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Every time I see a trailer for Disenchantment, it doesn't seem very inspiring. It doesn't seem to be commentating on much that I've seen, and it's not doing anything particularly weird with its style of fantasy, it's just pretty boilerplate. And it wants to do sitcom idiots, but also have a straightlaced overarching narrative adventure story? Did Groening really want to have a traditional adventure story, or does he just have no idea what else to do in a fantasy story? I feel like the first trailer had a lot of dumb peasant jokes, which seems like a really bad way to start things out. Here's our world, most people in it suck in an uninteresting way.
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Disenchantment isn't actually *bad*, really. It's just not good. So it gets probably more crap than it deserves, because people are disappointed and wanted more out of it.
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Aug 4, 2023 02:35
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I’ve seen OG Futurama enough times to know that “Fry has a one-sided crush on Leela” is actually present in VERY few episodes of the original run. And when it is, it’s a big part of the plot and treats both characters with respect. In the majority of episodes, they are very much just platonic friends and it doesn’t even hint otherwise. Elmo was just a creep and a terrible character to boot. Huge waste of Nat Faxson.
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Aug 4, 2023 02:39
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MokBa posted:Elmo was just a creep and a terrible character to boot. Huge waste of Nat Faxson. Cannot be stressed enough, Classy Devil posted:It's unreal how this show managed to waste such a stacked cast.
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Aug 4, 2023 03:14
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TheDeadlyShoe posted:Disenchantment isn't actually *bad*, really. It's just not good. So it gets probably more crap than it deserves, because people are disappointed and wanted more out of it. Yeah, it's crushingly mediocre given everything that went in the pot and how us watching it can easily see how it could have been done better. It's neither a strong character-driven comedy nor is it a good vehicle for gags about fantasy stuff. It somehow ended up in-between, with characters that are ultimately muddled also never willing to fully commit to the setting for fear of it being to niche, when Futurama and even the Simpsons in their prime would throw out jokes knowing it would go over the heads of some in the audience. They aimed for the middle, and they hit lower. It's watchable, but not exciting. I watched like two seasons of it. I don't regret the time I spent but also I don't feel like watching more of it. It could have been so much better.
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Aug 4, 2023 03:36
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TheDeadlyShoe posted:Disenchantment isn't actually *bad*, really. It's just not good. So it gets probably more crap than it deserves, because people are disappointed and wanted more out of it. I think Elfo being such a creep pushes it into the bad territory.
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Aug 4, 2023 05:02
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Disenchantment is loving terrible. The plot is bad, the jokes aren’t funny, the characters suck, the settings are stupid, I think the only thing you could say for it is it looks good from an animation perspective.
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Aug 4, 2023 10:36
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If you'd told me the only reason Disenchantment existed was some weird copyright thing to keep the animation software techniques they created for Futurama in Groening's hands, I'd believe you. Like how Spinal Tap has to keep releasing albums every few years or else they can't keep the rights (and residuals) to the movie.
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Aug 4, 2023 15:42
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I'm enjoying the new Harley Quinn season. Feels like they've cleaned up the animation a lot since season 1 and 2. And I just realized Giancarlo Esposito is Lex Luthor, which is perfect casting.
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Aug 4, 2023 15:59
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Can I skip season 3 or so I just need to power through it?
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Aug 4, 2023 16:00
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Arc Hammer posted:I'm enjoying the new Harley Quinn season. Feels like they've cleaned up the animation a lot since season 1 and 2. And I just realized Giancarlo Esposito is Lex Luthor, which is perfect casting. Season Three had by far the worst animation I've seen in what's ostensibly a decently budgeted adult animation show, let alone one that was produced for HBO Max (which it was, before the handover and change). I almost considered giving up tbh. Warbird posted:Can I skip season 3 or so I just need to power through it? There's good stuff and arc stuff and sometimes there's both. Watch what you want though.
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Aug 4, 2023 16:03
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Season 3 felt like they were spinning the wheels after the first two seasons went hard on Harley and Ivy becoming better people for each other. It got better though especially the eps dealing with Batman/Bruce where Harley got to put her PHD to work.
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Aug 4, 2023 16:10
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The Valentine's Day Harley Quinn episode was really good and continued the tradition or Bane stealing every scene he is in. I am a little upset that so far Bane and the woman he met during that special are not together anymore. I was hoping they would let him keep that win.
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Aug 4, 2023 16:17
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In all the talk about bad animation, it's good to remember that Harley Quinn exists. Four seasons of amazing content from a show I had absolutely zero expectations for. They made Harley, Ivy and even the goddamn Joker into interesting characters. Something I thought was impossible. Hell, they even made the Bat Family fun.
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Aug 4, 2023 16:23
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Yeah it was sometimes hard to watch season 3 of HQ because of how bad the animation was. It improved a lot this season
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Aug 4, 2023 16:53
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I'd like to know why it dropped like it did. "Hey, we've got an unexpected hit on our hands. We're two seasons in and going strong." "Better cut the budget, then."
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Aug 4, 2023 17:00
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honestly it’s amazing how the trailer of HQ made it seem like it was cringe as hell but its really one of the best animated shows ive seen. Like goddamn the work they did with Joker. At first i was annoyed they kept making Bats the butt of the joke but then its like oh… he is that actually damaged. The Harley/Bruce episode was really really sweet. Also Ivy/Harley having their own relationships ups and downs while a tad rough here and there did build up to something.
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Aug 4, 2023 17:01
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Megillah Gorilla posted:I'd like to know why it dropped like it did. That happens a lot. The way plenty of shows are made today they're ordered as "two seasons" but it's a single production run for the animators with a lot of lead time as a result. A third season or third cour doesn't always get that same lead time or budget because they have to get it out for the release date. Same happens in video games and movies. The need to keep to the release schedule for sequels means they rarely get the same development time as the first one.
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Aug 4, 2023 17:24
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I really like how Harley Quinn handles Clark Kent as a personality and performance such that it makes weird sense that nobody understands he's Superman. The voice, posture, and personality come together really well.
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Continuing its trend of being anime as gently caress MAWS features what is straight up a Gurren Lagann robot in the most recent episode.
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Aug 5, 2023 02:47
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Megillah Gorilla posted:I'd like to know why it dropped like it did. The animation for episode 4 of the current season seemed weirdly worse than the first three. Maybe I was just paying more attention to this one but it seemed off. The episode wasn't very good in general either, alas.
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Chinston Wurchill posted:The animation for episode 4 of the current season seemed weirdly worse than the first three. Maybe I was just paying more attention to this one but it seemed off. The episode wasn't very good in general either, alas. Yeah but it gave us Musk and Zuckerberg getting killed in space which, frankly, I need more of on television.
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Aug 5, 2023 04:49
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Warbird posted:Can I skip season 3 or so I just need to power through it? I don't know if Season 3 would feel as bad if you're not stuck waiting week-to-week. The first few episodes are rough and too manic, but once you hit the Joker episode you're basically home free. Probably not worth skipping unless you're really not feeling it, in which case skim the episode summaries and skip to Episode 6 and see if that works for you. Also I'm embarrassed to admit that the Clark Kent disguise worked on me, I missed the name drop and didn't catch that it was him until he tried to power up during the end of the episode. The jokes this episode weren't as strong, but the sight gags were great and there was a lot of funny stuff in the background at the convention. Parakeet vs. Phone fucked around with this message at 05:25 on Aug 5, 2023 |
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Warbird posted:Continuing its trend of being anime as gently caress MAWS features what is straight up a Gurren Lagann robot in the most recent episode. The gay French gorilla and gay German brain were unexpected but surprisingly charming
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I didn't like how quickly the drama between Clark and Lois got resolved. Seemed like it should have taken at least a few more episodes. Still, wasn't a bad episode. Though I was surprised at the near complete lack of a sentient antagonist.
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TheKingofSprings posted:The gay French gorilla and gay German brain were unexpected but surprisingly charming yea that was cute. I like this show a lot e: whoa there's a crossover between the Justice League and RWBY? I only know what that is because of the hbomberguy video but that's a big get for a youtube animation channel
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Mantis42 posted:yea that was cute. I like this show a lot There are four.
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what's the deal with adventure time post season 5 or so, which i when i last watched it. i think i stopped somewhere in the gigantic 52 episode 5th season. now i check and there are 10 seasons and possibly a bunch of offshoots/miniseries. was there a drop off in quality? does this all need to be watched in order?
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The show does become slightly more serialized and actually explains a lot of its mysteries (mostly in satisfying ways) as it goes on. The spinoffs are a gag show (Fiona and Cake) and a set of basically epilogue specials called Distant Lands.
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I probably need to revisit Adventure Time now that I'm not twelve years old
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Mantis42 posted:yea that was cute. I like this show a lot WB is absolutely seeing what value they can get out of what is probably rooster teeth’s only property with any value
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roomtone posted:what's the deal with adventure time post season 5 or so, which i when i last watched it. i think i stopped somewhere in the gigantic 52 episode 5th season. I really love the progression Adventure Time takes throughout the show. It’s a huge tonal shift but I think it works well because the show decided to actually age with its audience. Granted, I was 21 when it came out, but I can imagine an eight year old loving it and then sticking with it until the end because it matured with them over a decade. It really gets into the nitty gritty of everything and has permanent plot developments. It lets itself get sad and weird and existential. And I think it does it gradually so it’s not super jarring. The biggest tonal shift is when Penn Ward stepped down and Adam Muto took over, but the former never totally left the show. (And if you’ve seen Midnight Gospel, you’d know Ward likes to get extremely existential himself.) But no, I don’t consider AT to have a drop in quality at any point in its run. But plenty of people disagree.
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Seasons 4-7* of Adventure Time are imo the peak, especially 6, which is just a loving phenomenal season of television. It never has any kind of severe drop in quality, but after that I do feel like it doesn’t reach the same highs quite as consistently and towards the very end the story/lore progression does start to feel somewhat fanfic-y compared to before. Fantastic finale, though. *Note that they bizarrely retroactively changed when the seasons began and ended for 7-9 for some reason, so originally “Preboot/Reboot” was the season 7 finale/8 premiere but now it’s season 8 eps 12-13
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Adventure Time definitely changes what it is over time, pretty severely, so it's natural for a lot of people who liked what it initially was to drift away from it. I feel like Adam Muto has a thing for emotionless inscrutability that I don't like, and the show kinda gets rigid and brittle as it shifts from being a zany world full of countless wonders to something with a fixed and limited cast. Also the Finn gets a boner episodes still feel gross to me.
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mutantIke posted:I probably need to revisit Adventure Time now that I'm not twelve years old And now that the episodes aren't being released in the stupidest possible manner. The show made Steven Universe's release schedule look sensible. Two great shows that I just ended up bouncing off of because of how erratic they were.
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TheKingofSprings posted:WB is absolutely seeing what value they can get out of what is probably rooster teeth’s only property with any value They've basically given up on Gen:Lock, haven't they? (Note, not blaming them. Yikes.)
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Gen Lock season 2 was bad in a way where I'm certain that they were intentionally trying to kill the show.
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MokBa posted:Yeah but it gave us Musk and Zuckerberg getting killed in space which, frankly, I need more of on television. I'd prefer if we just didn't give them any attention at all.
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Arc Hammer posted:Gen Lock season 2 was bad in a way where I'm certain that they were intentionally trying to kill the show. I have not looked into it too much but the main takeaways I heard was "the villain is trying to stop climate change" and "promotes suicide."
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