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EasilyConfused posted:That sentence could be read two different ways. Post/username
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I wouldn't be surprised if one was able to buy a rusty Russian nuke from the Strategic Rocket Forces for a pallet of vodka before this war kicked off.
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Aug 9, 2023 02:32
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Gonna get wild in next few years when any scammer can have voice AI call tens of thousands of people an hour impersonating the president, Mr beast, the local fire dept, etc and engage them in passable conversation. Wonder if unknown calls will have to be auto blocked by default.
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Aug 9, 2023 02:38
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McGavin posted:Chemistry student? A disgruntled biology student could do way worse. Everyone is looking for explosives, nobody's looking for prions or viruses. Prion diseases scare the poo poo out of me. My good friend works in biomed stuff and her PhD research was focused on prion diseases in humans (the same lab does a lot of work on CWD and Mad cow aka BSE), and it's terrifying how resilient and easily spread they can be. CWD is a good example, in the right conditions a patch of soil with CWD prions can last for years. They survive freezing, and it can take hours of 900°F temperatures to denature the prion protein. We are lucky AS gently caress that there isn't (yet) a variant of a human prion protein disease with the properties of CWD circulating. It would cause Stephen King's The Stand superflu levels of devastation. .... And there's already some preliminary research that shows that monkeys can catch the disease with prolonged exposure to CWD proteins. 
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Mederlock posted:.... And there's already some preliminary research that shows that monkeys can catch the disease with prolonged exposure to CWD proteins. I would simply not expose the monkeys to CWD proteins.
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Aug 9, 2023 02:49
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Isn't it super hard for prion diseases to spread because unlike an evolved bacteria/virus they have no contagion mechanism?
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The Lone Badger posted:Isn't it super hard for prion diseases to spread because unlike an evolved bacteria/virus they have no contagion mechanism? Typically, yes, lots of them require direct contact with brain tissues. But CWD is unusually prolific as it sheds prion proteins at really high rates via saliva, feces, blood, urine, etc.. It still requires a contact transmission or fluid exchange, but due to the very long lived and robust nature of the proteins and the difficulty of detection, CWD stands out as an unusually pathogenic prion disease. And a prion disease with those characteristics in humans would be.. frightening.
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Aug 9, 2023 02:59
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Stultus Maximus posted:It's way easier to make explosives through common lab chemicals than breed a virus. You don't need to start with a live virus. Besides, there are loads of other things you could do with access to a decent lab and a death wish. Biological poo poo is far more terrifying than explosives.
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Aug 9, 2023 03:12
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The Door Frame posted:I feel like a lot of really bad things are really easy if you're bold enough. Full sized, fully loaded tanks of oxygen and acetylene can be acquired for a few hundred bucks if you have a vehicle with something resembling an enclosure for them A welding truck loving exploded at a construction site across the street from my apartment the other week. That's some poo poo you don't want to play stupid games with for sure.
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Aug 9, 2023 04:13
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Acetylene can spontaneously explode (as a monopropellant) if stored in the wrong kind of tank.
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McGavin posted:You don't need to start with a live virus. Besides, there are loads of other things you could do with access to a decent lab and a death wish. Biological poo poo is far more terrifying than explosives. I do believe getting the sequences for the really spicy stuff is controlled.
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Kazinsal posted:A welding truck loving exploded at a construction site across the street from my apartment the other week. That's some poo poo you don't want to play stupid games with for sure. My brother is a journeyman welder and has been in the field for about 20 years. He has some terrifying hazmat and safety stories from welding shop oopsies, like someone bleeding nearly empty tanks inside the shop while another equally illiterate someone started grinding nearby, or being assigned to cut up scrap diesel fuel lines with a torch that he had been assured up and down were drained but were not, or man vs. milling machine, man vs. dragline cable and on it goes. When folks say that safety regulations are written in blood, they ain't kidding.
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Aug 9, 2023 07:21
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Did someone say acetylene?! https://www.nzherald.co.nz/nz/fatal-massey-explosion-he-didnt-realise-he-had-made-a-bomb/VEFCQZWHW55WU7LCFX2JGUID3U/
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Aug 9, 2023 07:32
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Aren't you supposed to cap off liquid-fuel lines and flood them with inert gas (from your arc-welding gear) before you start work on them? Merely being drained isn't good enough.
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Aug 9, 2023 07:34
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The Lone Badger posted:Aren't you supposed to cap off liquid-fuel lines and flood them with inert gas (from your arc-welding gear) before you start work on them? Merely being drained isn't good enough. In some ways drained is actually worse than full - liquid just burns, gas can cause an explosive mixture.
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Aug 9, 2023 07:36
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An optics factory in Moscow just blew up. Probably a coincidence or a backed up toilet.
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Just when you thought the Optics of the war couldn't get any worse
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Vincent Van Goatse posted:An optics factory in Moscow just blew up. something else is having a spicy time in the moscow outskirts https://twitter.com/Sota_Vision/status/1689184117093527553 i love the lady at 0:15 giving no fucks whatsoever ed: looks to be the same thing actually? mine says that there was previously a hit on an optics factory, but other tweets indicate that the factory is in Sergievy Posad Qtotonibudinibudet fucked around with this message at 09:35 on Aug 9, 2023 |
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Aug 9, 2023 09:30
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Somebody vented too much acetylene.
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I told you putting the smoking room next to the acetylene storage was a bad idea!!!
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Vincent Van Goatse posted:An optics factory in Moscow just blew up. It appears to have made a Spectacle of itself.  Much like the country. 
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Aug 9, 2023 10:53
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The government is proffering the illusion that it was a boiler explosion.
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This has got to be a really big deal, right? That's a specialized production facility that you wouldn't have more than a few of, yeah?
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Aug 9, 2023 12:11
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What were they boiling, Hydrazine?
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Antigravitas posted:What were they boiling, Hydrazine? Possibly 122mm shells?
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Kesper North posted:
when you order a kilo of dangerous chemicals you get put on a watchlist, when you order a train car of dangerous chemicals you get a train car of dangerous chemicals
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Aug 9, 2023 13:15
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Despite the subject matter that's actually a great photo.
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Aug 9, 2023 13:29
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Antigravitas posted:What were they boiling, Hydrazine? Looking at the videos of the aftermath made me really wonder what they were doing there. I don't think a drone could have carried that much explosives and I can't think of why an optics factory would have that much of energetic stuff present. Seemed more like a car bomb.
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I assume making high-end glass and coatings uses some wacky chemicals, if you told me it required them to have some big tanks of volatile stuff I wouldn't doubt it. e: I mean, also ~Russia~ so if you said it was actually an off the books munitions storage facility I could believe that too.
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UPDATE:fatherboxx posted:Apparently there was a ... small pyrotechnics factory in a nearby building that provided Russian military with fireworks for various celebrations
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Saukkis posted:Looking at the videos of the aftermath made me really wonder what they were doing there. I don't think a drone could have carried that much explosives and I can't think of why an optics factory would have that much of energetic stuff present. Seemed more like a car bomb. I think there was an artillery ammo plant nearby.
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Fearless posted:My brother is a journeyman welder and has been in the field for about 20 years. He has some terrifying hazmat and safety stories from welding shop oopsies, like someone bleeding nearly empty tanks inside the shop while another equally illiterate someone started grinding nearby, or being assigned to cut up scrap diesel fuel lines with a torch that he had been assured up and down were drained but were not, or man vs. milling machine, man vs. dragline cable and on it goes. When folks say that safety regulations are written in blood, they ain't kidding. Shop work is really dangerous if you think about it for too long, but honestly some of the most dangerous things are buffers, belts, wire wheels, and grinders. We get so comfortable around them, it's easy to forget that they're spinning death machines that crave human blood and can spontaneously become shrapnel if you're unlucky However safe I personally feel when working with an OA torch, it is amazing how dangerous the stuff actually is. A lot of modern acetylene regulators have a special flashback valve and a limiter at 15 PSI, because at about 16 PSI, it's enough pressure to auto-ignite and send flames back into the tank. Same if the tank isn't stood upright, liquid acetone can flow down the line, making the gas in those hoses very unstable and will also detonate. Or you could dent the tank and the gas collecting at the crack in the porous stone that acetylene permeates slowly turns the tank into an actual bomb. A lot of insurance companies offer big discounts for switching over to something stable, like MAP gas, because people will try to blow themselves up with a strange regularity, they don't need a comically unstable gas to make it any easier
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RoyKeen posted:I think there was an artillery ammo plant nearby. I wonder if NSA Wizard will get the black bag treatment before they ask why the gently caress he missed
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Antigravitas posted:What were they boiling, Hydrazine?
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AlternateNu posted:Remember that joke at the height of the war on terror that if the terrorists ever convinced a 90 year old lady to hide explosives in her wheelchair, we've already lost? The first case like this in the US will be against a post office, a bank, or a Planned Parenthood/similar office.
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The MOST asymmetric warfare.
Godholio posted:The first case like this in the US will be against a post office, a bank, or a Planned Parenthood/similar office. My moneys on a schoolboard meeting
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Aug 9, 2023 23:14
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children's hospitals are sadly pretty likely targets these days
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My moneys on a HOA meeting
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Jimmy Smuts posted:My moneys on a HOA meeting would it even be a crime?
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That Works posted:would it even be a crime? I wouldn't vote guilty.
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