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Scratch Monkey posted:They should install a ball pit to make up for the lackluster service The ball-pit requires premium connectivity and full self-driving enabled my guy  (ninja edit: also don't let your kids around the ball pit; its cameras aren't good at recognizing little pedestrians)
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Olympic Mathlete posted:
 there's a Mazda dealership near Pittsburgh that had an extremely similar vibe. They were the only ones who could get the color we wanted, and the vehicle itself has been great, but buying from them was a terrible experience including a prolonged battle to get them to remove Kahu.
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BuckyDoneGun posted:Well, no they don't, according to Volvo at least. Ah. Disheartening. Catastrophe posted:You walk out to you car and find this jammed into it I'd rather not, thanks. Boaz MacPhereson posted:
Tesla. Scratch Monkey posted:They should install a ball pit to make up for the lackluster service I hate that I understand this reference.
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Similar to LoJack.
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It is aparently some sort of lojack like service
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Scratch Monkey posted:It is aparently some sort of lojack like service https://www.spireon.com/news-and-events/kahu-transforms-to-connected-car-provides-new-revenue/ Yeah I totally get why the OP wouldnt want this thing anywhere near their car
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brb, controlling my 1985 Volvo 240 with my smartphone, looking forward to navigating 3 menus deep to push a button then receiving a message on the screen telling me to manually roll down the windows
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Turn those cranks Oh yeah ...keep turning, I'm almost there
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Jailbreaking cars. Also, I thought we learned (from Chrysler) over a decade ago to airgap the gently caress out you MCU. https://www.thedrive.com/news/tesla-hackers-find-unpatchable-jailbreak-to-unlock-paid-features-for-free Anyways, eat poo poo Elon
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I'm sorry your service is taking longer than expected. Please enjoy an extra hour in the ball pit.
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What everyone else said. It's marketed as a theft retrieval device, usually comes with a tacked-on charge (which they admittedly didn't fight us on waiving while we were pushing for complete removal) and is often installed poorly/dangerously by tapping into the existing wiring. In some cases it can cause a parasitic draw that will leave you stranded. In our case we got very lucky and it was "just" an OBD-II passthrough connector. At first they absolutely refused to sell us the car without Kahu, stating that it was part of their contract with the supplier or whatever. After we threatened to walk they quickly folded. We watched them remove it and won't be going back to that dealer. Fifty Three fucked around with this message at 18:26 on Aug 8, 2023 |
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Fifty Three posted:is often installed poorly/dangerously by tapping into the existing wiring. 
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CAT INTERCEPTOR posted:https://www.spireon.com/news-and-events/kahu-transforms-to-connected-car-provides-new-revenue/ "Offered exclusively through used car dealers" is the biggest red flag i have ever seen. *free ice cream* oooh *offered exclusively through used car dealers* oh gently caress no. *come play with puppies and kittens* Sounds great *offered exclusively through used car dealers* nope. nuh uh.
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Galler posted:The first article I found when trying to find more info on Kahu demonstrates this well: https://www.hagerty.com/media/archived/dealership-installed-nightmare-2016-ram-1500-sport/ lol oh come on
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Code Jockey posted:lol oh come on I know right? They couldn't like wrap this around a fuel line or something? 
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Catastrophe posted:You walk out to you car and find this jammed into it Bad news: Your car has been hit by a mortar bomb. Good news: Your car didn't blow up! Bad news: You need to wait for EOD to blow up your car.
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Disgruntled Bovine posted:Bad news: Your car has been hit by a mortar bomb. You have 30 minutes to move your car. You have 10 minutes. Your car has been mortared. You have 10 minutes to move your still intact car. EOD has detonated the mortar. You have 10 minutes to remove the debris.
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Can't park there, mate
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Bro? https://twitter.com/TakuroSpirit/status/1689633282877472768?t=3-7mB_zBdse9LAshnUvDMg&s=19 Catastrophe posted:They've come to the right place. Two pedals and still hosed it all up.
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Olympic Mathlete posted:Bro? It does look sleek E: facialimpediment posted:New insurgent plumbing truck just dropped: The Door Frame fucked around with this message at 15:21 on Aug 10, 2023 |
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The Door Frame posted:It does look sleek yeah I like the look of it if I saw it driving like that? lol
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The Door Frame posted:It does look sleek poo poo look like a Hotwheels
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Olympic Mathlete posted:poo poo look like a Hotwheels Reminds me of the '05 Cherokee I saw driving with a smashed-in tailgate, rocking lovely Amazon-brand LED tails that lit up an extra +1 lumen brighter to indicate brake.
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Galler posted:The first article I found when trying to find more info on Kahu demonstrates this well: https://www.hagerty.com/media/archived/dealership-installed-nightmare-2016-ram-1500-sport/ Once again, as a former mobile electronics installer, I am offended by the quality of this "work". Olympic Mathlete posted:Bro? Odds on the headlights also being covered, or at least useless blue HIDs? I hope some cop on a bad day just rips him up one side and down the other.
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Reminds me of those terrible blackout headlight covers from the late 90s
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OBAMNA PHONE posted:Reminds me of those terrible blackout headlight covers from the late 90s I'm glad people wisened up to using vinyl film.
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Sometime between 2am last night and this morning, I lost the last key that works in my Saturn Vue's ignition (I have another that only opens the doors (and no fobs...)). I spent hours searching for it because it has to be someplace around my house, but I got really fed up with the whole thing. Anyways, now my Vue starts with a screwdriver and I'm gonna keep it that way.  The blue resistor simulates/bypasses the "passkey" security system that's inside the lock cylinder. Black circle is the electromechanical stuff that the lock cylinder tailpiece would normally turn, but now anything can turn it. Don't steal it ok?
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OBAMNA PHONE posted:Reminds me of those terrible blackout headlight covers from the late 90s You want people to SEE your brake lights? NERRRRRRRDDDDD
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sleepy gary posted:Sometime between 2am last night and this morning, I lost the last key that works in my Saturn Vue's ignition (I have another that only opens the doors (and no fobs...)). I spent hours searching for it because it has to be someplace around my house, but I got really fed up with the whole thing. Anyways, now my Vue starts with a screwdriver and I'm gonna keep it that way. Wire that resistor to the harness with a hidden switch, and they won't be able to steal it. Or just buy another ignition cylinder and key. Or just take the ignition cylinder to a locksmith and see if it's one they can disassemble to read the keyways. Or see if the dealer or a locksmith can cut a key from the VIN - you'll need proof of ownership. Ford, for example, used to do it but decreed that they wouldn't keep records for keys for cars older than 10 years, but apparently the locksmiths have access to a database.
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Darchangel posted:Wire that resistor to the harness with a hidden switch, and they won't be able to steal it. Yeah I'll tidy it up and add a switch. But I'm not doing any of the other things! If I wasn't able to bypass passlock I would have gotten a new cylinder+key, as I think that's actually the cheapest option.
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Passlock is a loving joke anyway. Especially THAT implementation - you could still start it with a screwdriver, without the resistor, if it's long enough to press the 2nd switch inside the ignition switch (the tip of the key presses it).
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randomidiot posted:Passlock is a loving joke anyway. Especially THAT implementation - you could still start it with a screwdriver, without the resistor, if it's long enough to press the 2nd switch inside the ignition switch (the tip of the key presses it). No, in my case that wouldn't work. The BCM needs to read a resistance. I took the passkey module out of the ignition cylinder assembly. The way it works is that when the ignition cylinder is in the "on" position, a small magnet is rotated into position over a hall effect sensor which puts the resistance into the circuit. The BCM does not care if the resistance is in circuit the entire time, though, so bypass is very easy. When I have some time I'll replace the hall sensor with a toggle switch, or maybe just totally bypass it, but for now my 4.4k resistor is doing the trick.  This is the passkey module from the ignition cylinder assembly. Hall effect sensor on the left. edit: The car WILL start without this resistance being sensed, but turns itself back off in a few seconds if the resistance doesn't appear in the circuit. sleepy gary fucked around with this message at 04:09 on Aug 13, 2023 |
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PPkMzphYLGI I really want to get into playing Cars against Humanity now
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sleepy gary posted:No, in my case that wouldn't work. The BCM needs to read a resistance. I took the passkey module out of the ignition cylinder assembly. The way it works is that when the ignition cylinder is in the "on" position, a small magnet is rotated into position over a hall effect sensor which puts the resistance into the circuit. The BCM does not care if the resistance is in circuit the entire time, though, so bypass is very easy. Ah, okay, different version of Passlock than what I'm used to. I thought they'd dropped the hall effect sensor by 2004 for the most part (obviously I don't know what year your Vue is, but my 06 Ion didn't have the hall effect switch).
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Ether Frenzy posted:I just finally read that goon in the Tacoma well thread and you really don't see that sort of posting anymore. Link?
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