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Lpzie
Nov 20, 2006

right up till the end, unemployment will be at record lows. do the smart thing, save money, and dump it all overseas.

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net work error
Feb 26, 2011

Mustached Demon posted:

eh fab tech moves slower than you think, not like we'll see 450mm wafers anytime soon

China is all in on RISC V so I assume that's the future. I also don't know anything about CPU 's.

Pittsburgh Fentanyl Cloud
Apr 7, 2003


no lube so what posted:

also automation. people like mold makers got paid well before cnc because you have to be smart plus have dexterity. not everyone could do it. the byproduct would allow machine to replace people making widgets.

There's an episode of How It's Made with a dude in Italy making a brass pasta extrusion die and the amount of work that goes into it, real manual work, is insane.

Tsitsikovas
Aug 2, 2023

spacemang_spliff posted:

democrats controlled both branches of congress and the whitehouse when this passed lol

on a more srs note these triangulating bastards, Id guess, did this to to appease and back off the republican revolution...that happened anyway the next year. oh lol lol lol

super sweet best pal
Nov 18, 2009

Willa Rogers posted:

Sure would be nice if anyone anywhere cared at all to do something about medicaid's clawbacks.

I thought goons didn't believe in inheritance.

LeeMajors
Jan 20, 2005

I've gotta stop fantasizing about Lee Majors...
Ah, one more!


Pittsburgh Fentanyl Cloud posted:

Medicaid has great outcomes for the majority of the population who need it, because when you're poor you'll go get help and regular preventative care when you know you're not going to get creamed by a copay.

My wife went in Friday for a diagnostic procedure. We got a nice letter from the hospital saying that the copay for facility services was $502.90 but we'd get a 12% discount if we paid day of service. The whole thing was incredibly distasteful and for a very large proportion of America, A $502.90 copay turns into "well, we need the car this month so I guess I'll go without and hope for the best." Medicaid eliminates those copay price shocks.

The real issue is that A> for profit nursing homes know how to take advantage of the system, and B> Medicare doesn't cover nursing home stays. So you've got to get on Medicaid to get that covered when you're old.

I was mostly being hyperbolic (because I know it absolutely essential for young impoverished folks), but it is absolute hellworld poo poo that we basically tell Olds "yes you paid for medicaid with your taxes and yes you'll get bargain basement care when you need it but we will take everything you ever earned and leave your families with nothing."

I thought I'd lost the capacity to be surprised and disgusted. Welp.

Pittsburgh Fentanyl Cloud
Apr 7, 2003


Tsitsikovas posted:

on a more srs note these triangulating bastards, Id guess, did this to to appease and back off the republican revolution...that happened anyway the next year. oh lol lol lol

Clinton also trashed the welfare state for once and for all in 1996 and got nothing out of that either. lmao.

Mustached Demon
Nov 12, 2016

net work error posted:

China is all in on RISC V so I assume that's the future. I also don't know anything about CPU 's.

Risc v isn't tool tech, it's more like a manufacturing standard like the standard pallet or something

Pittsburgh Fentanyl Cloud
Apr 7, 2003


super sweet best pal posted:

I thought goons didn't believe in inheritance.

The sort of people who have inheritances that flip the chess board aren't experiencing clawbacks, obviously

H.P. Hovercraft
Jan 12, 2004

one thing a computer can do that most humans can't is be sealed up in a cardboard box and sit in a warehouse
Slippery Tilde

Oglethorpe posted:

yeah you gotta be on the ball way before hospice or something

another fun one is that it's not uncommon for patients to immediately sign up for life insurance from the hospital after a cancer diagnosis, before it hits your records

RC Cola
Aug 1, 2011

Dovie'andi se tovya sagain
Fun reading about pfc gatekeeping manual labor as a computer touching landlord

Pittsburgh Fentanyl Cloud
Apr 7, 2003


Mustached Demon posted:

Risc v isn't tool tech, it's more like a manufacturing standard like the standard pallet or something

It's an architecture that's a target for software development in the same way that ARM or AMD64 are, which means there is a very real sea change in software if ARM or AMD64 (your standard PC) are obsoleted by China jumping on RISC-V.

Pittsburgh Fentanyl Cloud
Apr 7, 2003


RC Cola posted:

Fun reading about pfc gatekeeping manual labor as a computer touching landlord

I was a broke-rear end manual laborer for most of my life

cope

Bar Ran Dun
Jan 22, 2006




Mustached Demon posted:

I'd be surprised if one chips act fab fully opens

Hillsboro OR. several large facilities are already open.

no lube so what
Apr 11, 2021

Pittsburgh Fentanyl Cloud posted:

There's an episode of How It's Made with a dude in Italy making a brass pasta extrusion die and the amount of work that goes into it, real manual work, is insane.

Tool & die guys would get paid $5-7 in the 60's. that's like present day computer toucher wages

now they get paid like $25-35/hr

Pittsburgh Fentanyl Cloud
Apr 7, 2003


no lube so what posted:

Tool & die guys would get paid $5-7 in the 60's. that's like present day computer toucher wages

now they get paid like $25-35/hr

My uncle was a tool and die designer for Red Devil in NJ in the 1960s-1980s

glad he's dead so he doesn't have to see how things went to poo poo

Mustached Demon
Nov 12, 2016

Bar Ran Dun posted:

Hillsboro OR. several large facilities are already open.

Thought the Intel one was before the chips act

Tsitsikovas
Aug 2, 2023

RealityWarCriminal posted:

https://www.factcheck.org/2014/01/medicaid-estate-recovery-program/

Q: Does the Affordable Care Act allow states to confiscate the estates of seniors on Medicaid when they die?

A: No, but a 1993 federal law requires states to recover Medicaid costs for long-term care from the estates of deceased Medicaid beneficiaries over the age of 55.

lmao "the ACA actually doesnt do that, okay, because that thing already exists under a 20 year old law ALSO passed by the democrats tyvm"


Pittsburgh Fentanyl Cloud posted:

The real issue is that A> for profit nursing homes know how to take advantage of the system, and B> Medicare doesn't cover nursing home stays. So you've got to get on Medicaid to get that covered when you're old.

this is precisely my point wrt more socialism. As it stands we instead have this massive intricate web of if-then statements that's pretty drat intractable. The shameful part is everyone in power has to somehow get private capital involved. Our two parties both offer solutions that severely break things, which of course allows members of each to point to the other and say "see? we told you it'd be stupid"

Medicaid is great for what it is, but it doesnt solve the problem of why the copays are so drat high to begin with. And why theyre allowed to get that high. The ACA, which seems to basically be what the Clinton 94 plan was, is producing the same ballooning costs. Becuase turns out when you write health law with providers and insurers in mind, you get this.

net work error
Feb 26, 2011

Mustached Demon posted:

Risc v isn't tool tech, it's more like a manufacturing standard like the standard pallet or something

Bar Ran Dun
Jan 22, 2006




Mustached Demon posted:

Thought the Intel one was before the chips act

there are many things happening some pre and some post chips in Hillsboro and as I’ve said previously it’s happening extremely quickly. they are throwing up quite large facilities across several big companies.

net work error
Feb 26, 2011

Superconductor talk was stealing the thunder I guess.

https://www.reuters.com/business/energy/us-scientists-repeat-fusion-power-breakthrough-ft-2023-08-06/

quote:

Aug 6 (Reuters) - U.S. scientists have achieved net energy gain in a fusion reaction for the second time since December, the Lawrence Livermore National Laboratory said on Sunday.

Scientists at the California-based lab repeated the fusion ignition breakthrough in an experiment in the National Ignition Facility (NIF) on July 30 that produced a higher energy yield than in December, a Lawrence Livermore spokesperson said.

Final results are still being analyzed, the spokesperson added.

Lawrence Livermore achieved a net energy gain in a fusion experiment using lasers on Dec. 5, 2022. The scientists focused a laser on a target of fuel to fuse two light atoms into a denser one, releasing the energy.

That experiment briefly achieved what's known as fusion ignition by generating 3.15 megajoules of energy output after the laser delivered 2.05 megajoules to the target, the Energy Department said.

In other words, it produced more energy from fusion than the laser energy used to drive it, the department said.

The Energy Department called it "a major scientific breakthrough decades in the making that will pave the way for advancements in national defense and the future of clean power."

Scientists have known for about a century that fusion powers the sun and have pursued developing fusion on Earth for decades. Such a breakthrough could one day help curb climate change if companies can scale up the technology to a commercial level in the coming decades.
Reporting by Lavanya Ahire in Bengaluru and Doina Chiacu in Washington; additional reporting by Yana Gaur; Editing by Leslie Adler and Diane Craft

RadiRoot
Feb 3, 2007

Willa Rogers posted:

Cool world when millionaires don't have to repay their PPP "loans" but granny's estate gets looted bc she was a stupid old who was poor.

hey how about get a job?

RealityWarCriminal
Aug 10, 2016

:o:

Pittsburgh Fentanyl Cloud posted:

There's an episode of How It's Made with a dude in Italy making a brass pasta extrusion die and the amount of work that goes into it, real manual work, is insane.

That's a manufacturing job

net work error
Feb 26, 2011

How It's Made rules

Mustached Demon
Nov 12, 2016


can't wait to see how the fossil fuel industry astroturfs another anti nuclear campaign

Assuming fusion actually can get commercialized before we finish murdering ourselves

nomad2020
Jan 30, 2007


I'm the supervisor just out of frame jogging up with a hardhat for the most progressive president.

F_Shit_Fitzgerald
Feb 2, 2017




https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tor7UT8bue4

Danann
Aug 4, 2013


https://twitter.com/SilingWu/status/1650883036299264001

the diablerization will continue until the derisking is done

gradenko_2000
Oct 5, 2010

HELL SERPENT
Lipstick Apathy
https://twitter.com/GaribaldoValdez/status/1685071314531328000

https://twitter.com/DrSarahLiu/status/1687862344519671808

https://twitter.com/michaelbilleaux/status/1688343834776760321

Mustached Demon
Nov 12, 2016

Danann posted:

https://twitter.com/SilingWu/status/1650883036299264001

the diablerization will continue until the derisking is done

chip manufacturers went from ATHs in 2021/2022 into a Florida sink hole in like a quarter

mawarannahr
May 21, 2019

Pittsburgh Fentanyl Cloud posted:

There's an episode of How It's Made with a dude in Italy making a brass pasta extrusion die and the amount of work that goes into it, real manual work, is insane.
don't most new ones use Teflon?

Shear Modulus
Jun 9, 2010



Mustached Demon posted:

chip manufacturers went from ATHs in 2021/2022 into a Florida sink hole in like a quarter

not nvidia

Pittsburgh Fentanyl Cloud
Apr 7, 2003


RealityWarCriminal posted:

That's a manufacturing job

And there's no guarantee it'll be well-paid, here or in Italy

anonumos
Jul 14, 2005

Fuck it.

RealityWarCriminal posted:

Q: Is the sky blue?

A: No, but a 1993 federal law defined the color of the sky as azure.

FULL ANSWER

gently caress you.

Pittsburgh Fentanyl Cloud
Apr 7, 2003


mawarannahr posted:

don't most new ones use Teflon?

I'm not a die guy so I don't know

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ChPk9HPZjt0

Justin Tyme
Feb 22, 2011


Love our byzantine rear end healthcare laws, can't just have health insurance, you gotta read through several 165 page document to get an idea of what insurance covers to "pick" your plan then get charged thousands of dollars anyway.

"How much healthcare will you need in the future?" Bitch I dunno hopefully none!

anonumos
Jul 14, 2005

Fuck it.

RadiRoot posted:

hey how about get a job?

That's what the PPP loans were for!

LaserPrinter69
Sep 6, 2022

"I did a perfect print job, grown men were coming up to me and saying with tears in their eyes, 'Sir, it was a perfect print job.' What they're trying to do to your favorite printer (ME!) is a disgrace."

For how long though...

If it generated for minutes it could power a subdivision. If it generated power for microseconds, it might be enough to illuminate a small LED for as long as it takes a person to blink

LaserPrinter69 has issued a correction as of 02:19 on Aug 7, 2023

RealityWarCriminal
Aug 10, 2016

:o:

probably HDPE. teflon wears too easily

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anonumos
Jul 14, 2005

Fuck it.

LaserPrinter69 posted:

For how long though...

If it generated for minutes it could power a subdivision. If it generated power for microseconds, it might be enough to illuminate a small LED for as long as it takes a person to blink

I'm not sure they have it connected to a steam turbine yet. They're just measuring energy output, mostly heat, vs. electricity used to power the lasers.

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