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Ghost Leviathan posted:He even does the classic move of finally hiring someone to do x to shut up the people telling him he needs to delegate, and then makes sure they have no actual power or contribution by continuing to override or micromanage everything they do until they give up and become a yes-man or quit. And sometimes they get fired as a scapegoat, when the numbers are bad.
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Grendels Dad posted:Too bad he's poo poo at working, the stuff he micromanages is noticably worse for his influence. It makes a tiny bit more sense when you realize that Vince books stuff solely to amuse himself, and that he legitimately gets mad whenever a wrestler that he doesn't like (for whatever reason) gets over with the audience. I used to think that his end goal was to get an audience to react exactly how he wanted them to, but since he's been given absolute tons of money by the networks his shows are on and the House of Saud, he probably doesn't even care about that any more. He knows he can put on whatever he wants and he's going to get paid regardless (especially now that both TV writers and actors are on strike).
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He's the ringmaster of a circus and the circus might as well be called "Vince McMahon's WWE"
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lol when Steve Austin first came to the WWE someone described him to Vince as a very good worker and Vince decided that if he was that good then his ringname should be... the ringmaster
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they gave him a list of like the worst gimmicks imaginable and stone cold has been very open about how awful they all were lol
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That's the other thing about Vince, he likes stupid gimmicks, he thinks they're funny and entertaining. He's a carny showing off his favorite collection of sideshow freaks. But you can't tell him most people don't, he's too far up his own rear end to comprehend it. Vince 100% believed in and stood behind the Gobbledy Gooker as something that people would like. rndmnmbr fucked around with this message at 23:44 on Jul 31, 2023 |
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Vince McMahon has covered up at least one murder and committed at least one rape.
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Could be worse. Two, for example.
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Animal-Mother posted:Vince McMahon has covered up at least one murder and committed at least one rape. Superfly Jimmy Snooka was his top face. Learn how to work kid.
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AlmightyBob posted:they gave him a list of like the worst gimmicks imaginable and stone cold has been very open about how awful they all were lol What are you saying, little man? That Chilly McFreeze wouldn't put asses in seats?
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Vince is more carny than most carnies.
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I feel comfortable describing his involvement in Owen Hart's death as murder.
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imagining a world where steve austin became a sub zero knock off and the dude who was glacier became the hottest wrestler of all time helping WCW to put WWF out of business
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Ghost Leviathan posted:Vince is more carny than most carnies. Vince is the final form of carnies everywhere. spaceblancmange posted:imagining a world where steve austin became a sub zero knock off and the dude who was glacier became the hottest wrestler of all time helping WCW to put WWF out of business Here are a few of the names that Steve Austin COULD have gotten: Fang McFrost, Snowman, Otto von Ruthless, Mr. Freeze, Ice Dagger, Cruel Luke, Cool Cat, and Chilly McFreeze Kind of want to see Steve Austin as Cool Cat now... 
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mick foley was almost mason the mutilator
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Bogus Adventure posted:Here are a few of the names that Steve Austin COULD have gotten: I started hearing this in my head like Joker listing off the villains’ names in Lego Batman and it made a LOT more sense.
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ZixTheYeti posted:I started hearing this in my head like Joker listing off the villains’ names in Lego Batman and it made a LOT more sense. I'm doing this now, but with Cesar Romero Joker voice 
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So maybe this isn't the right question or maybe it's more complicated but have WWE stars succeeded because of Vince or in spite of Vince? I know they go through a lot of different gimmicks before finding one that clicks but he seems super involved in the creation of those if I'm reading what y'all are saying correctly
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Bogus Adventure posted:Cruel Luke Did legal tell him they couldn't use Cruel Hand Luke? Seth Pecksniff posted:So maybe this isn't the right question or maybe it's more complicated but have WWE stars succeeded because of Vince or in spite of Vince? I know they go through a lot of different gimmicks before finding one that clicks but he seems super involved in the creation of those if I'm reading what y'all are saying correctly Depends. Sometimes you have someone like Jake The Snake where the character is fully formed and Vince just needs a body (Jake has said he didn't want anything to do with the character, but Vince said he'd get a big push if he did it), but I think especially nowadays most people make their own character. Either way, no idea is good enough to get over a terrible wrestler, and a good wrestler can get the crowd behind almost any terrible idea. Or you could give the kayfabe answer where Vince and Hogan had a match at WrestleMania to determine who was responsible for Hulkamania.
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Jake the Snake was called that at first because he was skinny. Then he developed the untrustworthy character who could strike at any time. Then Vince hired him and just wanted him to carry a live snake, which Jake was scared to do. "Pal, I could hire anybody to carry a loving snake." He was persuaded.
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Bogus Adventure posted:Here are a few of the names that Steve Austin COULD have gotten: What about 
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Shredder posted:What about That guy is the biggest babyface in the wrestling game
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Bogus Adventure posted:Here are a few of the names that Steve Austin COULD have gotten: Gonna pull out No Mercy and CAW Otto von Ruthless immediately. The gimmick is obviously big brawly man who sits on you whenever he wants (half crabs, camel clutch, all gonna be there), but can't decide if he's big and bald, or the one touch of the aristocratic "von" is to be perfectly coiffed hair?
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was Chilly McFreeze supposed to be Irish as well? I never thought about it until now
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Where did the word kayfabe come from?
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Mispronunciation of key fob
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Nobody knows for sure. Wikipedia lists few theoriesquote:One theory suggests that it was derived from a word manipulation of the term "be fake" (à la pig latin and other argots), designed to conceal the true meaning. Kennel fucked around with this message at 14:04 on Aug 1, 2023 |
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Animal-Mother posted:Jake the Snake was called that at first because he was skinny. Then he developed the untrustworthy character who could strike at any time. Then Vince hired him and just wanted him to carry a live snake, which Jake was scared to do. That reminds me: Jake once told a story of how, during his big run in the WWF, he was starting to work out and get in better shape. He said he was starting to see real gains in muscle and definition, when one day he got called into Vince's office. He said when he got in there, Vince went off on him, asking him what the hell he was doing. Vince then basically said that he already had a bunch of muscleheads, and that he wanted Jake to keep his original look and build because Vince thought it added to the sleazy, devious nature of his character.
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Hirez posted:was Chilly McFreeze supposed to be Irish as well? I never thought about it until now The Cryonic Knacker
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Bogus Adventure posted:Fang McFrost, Snowman, Otto von Ruthless, Mr. Freeze, Ice Dagger, Cruel Luke, Cool Cat, and Chilly McFreeze Vince digging through Capcom's garbage and his eyes light up as a finds a list of rejected MegaMan X bosses.
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Crowetron posted:Vince digging through Capcom's garbage and his eyes light up as a finds a list of rejected MegaMan X bosses. he's going to stumble on the name Duff McWhalen and do the vince face
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"Frosty Snowflake" Steve Austin "Brisk Hoar" Steve Austin "Ice Cream Slamwich" Steve Austin "Chilly Nipples" Steve Austin
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Kurt Angle is incredible. He was so great as a heel lampooning 1980s babyfaces, and the fact leaned wholeheartedly into the role is awesome.  
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Ambassadorofsodomy posted:Where did the word kayfabe come from? 
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Interesting Wonder what this is about https://twitter.com/HuffPost/status/1686759176335134721
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does vince really seem like the kind of person who wouldnt be doing crimes like insider trading or racketeering
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It's interesting because it was Linda who unsuccessfully ran for two different Senate seats in Connecticut and spent time as the head of the SBA in Trump's cabinet before resigning to take charge of one of his PACs.
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It's Triple H and Stephanie's revenge for muscling back into WWE book it
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can't wait to see one of vince's flunkies appear as merrick garland on raw and eat a stunner
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