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LeFishy
Jul 21, 2010
With all the fan and BG3 chat going on I thought I’d ask how difficult the fan replacement is.

For reference I’ve done the joycon stick swap and used to do other fixes but that was so long ago I’ve forgotten so I’m not a complete beginner but I’m out of practice.

This delta fan is just ruining the atmosphere of the dang game!

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Your Computer
Oct 3, 2008




Grimey Drawer

tuyop posted:

You probably have the lovely delta fan. You can check in settings > system

If it’s delta, you can improve things a lot by swapping it out. There’s an ifixit kit for that

i looked and i do :negative: is this bad...? i bought it during the sale so it's very recent but i guess it was old stock or something?

Cowman
Feb 14, 2006

Beware the Cow





Your Computer posted:

i looked and i do :negative: is this bad...? i bought it during the sale so it's very recent but i guess it was old stock or something?

Nah, the delta fan is supposedly a bit louder than the other fan but the difference is pretty tiny. AFAIK there's no evidence to suggest that there's a significant difference or that it's worth replacing the fan unless you just happen to have the right ears to where you hear that specific frequency better.

Edit: I forget the video but it was posted way back in the thread. Some sound people did a test and found there was minimal difference that could be attributed to error in the setup rather than the different fans.

VVV Pretty much this yea VVV

Cowman fucked around with this message at 22:35 on Aug 6, 2023

homeless snail
Mar 14, 2007

Specifically, it's got a bit more of a higher pitched whine. The other fan is still noticeably loud at full blast. It's not a hard replacement but idk how much it's actually worth it outside of like laboratory conditions.

LeFishy
Jul 21, 2010

homeless snail posted:

Specifically, it's got a bit more of a higher pitched whine. The other fan is still noticeably loud at full blast. It's not a hard replacement but idk how much it's actually worth it outside of like laboratory conditions.

I think I have the right/wrong ears unfortunately. I wish I had another real life steam deck around to compare with but man it’s just the worst.

I can hear coil whine and cat scarers and bats and all that sort of thing too.

Extra annoyingly I had Bg3 running at 11w tdp earlier and it was making slightly less noise but I can’t find the right combo of settings that made that happen anymore. Back to full whine.

Giggy
Jan 22, 2010
Any advice on installing nexus mods on the deck. I got BG3 and was hoping to browse mods for it. I know certain games are easier for installation/running than others.

I was wondering if the file transfer tool would include mod files as well?

Suburban Dad
Jan 10, 2007


Well what's attached to a leash that it made itself?
The punchline is the way that you've been fuckin' yourself




LeFishy posted:

With all the fan and BG3 chat going on I thought I’d ask how difficult the fan replacement is.

For reference I’ve done the joycon stick swap and used to do other fixes but that was so long ago I’ve forgotten so I’m not a complete beginner but I’m out of practice.

This delta fan is just ruining the atmosphere of the dang game!

It's extremely easy. Ifixit has a guide.

RandolphCarter
Jul 30, 2005


ZIGfried posted:

It does, my buddy got caught in trying to use the touch screen a number of times. I find it isn't so bad if you're expecting it. I prefer controller for combat because the radial menus are all set up in game. It's also better for dialogue. M+K is better in the overall looting and exploring areas.

I think I might prefer controller. Anyway, even if your using a keyboard BG3 will pull up the virtual keyboard whenever you go to type, pretty annoying.

sigher
Apr 22, 2008

My guiding Moonlight...



homeless snail posted:

Specifically, it's got a bit more of a higher pitched whine. The other fan is still noticeably loud at full blast. It's not a hard replacement but idk how much it's actually worth it outside of like laboratory conditions.

I swapped for a quiet fan and it was totally worth it. The high pitched whine was definitely noticeable when the fans kicked in. It's not the biggest deal, but with the quieter having the speakers loud enough drowns out the fan noise but with the higher pitched fan it was definitely noticable.

Your Computer
Oct 3, 2008




Grimey Drawer
if i just remove the fans altogether i'll have the quietest steam deck of all

Hammer Bro.
Jul 7, 2007

THUNDERDOME LOSER

How does one turn off the automatic off-hand attacks on Baldur's Gate 3?

All of the internet guides say how to do it on a PC, but the UI isn't the same on the Steam Deck.

Annath
Jan 11, 2009

Batatouille is a great and funny play on words for a video game creature and I love silly words like these
Clever Betty

Hammer Bro. posted:

How does one turn off the automatic off-hand attacks on Baldur's Gate 3?

All of the internet guides say how to do it on a PC, but the UI isn't the same on the Steam Deck.

Unequip the offhand weapon? If you're not gonna attack with it there's no reason to have it right?


But it might be a toggle in the "spellbook" - non-casters have their toggleable features in there, like Karlach's Great Weapon Mastery or whatever that lets her take a penalty to attack for a bonus to damage.

Kefa
Jul 14, 2023

Your Computer posted:

i feel like people have widely differently expectations and limits which can be really frustrating

like i've never seen anyone else mention how hard the fans are running as a downside but for me it's just too loud and i get distracted from the game. i would rather the game looked completely potato but ran silently tbh but those are my limits i guess

For me it was Elden ring. It’s impressive that the deck can run it but the frame rate is not stable at all and locking it to 30 adds a poo poo ton of input lag. All this in additional to the text being barely readable due to its size. And of course the black bars because 16:10 is not supported.

And yet so many people seem to love it on the deck and even recommend it to others whereas I feel like there are lots of other games better suited for the deck.

Beve Stuscemi
Jun 6, 2001




It’s consistently like the top 5 played game on the deck.

That list is weird though, GTAV is constantly in there

Rupert Buttermilk
Apr 15, 2007

🚣RowboatMan: ❄️Freezing time🕰️ is an old P.I. 🥧trick...

Just got BG3, downloading it now (150gb :negative:). I just know I'm going to be re-scrolling through all of these BG3-on-deck posts that I haven't been paying attention to up until now.

Beve Stuscemi posted:

It’s consistently like the top 5 played game on the deck.

That list is weird though, GTAV is constantly in there

Since mid-March, when I bought GTAV, I've played almost every night, and have almost 700 hours into it. The online (with friends) is absolutely perfect and I am not the least bit surprised that it's up there.

Runs great on the Deck, too.

Beve Stuscemi
Jun 6, 2001




I don’t “get” GTA online. I’ve tried a few times and it’s basically me wandering around while I get ultra-murdered by people with way better gear than me.

homeless snail
Mar 14, 2007

okay now imagine youre the other guy, whos destroying people because he spent so much time and money to get the good stuff

njsykora
Jan 23, 2012

Robots confuse squirrels.


Let's be honest, mostly money if you're the kind of person who's hanging around the starting area to grief new players.

Commander Keene
Dec 21, 2016

Faster than the others



Beve Stuscemi posted:

I don’t “get” GTA online. I’ve tried a few times and it’s basically me wandering around while I get ultra-murdered by people with way better gear than me.
Honestly this seems to be the experience with every PvP online game and is a large part of why I almost exclusively play single-player games, most of the few exceptions being like when some of my friends tried to get me into Monster Hunter and I played exclusively with them.

Beastie
Nov 3, 2006

They used to call me tricky-kid, I lived the life they wish they did.


My high rear end was extremely surprised to see that Deck in Dock was able to do its thing without being plugged into an outlet.

Funniest trouble shooting scenario in a while

Upsidads
Jan 11, 2007
Now and then we had a hope that if we lived and were good, God would permit us to be pirates


Ally has been handling bg3 like a champ on its 15 watt mode most stuff medium to high but when I try the wizardry of the amd upscaling thing it looks weird so keeping that off.
I have a friend on the deck and I'm keeping an eye out for any tips. It's nice that larian gives a poo poo about handhelds. They did a good job considering on the d2 on switch

Science_enthusiast
Dec 2, 2018

TECH(no) WOMBLE
Anyone playing BG3: is there a way to lower the resolution? For me it is locked at native (or 1080p if i change thr aspect ratio). I wanted to try knocking the resolutiin back to see if the decks fsr is better than Larians. I have managed to get the battery to about 2.5 hours with power draw capped at 9- anyone managed to get any better?

Atoramos
Aug 31, 2003

Jim's now a Blind Cave Salamander!


Really my biggest issue with BG3 is the poor FSR and if that somehow gets fixed up it'll be great. I tried out the default Dark Urge background character, and the dragonborn details look pretty bad at a distance when outlined.

Your Computer posted:

i looked and i do :negative: is this bad...? i bought it during the sale so it's very recent but i guess it was old stock or something?

I don't think it's a new vs. old thing, seems completely random. I swapped mine out when I upgraded to a 2tb drive because I heard such good things, the prior fan hadn't really annoyed me and while the new fan still does get a bit loud I think it's a bit of an improvement so I don't regret doing the thing. You can check my recent posts ITT about the process, but generally it wasn't too difficult.

Bumhead
Sep 26, 2022

Kefa posted:

For me it was Elden ring. It’s impressive that the deck can run it but the frame rate is not stable at all and locking it to 30 adds a poo poo ton of input lag. All this in additional to the text being barely readable due to its size. And of course the black bars because 16:10 is not supported.

And yet so many people seem to love it on the deck and even recommend it to others whereas I feel like there are lots of other games better suited for the deck.

It's fun to see how folks mileage varies and where they draw their own lines on performance.

I think it's absolutely wild that a handheld device can run Cyberpunk and Red Dead Redemption 2 in a totally playable fashion.

But at 30-40fps with the fans going wild? Not for me. That type of stuff just pushes my personal tolerance of what's a good experience. This years Dead Space remake was a good example. It's Verified on the store and regularly mentioned as a good experience on Deck, but I could never get it to a state where I was happy with the performance and it made the Deck run really hot and loud. That stuff is just about disruptive enough to impede my enjoyment of a game.

My tastes lean more old school anyway so it's a fairly moot point for me. My biggest joy with the Deck has been running a lot of classic PC games from the 90's and early 2000's on handheld hardware, which will never fail to impress me. Running modern AAA games on the Deck is one of those curiosities that I think is objectively really cool to see happening, but that's not my use case for the machine.

Rupert Buttermilk
Apr 15, 2007

🚣RowboatMan: ❄️Freezing time🕰️ is an old P.I. 🥧trick...

Beve Stuscemi posted:

I don’t “get” GTA online. I’ve tried a few times and it’s basically me wandering around while I get ultra-murdered by people with way better gear than me.

I only play in private sessions with my friends :shrug: we deal with 0 griefers and don't grief anyone.

There has been so much content added to online that it's turned into a pretty great experience. There is an insane amount of content.

- casino heist
- cayo perico tropical island heist
- doomsday heist (my favourite)
- dr dre set of missions
- 5 smaller apartment heists
- something like 50+ races
- 50+ smaller jobs
- company jobs
- motorcycle club jobs

Plus, my friends and I decide on a 'theme' every night we play, and go and dress accordingly, which can also include specific vehicles that we'll buy, too.

GTA Online is the perfect sandbox game that I've always wanted.

I might have a different opinion of it if I'd played it for ten years, but that'd only be "it's great, but I've played it all to death". And I had bought GTAV on launch back in 2013 and had played online for a few months (then sold my 360 and didn't touch the game again until this year); there used to be nothing to do, so if that's someone's last time trying it out, I recommend going back in.

I'm not even a car guy, I know poo poo-all about them in real life, and GTA Online has me checking out all sorts of rides, as if I knew what I was talking about outside of the game.

Rupert Buttermilk fucked around with this message at 11:09 on Aug 7, 2023

Mr Phillby
Apr 8, 2009

~TRAVIS~
Yeah gta online can just be fun co-op gta, you do not have to engage with random players at all if you dont want to.

Ratchet and Ckank update: finished the game, was having some issues here and there. I'm playing through the ng+ challege mode atm, skipping cutscenes and generally rushing seems to give me more crashes, especially around setpiece sections involving portals.

Was running low on disc space tho and playing off the battery is definitely a bad idea.

One issue was kinda funny, the game would drop to an absolute crawl, resolution would lower drastically, single digit fps. At the same time the systems fans would turn on full. Then suddenly the game eould go back to 40fps, and the fans would just stop completely. Then the whole cycle would repeat. This thankfully only happened with the dynamic resolution option enabled and when the deck wasn't plugged into power.

Happy Noodle Boy
Jul 3, 2002


Your Computer posted:

if i just remove the fans altogether i'll have the quietest steam deck of all

has anyone done a liquid cooled mod yet

Beve Stuscemi
Jun 6, 2001




Your Computer posted:

if i just remove the fans altogether i'll have the quietest steam deck of all

Mod valid above the arctic circle only

Truga
May 4, 2014
Lipstick Apathy

Happy Noodle Boy posted:

has anyone done a liquid cooled mod yet
hell yeah bolt that 2kg radiator to the handheld :v:

Nefarious 2.0
Apr 22, 2008

Offense is overrated anyway.

pop your deck in ziplock bag and take it to the bottom of the pool

Hammer Bro.
Jul 7, 2007

THUNDERDOME LOSER

Annath posted:

Unequip the offhand weapon? If you're not gonna attack with it there's no reason to have it right?

But it might be a toggle in the "spellbook" - non-casters have their toggleable features in there, like Karlach's Great Weapon Mastery or whatever that lets her take a penalty to attack for a bonus to damage.

I want to use it sometimes, but not every time I attack. As it stands if I haven't used my bonus action already, then a melee attack automatically adds the secondary attack. Even if the first hit was lethal :doh:

I see it listed in the spellbook as a common action but there are no toggles I can find.

Rupert Buttermilk
Apr 15, 2007

🚣RowboatMan: ❄️Freezing time🕰️ is an old P.I. 🥧trick...

Mr Phillby posted:

Yeah gta online can just be fun co-op gta, you do not have to engage with random players at all if you dont want to.

Further to this, the online portion really shines with at least one other person, though preferably 3 others. I play regularly in a group of 4, and we've gone through Valheim, Sea of Thieves, and then GTA online, which lasted WAY longer than the other games. In fact, the only reason we'd be slowing down with it is because we're all now into BG3.

There IS a bunch of single player content in gta online, but only 1 heist can be done solo, and a lot of the jobs take advantage of you having help.

Rupert Buttermilk fucked around with this message at 16:56 on Aug 7, 2023

Doctor_Fruitbat
Jun 2, 2013


The prison break heist is one of my favourite parts of any game ever. There's a great mix of content that sees everyone splitting off and doing different tasks, and having everyone converge on the airfield in an orgy of gunfire and explosions is just incredible.

compounded daily
Mar 29, 2007




:buddy:
Fun Shoe

Giggy posted:

Any advice on installing nexus mods on the deck. I got BG3 and was hoping to browse mods for it. I know certain games are easier for installation/running than others.

I was wondering if the file transfer tool would include mod files as well?

I can't speak for BG3 (yet) but I recently installed the Cinders mod for Dark Souls 3 and it takes a little bit more work than doing it on Windows, but mainly all I had to do was enable the setting to show hidden folders (it's literally two clicks) so I could copy the mod files to the game folder, and add a startup command to the game in its Steam settings. After that, it worked like a charm. Presumably, it shouldn't be much different for BG3, but I would see if someone smarter than myself has done it yet.

dreffen
Dec 3, 2005

MEDIOCRE, MORSOV!

Has anyone played Jagged Alliance 3 on the deck? How's it run?

jokes
Dec 20, 2012

Uh... Kupo?

On the deck, BG3 crashes on startup for me and I cant do anything about it

RandolphCarter
Jul 30, 2005


jokes posted:

On the deck, BG3 crashes on startup for me and I cant do anything about it

Have you tried switching to proton experimental?

I said come in!
Jun 22, 2004

jokes posted:

On the deck, BG3 crashes on startup for me and I cant do anything about it

Use proton experimental

Beastie
Nov 3, 2006

They used to call me tricky-kid, I lived the life they wish they did.


I don't consider myself to be a big "Halo Guy" but having the MCC in a portable with minimum loving around needed and solid controls loving rules.

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lostleaf
Jul 12, 2009

dreffen posted:

Has anyone played Jagged Alliance 3 on the deck? How's it run?

It runs well except the text is kind of tiny. Might not be a problem for those with good eyes but I need to keep my reading glasses on for the game.

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