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Charlz Guybon posted:It was enforced with another pub a few years ago. About 20 years ago a cheapo supermarket chain bulldozed a listed building in the middle of the night in a town near where I live now and they were forced to rebuild it the same.
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DreddyMatt posted:Local government making noises about making it be rebuilt brick by brick using the same materials and not allowing a change of use for the site. This does actually happen: https://www.theguardian.com/lifeandstyle/2021/mar/21/rising-from-the-rubble-london-pub-rebuilt-brick-by-brick-after-bulldozing
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smellmycheese posted:Meanwhile, in Ireland… If you consider the difference in population between Ireland and the UK, this would be like if the UK had a surplus of £700bn+
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smellmycheese posted:Meanwhile, in Ireland… About right. We are somehow flush with surpluses and "rainy day funds" but little is being invested back into the nation, especially with regards to social housing. Slight error in the article which says rents in Dublin are €1,800, which is technically correct but applies to the county of Dublin, not the city. Recent estimates have the average rent in the city at €2,500 per month. https://www.dublinlive.ie/news/dublin-news/average-rents-now-over-2500-26915683.amp Many have been priced out of my area which is half the reason I moved out of the country as a whole. Average rent in my old county in February was €1,550 per month. Combine high cost with absolutely atrocious living spaces and a lack of protections for renters (even compared to the UK) and there isn't much point of being there, regardless of how "great" the economy is apparently doing.
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Necrothatcher posted:This does actually happen: Wow, good things are possible (Loosest definition of 'good', but you gotta take what you can get I suppose)
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smellmycheese posted:Meanwhile, in Ireland… If you read the article, it's basically lots of corporation tax from being a semi tax haven. That isn't something that can scale up to a country with more than ten times the population, and if other countries pursue the same strategy it quickly becomes a race to the bottom.
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A government running a surplus is always a bad sign. It means it's taking more from the economy than it gives, and is ensuring that the majority of debt is born by private individuals who don't have nearly as much protection or bargaining power. Governments don't have to go to payday loan companies, after all. It's a fundamentally parasitic conception of rule.
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Aug 8, 2023 11:50
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Guavanaut posted:Landlords and speculators have probably done more cumulative urban property damage than any air force of mad bombers. So the developers demolished every brick of the building except the facade, then went "Oh no! That's not safe, sorry, have to knock it down before it collapses." Edit: dodgy developers usually get away with fires and the like because they can just tell the police they were somewhere else at the time and they have multiple witnesses, you can't prove anything, but occasionally they get done. Like the guys who ringed some protected trees in Sandbanks so they could rip out the dead wood and build on the site, only the judge was apparently a big believer in Tree Law and sentenced them on the probability of guilt because there was nobody else with any motive to do it. Small Strange Bird fucked around with this message at 12:15 on Aug 8, 2023 |
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Aug 8, 2023 12:09
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I just assume that dodgy developers have a reliable chap that they go to in these cases who sorts the building out for them in return for a cash payment.
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Like, I can't imagine a millionaire property developer personally nipping out at 3am to splash petrol around a building: that's exactly the sort of job you'd delegate to a shady but reliable underling.
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Darth Walrus posted:A government running a surplus is always a bad sign. It means it's taking more from the economy than it gives, and is ensuring that the majority of debt is born by private individuals who don't have nearly as much protection or bargaining power. Governments don't have to go to payday loan companies, after all. It's a fundamentally parasitic conception of rule. Yeah, exactly this. A government running a large surplus should be pilloried by the public - at the very least you could just give the cash back to the poorest in your society and have a positive feedback loop of poor people having money to spend on goods and services which makes jobs in those industries to pay more taxes etc etc. Just sitting on money like a dragon is perverse behaviour for a national government.
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Gort posted:Yeah, exactly this. A government running a large surplus should be pilloried by the public - at the very least you could just give the cash back to the poorest in your society and have a positive feedback loop of poor people having money to spend on goods and services which makes jobs in those industries to pay more taxes etc etc. Just sitting on money like a dragon is perverse behaviour for a national government. Don't you worry, it will be "redistributed" to those in "need"(relatives). 
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Mourning Due posted:The problem as I see it is, Britain is a country on the cheap. We're not a Waitrose, a Tesco or even an Iceland. We're a Poundstretcher. i think that's an insult to Poundstretcher, at this point the country feels more like 
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University conservatives society gala ball E: "This isn't Google"/"Don't post your search history" etc DreddyMatt fucked around with this message at 14:41 on Aug 8, 2023 |
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Darth Walrus posted:A government running a surplus is always a bad sign. What? No. That's silly. A government earning more than it is spending is not a bad thing, and it is certainly not always a bad thing. It can be a bad thing, particularly if that surplus goes on for a prolonged period of time when it could be better invested elsewhere. In Ireland's case it should definitely (imo) be spent on housing and the infrastructure connecting Dublin to the elsewheres of the island, but it's certainly better to have it than to not.
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It’s certainly a drat better position to be in than its northern cousin
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Nilbop posted:What? No. That's silly. Again, it's bad because it means that it's almost certainly not servicing its fair share of the country's debt (unless you're in the very unlikely situation where both the government and the entire private population are running a surplus). National economies are mostly closed circuits, and the majority of debt being private is bad on an individual level (because dealing with predatory debt all on your lonesome sucks), and on a macro level because it makes overall debt-servicing for the country more expensive and makes the country's economy more brittle and vulnerable to economic shocks (because there's so many people who don't have savings to act as a safety net when things go sour for them).
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This Swedish summer of ours is pretty shite
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Tijuana Bibliophile posted:This Swedish summer of ours is pretty shite I was gonna do a foraging post but the only thing I've found this year is bilberries/european blueberries. Supply of those is excellent though! I found a spot where I could pick five liters in about half an hour, before I got too wet and went home. Tijuana Bibliophile fucked around with this message at 15:47 on Aug 8, 2023 |
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Blackberry crop is at least two weeks behind, I would reckon *chews grass stem meditatively, spits over fence*
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DesperateDan posted:Blackberry crop is at least two weeks behind, I would reckon I did find some wild blackberries a week or so ago but I always feel somewhat cheated by them. When you've had Rubus arcticus, you can't help but think of blackberries as pound store Rubus arcticus by comparison
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Payndz posted:Edit: dodgy developers usually get away with fires and the like because they can just tell the police they were somewhere else at the time and they have multiple witnesses, you can't prove anything, but occasionally they get done. Like the guys who ringed some protected trees in Sandbanks so they could rip out the dead wood and build on the site, only the judge was apparently a big believer in Tree Law and sentenced them on the probability of guilt because there was nobody else with any motive to do it. You could plot the whole thing and end up with a wild rear end sounding conspiracy theory (as twisto once mentioned the New York hip hop scene got fully into that sort of thing) but really it's just "when the people who own the property aren't the people who have to live there, you get a bunch of extremely perverse incentives that all add up" again and again and again.
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Tijuana Bibliophile posted:I did find some wild blackberries a week or so ago but I always feel somewhat cheated by them. When you've had Rubus arcticus, you can't help but think of blackberries as pound store Rubus arcticus by comparison Lol. Oneupmanship over blackberries.
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NotJustANumber99 posted:Lol. Oneupmanship over blackberries. Typical entitled millennials and their blackberries. In my day we defeated Hitler with just a Nokia 3210 and we were glad to have it.
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NotJustANumber99 posted:Lol. Oneupmanship over blackberries.
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I'm here to bat for the white bark raspberry, whose flavour profile is the basis for blue raspberry
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NotJustANumber99 posted:Lol. Oneupmanship over blackberries. Aren't those raspberries? My parents tell me it's a crazy raspberry year, they have picked like 10 liters from the woods or more.
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Failed Imagineer posted:If you consider the difference in population between Ireland and the UK, this would be like if the UK had a surplus of £700bn+ When you think of it, Ireland couldn't have done this without their version of Brexit (exit from Britain)
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Nenonen posted:When you think of it, Ireland couldn't have done this without their version of Brexit (exit from Britain) Ireland was doing just fine chugging along as a member of the EU and offering a low tax environment for big American companies to base themselves in Europe. It didn’t need its neighbour and old oppressor to implode and shoot itself repeatedly in the foot but it has certainly provided plenty of lols
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His Divine Shadow posted:10 liters The ampere is of course the correct SI unit to use for currants.
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Guavanaut posted:Using volumetric units for berries somehow seems even more perverse than using cups for flour and sugar. Watt?
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Lmao https://twitter.com/trashy_fiction/status/1688904101508308992?s=46&t=m_nNbkNoHG4lLitcpyHReg
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Heartwarming stuff I love everything about this story. Sold 2 weeks before it burns down and is demolished within 72 hours of the fire being extinguished. Absolute scenes.
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Guavanaut posted:The ampere is of course the correct SI unit to use for currants.
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serious gaylord posted:Heartwarming stuff I wonder what their plan is? Looking at Google earth is an odd setup, pub an old farmhouse off on its own up a long track/lane. Like I can't see it getting permission for a big money making housing estate? So was it just for an individual mansion? Hope someone gets proper(ty) hosed over.
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It wasnt even a listed building. Its mad.
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serious gaylord posted:It wasnt even a listed building. Its mad. You could say it was listing on its own 
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NotJustANumber99 posted:Very odd it wasn't listed. might have been shored up with a brown envelope full of cash
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