I'm sad that Welt doesn't like me.
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Jul 31, 2023 04:56
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E2 Welt rocks and Dan Heng is his best friend. It's great.
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Izzhov posted:Just use fireblazer I did try that, but fireblazer needed another sustain unit on her side, so I ended up spending 16 turns on the first half, lol. I did get the star for deathless, however!  Walla posted:March 7th is great against those apes if you have the time and resources, and inclination, to build her. She's arguably better than Gepard because she can refresh her shield every turn and can tank better. You still run into the speed tuning problem, and you need to bring a healer as well since not everyone will target March. Well the speed tuning is a bit less of an issue -- you can see the turn order beforehand, you know who will be spending skillpoints, so you shield that one. It still doesn't solve the skillpoint issue though. After bringing Welt I also realized another benefit to March (and Welt) against ape -- their ults have hard CC, so you can use it to interrupt the roar + leap combo and delay the leap attack by ulting right after the turn with the roar. I was inspired by your setup and ended up bringing Luocha + Welt against ape. I ended up just spending skills as normal, and save Luocha and Welt ults for his leap combo, if not already broken. Basically wait for his roar, and either Luocha ult right after (to purge the attack buff), or Welt ult (to interrupt and prevent the leap move, and pray that it lands). It also meant my second half was Gepard - Pela - SW - Qingque and they had none of the correct elements, but SW is SW and Qingque is a loving queen, so they blitzed their half anyway. I made the 16-turn timer anyway even though I had a death on each side (both were kinda unlucky enemy targeting). Turns out you could get 2 stars on a stage, but you don't have to get both of the stars in the same run! 
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Jul 31, 2023 13:17
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I’d hold off on spending this weeks immersifiers until later in the week. Looks like a planar fissure event coming up !
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Jul 31, 2023 13:29
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BearPlayingGuitar posted:I’d hold off on spending this weeks immersifiers until later in the week. Looks like a planar fissure event coming up ! Thanks for the heads up!
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Jul 31, 2023 14:29
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Heyyy, my standard banner pity popped!   Time for March 7th to permanently hit the bench because it's ZERO DEFENSE SWORD SURFING GANG  (I ran out of ice ascension materials  )
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Jul 31, 2023 15:57
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looks like a fun setup really
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GateOfD posted:looks like a fun setup really I've been using the same thing but with M7 over YQ and it actually does a preposterous amount of damage off the back of Silver Wolf breaks. Now I have an actual damage dealer to supplement her. 
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