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My understanding is that they can promote themselves, but not their projects. Like sure, we can chat about what they like to eat, but not about the movie they were shooting.
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xeria posted:to this: Read that last tweet like it was J.D Salinger in Bojack Horseman.
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Argyle posted:The general public is also very aware of the ever-changing and increasingly lovely streaming landscape, and how the streaming business model is affecting their viewing habits. Older network shows move from platform to platform, Netflix notoriously cancels their own shows no matter how passionate the fans are. What does most watched mean? Most first episode ‘impressions’? How many people actually finished the season(s)? Every time I finish a popular game on a console I pop an achievement that’s like ‘21% of players achieve this’ and it’s just finishing the basic campaign. Everyone is multitasking and nobody wants to admit it, so they obfuscate the public data. All the metrics are made up and everyone is lying to themselves.
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Aug 7, 2023 07:18
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God I would loving love for these streaming services to have to open up their books and show the numbers. It's almost as if... there should be federal regulation on this kind of thing.
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Any entity that so much as receives a single cent in tax relief or any kind of grant or anything from the government should be forced to make their books transparent. You want public money, okay, well show us what you do with money first.
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Its comical because California is supposed to be the land of regulation (and I guess we kinda are - RIP to my menthol cigarettes). We'll create massive needed legislation to regulate and protect workers - and then carve out massive exceptions for the entertainment industry.
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Related apparently South Korea's actors' union is upset with Netflix because they won't meet with the union over, you guessed it, higher pay.
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Aug 7, 2023 23:18
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drat, when even the S Korean union is upset that's something.
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Aug 8, 2023 02:33
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Let's GOOOOOOOOOOOOO https://www.vulture.com/2023/08/vfx-workers-vote-to-unionize-at-marvel-for-the-first-time.html 
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Aug 8, 2023 03:00
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Yes! Do it! gently caress yes!
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It's important to note that this is only the on-set VFX crew, a 52-person crew that does things like wrangling data, managing production and the like, that has petitioned to unionize under IATSE. This doesn't touch any of the (very horribly overworked) CGI artists, who badly need union representation.
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Aug 8, 2023 03:23
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The most amusing outcome would be Disney playing hardball, and we end up with a Fantastic Four film with the SFX of Roger Corman but with none of the charm.
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Aug 8, 2023 03:24
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Dawgstar posted:Related apparently South Korea's actors' union is upset with Netflix because they won't meet with the union over, you guessed it, higher pay. I'm no expert, but it looks like Netflix is compensating for the lack of future shows from America with international shows, and a lot of them are from South Korea. Surely they can't gently caress around with the unions in multiple regions at once.
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Aug 8, 2023 08:08
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It feels like netflix has been loading up on non-american content for a while though
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ilmucche posted:It feels like netflix has been loading up on non-american content for a while though Netflix has to make European produced content in order to comply with certain EU rules for grants and other tax purposes, so they have that content pipeline to use while the US productions are stopped.
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ilmucche posted:It feels like netflix has been loading up on non-american content for a while though Yeah, I watched a K-drama called My Name the other day and it was 'Netflix original' which the Korean union might understandably and well they should mean 'if we're doing this for you we deserve a bigger cut' and I'm going to assume because it's Netflix they absolutely do.
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Keep in mind that "Netflix Original" might mean "produced by Netflix", or it might mean "Netflix is the first company to have bought the rights to this foreign-produced thing in your market". Better Call Saul, for example, was marketed as a Netflix Original in Canada. But, yeah, Netflix has had a long-running strategy of leaning heavily on international diversification as a way to differentiate itself from other streaming services and just better penetrate foreign markets. It's probably a happy coincidence from their point of view that that also makes them more resilient to a US strike, but it's really cool for Korean creators that this is the first time they really have leverage over Netflix and can bargain for more.
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Jerusalem posted:Yeah I think it was earlier in this thread that somebody posted a tweet noting that the issue for the streamers in releasing their numbers is that it will reveal either: Not defending the streamers but (as I understand it) their viewing numbers are a lot harder to directly translate to revenue than other industries. Like, movies can directly point at ticket sales, and broadcast TV can charge more for ads on higher-viewed shows, but the streamers just have a # of subscribers and a # of views per episode and it's not immediately obvious how those connect apart from no-brainers like a new season of Stranger Things dropping and subscriber numbers spiking the same month. Squid Game could have huge view numbers but it didn't necessarily make them more money if it's just people who were idly scrolling by. I remember hearing somewhere that for Amazon Prime, the only number they care about is "first show watched after subscribing" which I see the logic of but completely fails to account for existing customers who only subscribe for the Boys (or whatever) but don't bother unsubbing in between seasons. And Amazon in particular has a harder job than anyone else connecting views to subs because I'd bet almost everyone subs for the two-day shipping and the video is basically an afterthought This is certainly a more charitable take than they're due though, especially for the also-rans like Peacock/Paramount/etc. who probably aren't far from realizing they were making more money selling their stuff to Netflix. Also doesn't justify screwing over the residual-holders: they already did their job getting a ton of eyeballs on content for you, it's your job to figure out how to make money from it after paying them what they're owed
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Aug 8, 2023 20:17
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My favorite part about the two-day shipping is that it usually takes like six days even if you live in the same loving city as the company. But at least it's cheaper than paying for shipping on a per-item basis. But yeah, I subscribed for that and not their video, which I almost never use.
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Aprops of nothing, I looked up a plot synopsis of that Crater movie Disney pulled a while back just to see what that was about, and apparently the ending to that movie involves a successful strike action to demand better working conditions from some comically evil conglomerate.
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MechanicalTomPetty posted:Aprops of nothing, I looked up a plot synopsis of that Crater movie Disney pulled a while back just to see what that was about, and apparently the ending to that movie involves a successful strike action to demand better working conditions from some comically evil conglomerate. They've pulled a lot of new (as in less than a year old) movies and shows off the service in the past few months and pretty much everyone involved with their creation seems to think it's retaliation
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MechanicalTomPetty posted:Aprops of nothing, I looked up a plot synopsis of that Crater movie Disney pulled a while back just to see what that was about, and apparently the ending to that movie involves a successful strike action to demand better working conditions from some comically evil conglomerate. There has to be a German word for this.
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LividLiquid posted:My favorite part about the two-day shipping is that it usually takes like six days even if you live in the same loving city as the company. But at least it's cheaper than paying for shipping on a per-item basis. Where are you that you find the shipping times that bad? I can get free same day shipping on alot of stuff.
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Ironhead posted:Where are you that you find the shipping times that bad? I can get free same day shipping on alot of stuff.
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DarklyDreaming posted:They've pulled a lot of new (as in less than a year old) movies and shows off the service in the past few months and pretty much everyone involved with their creation seems to think it's retaliation Oh yeah, in fact I'm pretty sure I heard the exact same thing a while back, I just find it bitterly ironic given the circumstances.
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Sonic the Scab https://twitter.com/discussingfilm/status/1688989252762103813?s=46&t=8qKeRz1MPwpnqaU9WYBJgg
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Like, what would they even be doing? Shooting plates?
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Gaz-L posted:Like, what would they even be doing? Shooting plates? Yeah, probably anything that involves just the life sized Sonic, Tails and Knuckles dolls they use as stand ins for the CG shots. Sonic 2 had a lot of shots to it that had functionally no human actors on set, so I imagine they can get away with the same stuff for Sonic 3 until the strike is over.
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I mean, the Sonic films would be better with no humans anyway. So not a big loss.
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Mordiceius posted:I mean, the Sonic films would be better with no humans anyway. So not a big loss. Wow, major Jim Carrey erasure here.
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nine-gear crow posted:Wow, major Jim Carrey erasure here. The exception that proves the rule. Also, Jim Carrey is, for all intents and purposes, a cartoon character.
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Mordiceius posted:The exception that proves the rule. What about his lackey/boyfriend?
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bunnyofdoom posted:What about his lackey/boyfriend? He may have been highly detailed, but Knuckles was actually an animation construct.
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It's Sonic's 30th Anniversary! And... Regalingualius posted:Sonic the Scab
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nine-gear crow posted:Yeah, probably anything that involves just the life sized Sonic, Tails and Knuckles dolls they use as stand ins for the CG shots. Sonic 2 had a lot of shots to it that had functionally no human actors on set, so I imagine they can get away with the same stuff for Sonic 3 until the strike is over. In fact, this is a big part of why the action in those movies look pretty good: there is a lot of actual real locations, with real practical explosions and effects to mix in with the cgi creatures.
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Pinwiz11 posted:It's Sonic's 30th Anniversary! And... This is a direct assault on the Sonic Teaches Marxism/Socialism videos.
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External Organs posted:This is a direct assault on the Sonic Teaches Marxism/Socialism videos. i'm gonna need a link to those
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Soonmot posted:i'm gonna need a link to those I don't have TikTok but I've seen them linked. They're like this: https://www.tiktok.com/@aflcio/video/7220876552790166827 And my bad, they are explicitly about unionizing lol Edit: that appears to be a repost of the video by the AFL-CIO
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External Organs posted:I don't have TikTok but I've seen them linked. They're like this: Is it me but does the idea of teaching Marxism on a site owned by the Chinese Communist Party (ByteDance will deny this but...come on) seem a bit redundant? Also the idea of the AFL-CIO being on it? Seems like bad optics
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