[Mideast + Africa] Getting rid of Bongo- but at what Brice?

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Atrocious Joe: Sep 2, 2011

seems like a struggle in DC about the route to take with regard to the military governments in West Africa. the think tankers are getting annoyed that Biden administration hasn't called it a coup yet.

quote:

Senior officials at the State Department and Pentagon are supporting the provision of nonlethal security assistance to Burkina Faso�s military, arguing that the threat posed by a spiraling Islamist insurgency requires action, especially since Russia�s Wagner Group would be eager to step in. A senior administration official said Wagner is �salivating� for the chance to establish a formal partnership with the Burkinab� government.

In urgent phone calls and private meetings, top Burkinab� officials have appealed to foreign diplomats for help in defeating the insurgents, according to multiple U.S. government officials. But the Burkinab� government took power in a military coup last year and has been implicated by human rights groups in violence against civilians, including a massacre of at least 156 people in April allegedly carried out by the army.
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That U.S. official, who, like others, spoke on the condition of anonymity to discuss a sensitive diplomatic issue, said that such a package would require Burkina Faso to improve its respect for human rights. The administration would have to consult with Congress and waive a provision of U.S. law that bans military aid for governments that take power via coup, the officials said. The package has yet to get White House approval, officials said, and could face pushback on Capitol Hill, where lawmakers have questioned the administration�s ability to balance democracy-promotion and managing security concerns.

A top Biden administration official said the administration fears that Burkina Faso will become a gateway for terrorism in coastal West African countries.

Critics, including officials on Capitol Hill and researchers, say that providing military assistance will send the wrong message to a regime that lacks democratic legitimacy and has a troubling human rights record. By providing even nonlethal support to the Burkinab� military, the United States could encourage army excesses and thus further inflame the insurgency, the critics warn.
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A senior Defense Department official said �the urgency of the emergency� means the United States has to do more. �Burkina Faso is at a tipping point,� said the official. �Our position is that if we don�t provide assistance, then someone else will, whether it is Wagner or China or another group.�

In October, senior officials from the White House, Pentagon and State Department visited Burkina Faso and met with senior Burkinab� officials. During the visit, the U.S. officials said, they told Traor� that if he did business with the Wagner Group, that would cross a red line for the United States. They said that while the United States would try to extend more help within the constraints of American law, �if you go Prigozhin, we will be done.�

https://www.washingtonpost.com/world/2023/08/02/africa-burkina-faso-niger-security/

The phrasing of this article makes it seem like Biden's inner circle, Congress, and the think tank class are supporting a break with Burkina Faso, while the bureaucracy in the State Department and Pentagon want to continue working with the government there.

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Frosted Flake: Sep 13, 2011; Semper Shitpost Ubique

AFRICOM apparently exists to terrify people with nighttime raids, not to actually mix it up with an organized bloc of countries with intact militaries.

# ? Aug 2, 2023 21:53

Isentropy: Dec 12, 2010

Frosted Flake posted:

AFRICOM apparently exists to terrify people with nighttime raids, not to actually mix it up with an organized bloc of countries with intact militaries.

never mind if that Algeria potentially intervening thing is true. how the gently caress did they get 400 Iskanders?

ETA: I imagine Algeria maintains such a strong military exactly because they don�t want to become part of francafrique or a �d�partement outre-mer� again

# ? Aug 2, 2023 21:58

Fozzy The Bear: Dec 11, 1999; Nothing much, watching the game, drinking a bud

PawParole posted:

https://twitter.com/sajid_nadeem78/status/1686386057942892544

Seems FANO is getting momentum, reportedly they got many strategic towns under their control.

I can't find any other source for this. I use Ethiopian Airlines, they are very accommodating and pleasant.

Although Addis Ababa airport was kind of a hassle.

Fozzy The Bear has issued a correction as of 22:19 on Aug 2, 2023

# ? Aug 2, 2023 22:17

Ardennes: May 12, 2002

Isentropy posted:

never mind if that Algeria potentially intervening thing is true. how the gently caress did they get 400 Iskanders?

ETA: I imagine Algeria maintains such a strong military exactly because they don�t want to become part of francafrique or a �d�partement outre-mer� again

The Algerian Navy isn't that bad either with 6 sub, 8 frigates, and 16 corvettes (some modern Chinese/Russian models), I actually wonder how worried Spain or France are that they don't screw with Algeria just because the Algerians actually have a strong counter-punch. Greece/Turkey have got their own issues, and the Italians seem mostly focused on hunting down refugees.

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Cpt_Obvious: Jun 18, 2007

What options for regime change can America even do anymore? The American army is recovering from afghanistan and sending all the equipment they can spare to Ukraine, and the CIA is crippled by Havana syndrome.

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mawarannahr: May 21, 2019

Cpt_Obvious posted:

What options for regime change can America even do anymore? The American army is recovering from afghanistan and sending all the equipment they can spare to Ukraine, and the CIA is crippled by Havana syndrome.

there's still some stuff clinking around, america just dumped $345 million in defense articles and services of the Department of Defense, and military education and training, to provide assistance to Taiwan.

# ? Aug 2, 2023 23:08

Frosted Flake: Sep 13, 2011; Semper Shitpost Ubique

After Libya, why wouldn't Algeria buy as much current-generation Russian equipment as possible? Russia was hard up for export orders throughout the 2010's so it was a great time to buy.

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Tankbuster: Oct 1, 2021

Fozzy The Bear posted:

I can't find any other source for this. I use Ethiopian Airlines, they are very accommodating and pleasant.

Although Addis Ababa airport was kind of a hassle.

addis ababa airport is constantly undergoing expansion so that makes sense.

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tristeham: Jul 31, 2022

the algerian civil war only ended twenty years ago

# ? Aug 3, 2023 00:24

DancingShade: Jul 26, 2007; by Fluffdaddy

Atrocious Joe posted:

seems like a struggle in DC about the route to take with regard to the military governments in West Africa. the think tankers are getting annoyed that Biden administration hasn't called it a coup yet.

https://www.washingtonpost.com/world/2023/08/02/africa-burkina-faso-niger-security/

The phrasing of this article makes it seem like Biden's inner circle, Congress, and the think tank class are supporting a break with Burkina Faso, while the bureaucracy in the State Department and Pentagon want to continue working with the government there.

It's to the benefit of the USA if France loses power and influence. At the same time the USA needs to provide limited lip service support to France.

A weaker France is a weaker EU, then everyone is more dependant on the USA.

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Atrocious Joe: Sep 2, 2011

quote:

Ousmane Sonko, sharp-tongued figure at heart of Senegal crisis
Dakar (AFP) �

Issued on: 05/03/2021 - 17:58
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He says he has "no complexes" with regard to France and the United States, which wield major economic clout in Senegal.

He has called for a "responsible and intelligent" exit from the CFA franc -- the West African single currency that some consider a colonial relic.

"We have to protect our national fabric, we have to strengthen our industrial firms," he has said.

"The tax breaks which are being offered to foreigners should be offered to our people."

In his defence of the rape accusations, Sonko said he suffered from back pain and had gone to a beauty salon for massages as he was unable to afford a professional kinestherapist.

- Presidential hope? -

Sonko's strong showing has left him the best-placed opposition figure for the 2024 elections, although he has also been helped by the fact that leading rivals have either joined the government or been sidelined by financial scandals.

https://www.france24.com/en/live-news/20210305-ousmane-sonko-sharp-tongued-figure-at-heart-of-senegal-crisis

quote:

Death toll in Senegal protests rises to 15 as opposition supporters clash with police
June 3, 2023 7:59 PM ET
By The Associated Press

DAKAR, Senegal � The number of people killed in days of clashes between Senegalese police and supporters of opposition leader Ousmane Sonko has now risen to 15, including two security officers, the government said on Saturday.

While Dakar was calmer on Saturday, clashes continued into the evening. In residential neighborhoods, protesters threw rocks at police, barricaded roads and set tires on fire. The army patrolled the streets as police fired tear gas at the demonstrators, inspecting and detaining people deemed to be causing trouble.

Residents peered over the rooftops of buildings, both shielding for cover and watching the clashes.

The clashes first broke out on Thursday, after Sonko was convicted of corrupting youth but acquitted on charges of raping a woman who worked at a massage parlor and making death threats against her. Sonko, who didn't attend his trial in Dakar, was sentenced to two years in prison. His lawyer said a warrant hadn't yet been issued for his arrest.

Sonko came third in Senegal's 2019 presidential election and is popular with the country's youth. His supporters maintain his legal troubles are part of a government effort to derail his candidacy in the 2024 presidential election.

https://www.npr.org/2023/06/03/1180013963/senegal-protests-sonko-opposition-leader

https://twitter.com/AJEnglish/status/1686420349687111680?s=20

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i say swears online: Mar 4, 2005

https://twitter.com/jacksonhinklle/status/1686787396472389632

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Palladium: May 8, 2012; Very Good
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not enough walkie-talkies, rated 1/10

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croup coughfield: Apr 8, 2020; Can't post for 60 days!

baofeng nation

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croup coughfield: Apr 8, 2020; Can't post for 60 days!

burkina faso if you need a radio guy im for hire. im unlicensed and wanted by the fcc

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i say swears online: Mar 4, 2005

i know all the lyrics to guerrilla radio and am fully qualified, sir

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Slavvy: Dec 11, 2012

The tiger stripe + red beret combo really pops I must say

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papersack: Jul 27, 2003

those dudes look cool af

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tristeham: Jul 31, 2022

i say swears online posted:

https://twitter.com/jacksonhinklle/status/1686787396472389632

nice drip

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mawarannahr: May 21, 2019

i say swears online posted:

i know all the lyrics to guerrilla radio and am fully qualified, sir

turn that poo poo up doc

# ? Aug 3, 2023 18:23

Centrist Committee: Aug 6, 2019

Cpt_Obvious posted:

I know absolutely nothing about the nigeria coup are there good sources/posts for some info?

Ben Norton did a podcast on it a few days ago

https://soundcloud.com/geopoliticaleconomy/us-france-intervention-niger-west-africa

# ? Aug 3, 2023 22:53

AnimeIsTrash: Jun 30, 2018

https://taskandpurpose.com/news/us-military-drone-missions-niger-halted/

Lol, no wonder the US has been putting so much pressure on them, they lost a base in Africa.

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Cpt_Obvious: Jun 18, 2007

Palladium posted:

not enough walkie-talkies, rated 1/10

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Danann: Aug 4, 2013

AnimeIsTrash posted:

https://taskandpurpose.com/news/us-military-drone-missions-niger-halted/

Lol, no wonder the US has been putting so much pressure on them, they lost a base in Africa.

$110 million USD lmao

# ? Aug 4, 2023 00:48

mawarannahr: May 21, 2019

Danann posted:

$110 million USD lmao

that's nothing, military just spent 3-4 times that amount on a travel booking system with SAP that didn't pan out, so they're back on the old system they say is so inefficient it is seriously hindering us military readiness or something

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PawParole: Nov 16, 2019

https://twitter.com/addisstandard/status/1687116544860729344

https://twitter.com/faisalroble19/status/1687119895807569920

The regional gov't of the Amhara state is one the verge of loosing control of the region to Amhara ultranationalists.

PawParole has issued a correction as of 02:57 on Aug 4, 2023

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PawParole: Nov 16, 2019

https://twitter.com/faisalroble19/status/1685676132560191488

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Pomeroy: Apr 20, 2020; Can't post for 14 hours!

Cpt_Obvious posted:

I know absolutely nothing about the nigeria coup are there good sources/posts for some info?

https://ipa-aip.org/sub-saharan-africa/declaration-from-the-communist-party-of-benin-on-niger/

https://ipa-aip.org/sub-saharan-africa/declaration-from-the-wapo-on-ecowas-war-in-niger/

Several communist and socialist parties in the region have put out statements here:
https://ipa-aip.org/

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gradenko_2000: Oct 5, 2010; HELL SERPENT; Lipstick Apathy

https://twitter.com/postingwhilegay/status/1687234383277707264?t=X9Ps1McpIj3TiZdUiPKrIw&s=19

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Hedenius: Aug 23, 2007

Frosted Flake posted:

It's cool as gently caress that this woman got to go to an Olympic qualifying event as an amateur. That's the spirit of the Olympics. Look up the St. Louis Olympics, or the British ski jumper, Jamaican bobsled team.

It�s actually the World University Games in Chengdu.

# ? Aug 4, 2023 05:13

BrutalistMcDonalds: Oct 4, 2012; Lipstick Apathy

2011:

quote:

In 2009, the South African Communist Party (SACP) warned against the emergence of what it described as a proto-fascist tendency in the ruling alliance, where elements were expressing views that, if left unchecked, could mature into fascism. Clearly, the party was referring to the Youth League under Malema�s leadership.

The SACP argued that while it lacked a coherent ideological outlook, this political tendency is driven by sections of the Black Economic Empowerment (BEE) elite who are desperate to capture parts of the state to bail out BEE capital in the wake of the recession.

According to the SACP, this BEE tendency has been developing an axis of influence between themselves and marginalised, alienated and unemployed youths who are open to populist mobilisation.

The proto-fascist elements include an appeal to baser instincts such as male chauvinism, paramilitary solutions to social problems, racialised identity politics, and the turning of politics into �spectacle� where followers become spectators of their leaders� antics, rather than agents of emancipation.

https://sacsis.org.za/s/story.php?s=620

2014:

quote:

The SACP continued the alliance attack on Julius Malema and the EFF by warning that they are fascists using populist rhetoric to mislead the people. �Phantsi with Hitler! Phantsi with fascism!� yelled SACP provincial chairman and Gauteng MEC of Human Settlements and Cooperative Governance Jacob Mamabolo. �We defeated Apartheid fascism in South Africa led by the white minority government. We must not allow the rise of fascism in our democracy led by black or white fascists.� Mamabolo went on to describe the rise of the Nazi Party, suggesting comparisons with the EFF.

https://www.dailymaverick.co.za/article/2014-09-22-sacp-we-will-huff-and-we-will-puff-and-well-blow-the-eff-down/

quote:

The rise of fascism in the present epoch of our modern democracy is not just a threat to our country, but to the Southern African region, our continent, the world and the whole of the future of humanity. Fascism was never revolutionary and therefore the EFF is never to be revolutionary ... Over the ages of our history, human societies have always asked themselves the question why such hogwash movements, are able to embellish themselves, as the most revolutionary representatives of the wishes and aspirations of the majority of our people. Why are they able to occupy the political centre stage as the most revolutionary presidium than the revolution itself?

Our people have to open their watchful eyes to the pandemonium of the Economic Freedom Fighters which seeks to turn our country into an arena of hooliganism and anarchy. The EFF has become a political architecture of the highest forms and expressions of a fascist movement.

The movement represents the most ideologically and politically backward tendency ever in history since the demise of fascist dictatorship in Germany and Italy. In our modern times democracy we cannot allow our national democratic revolution to be an emulation of Adolf Hitler or Benito Mussolini.

[...]

Phatse Justice Piitso is the former Ambassador to the republic of Cuba and the former provincial secretary of the SACP writing this article on his personal capacity.

https://www.politicsweb.co.za/news-and-analysis/the-eff-and-the-five-characteristics-of-fascism

2023:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=k3PML2ZT7WE

BrutalistMcDonalds has issued a correction as of 05:46 on Aug 4, 2023

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Ramrod Hotshot: May 30, 2003

I don�t know that much about Malema, but he wouldn�t have started the EFF if not for the failures of the ANC. there�s a thin line in the logic of the article between �fascist� leader and socialist

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DancingShade: Jul 26, 2007; by Fluffdaddy

mawarannahr posted:

that's nothing, military just spent 3-4 times that amount on a travel booking system with SAP that didn't pan out, so they're back on the old system they say is so inefficient it is seriously hindering us military readiness or something

Sir should we just spend a hundred million on more admin clerks to do the bookings by hand and imbed them in units to improve service?

Sir why are you tearing up my promotion recommendation?

Okay a smartphone app it is sir.

# ? Aug 4, 2023 06:09

Atrocious Joe: Sep 2, 2011

quote:

The proto-fascist elements include an appeal to baser instincts such as male chauvinism, paramilitary solutions to social problems, racialised identity politics, and the turning of politics into �spectacle� where followers become spectators of their leaders� antics, rather than agents of emancipation.

so they are accusing Julius Malema of being like a US politician?

honestly, fair

# ? Aug 4, 2023 06:18

KomradeX: Oct 29, 2011

Atrocious Joe posted:

so they are accusing Julius Malema of being like a US politician?

honestly, fair

He's got more showman ship than any US politician. The calls to arise while being lifted up on the scissor lift are so much better than Trump, or Beato jumping on tables

# ? Aug 4, 2023 06:27

Atrocious Joe: Sep 2, 2011

PawParole posted:

https://twitter.com/faisalroble19/status/1685676132560191488

Pressure from Amhara communities in the US won't be decisive. Amhara groups led large rallies in the DC during the Tigray war that united other Ethiopian and Eritrean groups around anti-TPLF sentiment, and sanctions against Ethiopia still passed. I don't think a pro-FANO movement will be as strong.

The US wants to return to it's prior relationship with Ethiopia if anything

quote:

JUNE 29, 2023, 11:46 AM
The Biden administration has quietly informed Congress that as far as it is concerned, Ethiopia is no longer engaging in a �pattern of gross violations of human rights,� lifting a legal designation that will pave the way to resume the dispatch of U.S. and international economic aid to the East African country, according to an internal U.S. Treasury Department notification and officials familiar with the matter.

The move comes as Washington looks to revamp its relationship with Ethiopia, one of the largest economies in East Africa, after the country emerged last year from a brutal civil war that is considered to be the bloodiest conflict of the 21st century.

https://foreignpolicy.com/2023/06/29/ethiopia-tigray-war-human-rights-violations-designation-biden-us-government/

Getachew Reda was just in DC talking about how Tigray and the federal government are having a great time working together
https://twitter.com/reda_getachew/status/1684721410210439168?s=20
https://twitter.com/reda_getachew/status/1684721417294663680?s=20

Also if Eritrean support for the Amhara rebels is real (seems like just rumors) the US is going to back Ethiopia to the hilt again. Abiy might annoy the US by trying to have good relations with China and Iran, but Afwerki is saying "Russia must be supported in their fight against NATO."

https://twitter.com/timand2037/status/1686708318063169536?s=20

# ? Aug 4, 2023 06:53

crepeface: Nov 5, 2004; r*p*f*c*

subtitled statements given by the leaders of by mali and burkina faso

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fOqKEgh1tjE
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=O8J5mK7JKMY

# ? Aug 4, 2023 07:24

BrutalistMcDonalds: Oct 4, 2012; Lipstick Apathy

Ramrod Hotshot posted:

I don�t know that much about Malema, but he wouldn�t have started the EFF if not for the failures of the ANC. there�s a thin line in the logic of the article between �fascist� leader and socialist

sure. but malema comes out of the ANC, or more specifically a right-wing faction within their youth movement. here's that 2009 article from the SACP talking about a proto-fascist tendency (i.e. malema was at the time the leader of the ANC's youth wing and already a millionaire). the basic idea is that there has been a class of emerging nouveau rich gangsters (white and black) who used their political connections to take over formerly white-owned firms, take whatever money they could and bankrupt them, but they were also going into debt (it sounded like a pyramid scheme based on roping more people into the scheme by taking out loans) and malema's project started as a way for these guys to take over the state to keep it going, bail themselves out, and maintain their lavish lifestyles, and that turned into the EFF after the ANC booted him out.

back then the communists called it "kebble-ism" after brett kebble, a white businessman who was involved in these corrupt tender deals, went broke, and then hired gunmen to arrange his own assassination (suicide-by-hitmen really, and those gunmen are now malema's personal friends).

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Interestingly the seeming desperation of the new tendency is also influenced by the desperate conditions of BEE capital in the light of the current global capitalist crisis and its impact on South Africa. What in fact appears as an articulation of the progressive clauses of the Freedom Charter is immediately betrayed by the naked class interests of trying to use the state to bail out dependent BEE capital. Ironically, but not surprisingly, the bail out for black capital simultaneously becomes the bail out and strengthening of white domestic capital upon which the former is entirely dependent.

This new tendency has its roots in what we might call "Kebble-ism" - in which some of the more roguish elements of capital, lumpen-white capitalists, handed out largesse and favours and generally sought to corrupt elements within our movement in order to secure their own personal accumulation agendas. Some of this largesse helped elements within our movement to emerge as capitalists in their own right. They, in turn, imitated the behaviour of their patrons, using largesse and favours to build up a network of cheer-leaders and political supporters to safe-guard their positions within the movement (sometimes defensively at a time when they were also being marginalized by the Mbeki inner-circle).

In particular, these elements of BEE capital have been exploring a class axis between themselves and the great mass of marginalized, alienated, often unemployed black youth. The material glue of this axis is the politics of patronage, of messiahs, and its tentative ideological form is a demagogic African chauvinism. Because of its rhetorical militancy the media often portrays it as "radical" and "left-wing" - but it is fundamentally right-wing, even proto-fascist. While it is easy to dismiss the buffoonery of some of the leading lieutenants, we should not underestimate the resources made available to them, and the huge challenge we all have when it comes to millions of increasingly alienated, often unemployed youth who are potentially available for all kinds of demagogic mobilization.

https://www.politicsweb.co.za/news-and-analysis/protofascist-tendency-emerging-in-anc--sacp-cc

https://twitter.com/AthiMtongana/status/1684622767537135617

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The origins of the [fascist] accusation are to be found in the ANC's own history and traditions and particularly in its unique alliance with the South African Communist Party. This relationship goes back to the 1950s. The Communist Party was banned by the white supremacist National Party government in 1950. The party briefly dissolved itself and its membership went into exile or went underground. Those who remained in South Africa linked up with the ANC to form the Congress Alliance, bringing in several other groups, including trade unions, to fight apartheid. In the 1980s the movement was transformed into the Tripartite Alliance, linking the ANC, the Communists and the largest trade union movement, COSATU*.

Being a member of the Communist Party has been no barrier to being a member of the ANC as well. After his death the Communists revealed that Nelson Mandela himself had been on their Central Committee, a fact the party had previously denied. Gwede Mantashe is not only the ANC's most senior party official after Jacob Zuma, he is also a member of the Communist Party Politbureau.

While the ANC has provided the bulk of the Alliance's membership, the Communists have helped provide its ideological rigour. Much of the policy work and ideology of the ANC can be traced back to the Communists, which is why their statements on Julius Malema are worth serious consideration.

For at least the past five years the South African Communist Party has been making no secret of its belief that Malema aligned himself with a faction within the ANC that had made their money via the government's Black Economic Empowerment programme. These deals frequently required black businessmen to get deep into debt to buy stakes in previously white owned businesses. Some got into trouble, flailing around to relay their loans.

Highlighting this issue, the Communist Party attacked those who called for nationalisation, including Julius Malema. The party declared that it had warned against the use of state finances to bail out the emergent new rich. It came out strongly against: "...diverting billions of rands of public funds to serve the interests of a narrow black (and white) capitalist stratum." Nor was it just a question of "bailing-out debt-ridden BEE capital," according to the communists. The party alleged that members of the new black elite had approached union officials in the mining sector, asking for their support. The trade unionists were allegedly told: "...why don't you support the nationalization of the mines? If government takes over the mines they will turn to us to run them." State nationalisation of the mines would relieve the nouveau riche of their crippling debts and allow them continue to enjoy their newly-found wealth.

[...]

The report quoted the German Marxist, Walter Benjamin, as saying that while socialists politicised theatre, fascists did the reverse � turning politics into a noxious form of theatre.

�This, in turn, reinforces the nature of the relationship between �leaders� and their popular base � the latter become �spectators�, who clap and cheer in admiration at their patrons, and boo and jeer at rivals. The mass base is mobilized on the basis of being perpetual �spectator-victims� � not protagonists, not collective self-emancipators. Above all, however, it is the nature of the still rudimentary class axis, at play here, that should send out early danger signals.�

https://commonwealth-opinion.blogs.sas.ac.uk/2014/are-the-economic-freedom-fights-a-threat-to-south-african-democracy/

malema is just a gucci fascist aligned with mobsters, gangsters, and he co-opts and uses a thin layer of left-wing rhetoric and aesthetics to mask the nature of the project and build a mass base, like mussolini but more "red" in the image. to bamboozle people about who is getting robbed and who is really doing the robbing. leftists project their wish fantasies onto him because he wears a red beret and calls himself a socialist and sings kill the boer. also this is funny from their FAQ on marxism which doesn't have an author, except it's written in the first person, and is part of their "political education notes" (which i imagine they just cribbed from somewhere):

BrutalistMcDonalds has issued a correction as of 10:36 on Aug 4, 2023

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DancingShade: Jul 26, 2007; by Fluffdaddy

i say swears online posted:

https://twitter.com/jacksonhinklle/status/1686787396472389632

Being photogenic is important these days. I guess Burkina Faso is calling the shots.

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