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Mike Sando's QB Tiers article is up: https://archive.ph/tFwYF Tier 1: 1) Patrick Mahomes 2) Joe Burrow 3) Josh Allen 4) Aaron Rodgers 5) Justin Herbert Tier 2: 6) Jalen Hurts 7) Lamar Jackson 8) Trevor Lawrence 9) Dak Prescott 10) Matthew Stafford 11) Deshaun Watson 12) Kirk Cousins Tier 3 13) Kyler Murray 14) Derek Carr 15) Jared Goff 16) Russell Wilson 17) Tua Tagovailoa 18) Jimmy Garoppollo 19) Daniel Jones 20) Geno Smith 21) Justin Fields 22) Ryan Tannehill 23) Mac Jones Tier 4: 24) Brock Purdy 25) Kenny Pickett 26) Jordan Love 26) Baker Mayfield 28) Sam Howell 29) Desmond Ridder 30) Gardner Minshew
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Kalli posted:Mike Sando's QB Tiers article is up: https://archive.ph/tFwYF I think this is the main one I would take issue with. Goff is 6 years younger (how was he only 28 last year?), and had a better year last year than Kirk has had in his entire career. And as good as ASB is, Goff also isn't throwing to Justin Jefferson.
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I'd rather have Love than a bunch of those T3 guys. Also, hurts and lamar should be in the T1.
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Kalli posted:Mike Sando's QB Tiers article is up: https://archive.ph/tFwYF I love how every QB is shown in uniform wearing a helmet, but this is Jimmy G's mugshot: 
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Kalli posted:Mike Sando's QB Tiers article is up: https://archive.ph/tFwYF lol this list sucks, man
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Tua seems a hit low imo but for the most part I think the tiers are good. Derek's headed to tier-1 though baby I tell you what
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abelwingnut posted:is rodgers even a top 15 qb now? lol
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abelwingnut posted:is rodgers even a top 15 qb now? Come on man.
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Big "Aaron Rodgers cannot fail, he can only be failed" vibes coming off of that placement. Maybe reuniting him with Hackett will be a positive change but I'll believe it when I see it.
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In case anyone else didn’t realize, it’s an aggregate ranking from a survey of “50 NFL coaches and execs”. Wilson and especially Watson sure seem to be getting a huge pass for last season. Tua feels too low. Agree about Lamar and Hurts as well.
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Kalli posted:Tier 3 from the article: "A Tier 3 quarterback is a legitimate starter but needs a heavier running game and/or defensive component to win. A lower-volume dropback passing offense suits him best." 2022 Tua famously benefitting from Miami's heavy running game and elite defense: Miami 2022 rushing attempts: 390 (31st) Miami 2022 team defense points allowed: 399 (24th)
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C-Euro posted:Big "Aaron Rodgers cannot fail, he can only be failed" vibes coming off of that placement. Maybe reuniting him with Hackett will be a positive change but I'll believe it when I see it. He's one season removed from back-to-back MVPs. He was playing with a broken thumb and visibly displeased with the Packers organization in 2022. Father Time might strike him down any moment now, of course, but I won't write him off until I actually see it happening. That said I think going to the Jets is largely a lateral move for him offense-wise. I don't see that Garrett Wilson and Breece Hall are meaningfully better than Christian Watson and Aaron Jones, and the Jets offensive line is significantly worse than the Packers OL. Rodgers's success this season is gonna be really reliant on Saleh's defense holding up their end of the bargain.
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Purdy to tier 3, Garoppolo, Mac Jones, Wilson to tier 4.
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SKULL.GIF posted:He's one season removed from back-to-back MVPs. He was playing with a broken thumb and visibly displeased with the Packers organization in 2022. Father Time might strike him down any moment now, of course, but I won't write him off until I actually see it happening. My only issue with this post is you not seeing the difference between Garrett Wilson and Christian Watson what
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Diva Cupcake posted:Miami might, honestly. They don’t give a poo poo about draft picks or money and McDaniel just saw his mentor spend the same on CMC. Haven’t been paying attention to Miami of you genuinely think Miami doesn’t give a poo poo about money
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mcmagic posted:I'd rather have Love than a bunch of those T3 guys. Also, hurts and lamar should be in the T1. Why? Regarding Love -
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kiimo posted:My only issue with this post is you not seeing the difference between Garrett Wilson and Christian Watson Wilson got a lot more volume but produced yards at a similar rate as Watson. Once Watson got over his early-season drops he put together a nearly all-time stretch of games in November. Tied Moss's rookie record. They're different players with different strengths but I don't think Wilson is a clear tier above Watson is what I meant.
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bows1 posted:Why? Regarding Love - You wouldn't rather have Love than guys like Daniel or Mac Jones or Ryan Tannehill who we know are dogshit? I feel like Love will be easily better than those guys.
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I can see it, an unknown is better than a mediocre known. None of those guys are good enough to beat the top teams in the playoffs, so might as well gamble and hope you get lucky.
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Yeah it brings me no pleasure to day this but I think both Wilson and Hall are budding stars. I mean Wilson won OROY with probably the worst QB play in the last 5 years. Breece needs to actually show it for a full season but he was looking electric before getting hurt. Watson and Jones are good too. But if I was making my own tier thing Wilson at least would be a tier above. “Most TD scored over a 4-game span for a rookie WR in NFL history” is real but also such a cherry picked stat just to set up the bit that he’s Randy Moss 2 (nobody is Randy Moss) Docjowles fucked around with this message at 15:53 on Jul 31, 2023 |
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Physical contact resumes 210 days after dying on the field. https://twitter.com/BuffaloBills/status/1686016312005255168
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Love is coming into a really healthy situation for a fresh QB. Green Bay has a top 5 offensive line, one of the best RBs in the league and a solid backup, and has been investing heavily in WR and TE. LaFleur might be a pussy but he's a good offensive coach. The expectations and pressure are also fairly low right now, no one's expecting the Packers to get a third consecutive Hall of Fame quarterback -- half the fanbase expects him to suck out loud and are just waiting to see it happen. Compare that to the Bucs, Patriots, Commanders, Texans, Colts...
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Kalli posted:Mike Sando's QB Tiers article is up: https://archive.ph/tFwYF I think this list pisses off anyone who isn't Mahomes Allen or Burrow
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That list is wrong because any QB list should be Tier 1: Mahomes. I don't care about any of the rest, but no one else is on Pat's level. There will be others, but he's the prototype.
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Forrest on Fire posted:I think this list pisses off anyone who isn't Mahomes Allen or Burrow Nope, still pissed off that like a third of the voters put Allen as a "Tier 2" guy. e: ^^^ but I agree Mahomes should be in his own tier.
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i think the guys that put burrow and allen in tier 2 were subscribed to the same thinking as everyone on here says a few times a week about mahomes. it's right don't understand the herbert stuff. not going to think about it. going to replace it with the big crap i took a while ago after i woke up. aaaahhh!!!! what a GOOD crap!
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I guess true about Love but just because hes an unknown doesnt mean that he automatically jumps above those guys. He could really suck and flame out too...
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Mr. Nice! posted:That list is wrong because any QB list should be
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Soul Glo posted:is kyler murray even playing this year Is there a new Call of Duty coming out this year?
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SKULL.GIF posted:Rodgers's success this season is gonna be really reliant on Saleh's defense holding up their end of the bargain. Jets we're 5th in defensive DVOA and 3rd in 2nd half defensive DVOA. The Packers were 32nd in Late and Close situations and like 27th in 2nd half defensive DVOA. Defenses can swing year to year obviously but the Jets are a significant upgrade on the other side of the ball. He hasn't played with a defense like that since their 2010 team.
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Ornery and Hornery posted:Views from dat qb list: The Geno blurb was basically, "this is one of the biggest year to year jumps we've measured; he needs to do it for more than one year to be tier 2." Which I think is fair.
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The Bucs are a pretty decent situation. But their quarterbacks are rear end. I would probably take Love over any older Quarterback in Tier 3 at least, if only for UPSIDE POTENTIAL. I do think it's going to be fascinating watching the Packers this year without Aaron Rodgers, as no Aaron Rodgers should probably completely change the shape of the defenses that the Packers have to deal with. Gonna be interesting to see the Packers RB core when they might have to run into more run stopping fronts, vs when Rodgers is back there and teams are playing to try and minimize what Rodgers can do.
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Codependent Poster posted:Is there a new Call of Duty coming out this year? fair point is kyler murray even playing football this year
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Soul Glo posted:fair point Prooobably, if only for an audition for another team. Isn't he supposed to be back around like week 5 or 6?
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