Hi again, sorry if this isn't the correct thread, but this seemed maybe more fitting than the physical media thread in CD. What's a recommended 4k bluray player? I have a Sony UBP X700 and while it's worked for the most part, there's been a few movies here and there that it seems unable to play and I'm not sure if it's a disc or player issue, especially since the disc looks fine to my naked eye but I don't know how much that is worth.
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Samsung isn't a no go anymore but likewise with LG, I think you should only consider their OLED options. Failing that, its TCL/Hisense. Save them some money. Man, what the hell happened to Rtings? Nothing good can last forever.
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# ? Aug 10, 2023 01:21 |
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Tatsuta Age posted:parents fuckin love Samsung the frames in my experience They're thin and you can add specific colored bezels to match your house or style. Plus the whole it's art thing is cool if you really like art or decor. The only reason I didn't get one was because I'm picky with the picturevand went with an A95K instead. This was on one of the AD sites today and it looks really good. Ryuga Death posted:Hi again, sorry if this isn't the correct thread, but this seemed maybe more fitting than the physical media thread in CD. What's a recommended 4k bluray player? Panasonic seems to be the correct answer, the issue is that their player with Dolby Vision is $500. And the upgraded version with a better DAC is $1k. https://www.nytimes.com/wirecutter/reviews/best-4k-blu-ray-player/
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poemdexter posted:My parents are looking for a new TV around 65" and around 1600 dollars and either Samsung or LG if possible (not sure why but didn't press them on it). They are currently looking at Samsung - 65” Class S95B OLED 4K Smart Tizen TV - https://www.bestbuy.com/site/samsung-65-class-s95b-oled-4k-smart-tizen-tv/6502215.p?skuId=6502215. I haven't looked at TV's in years so I ask you humble thread peeps: is there any other TV in that range that is a better bang for buck or should they pull the trigger on this one? Samsung S95B is actually a solid choice. It's a QD-OLED panel and basically universally rated as the 2nd best TV model of 2022 (#1 being the only other QD-OLED panel that came out last year, a Sony that was like double the price). QD-OLED means it gets noticeably brighter than other OLED screens (which is a good thing because one of the downsides of OLED has been its lower brightness compared to LCD), so if your parents are okay with that price, then sure let them go for it. Downsides to the model are 1) No Dolby Vision and 2) more likely to develop burn-in more quickly (this was tested by RTings and a couple other places I think, and may be an issue with QD-OLED in general).
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# ? Aug 10, 2023 02:53 |
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Can someone explain what Dolby Vision actually does, and why not having it is a disadvantage? For context, our TV is just used for gaming and streaming (just Netflix, Disney and prime). I ask cos I'm gonna pick up an oled soon, and the Samsung one is currently top of my list.
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# ? Aug 10, 2023 09:06 |
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It basically takes over your TVs picture settings to give you the best image for that particular film
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# ? Aug 10, 2023 14:51 |
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That's one part of DV, but not necessarily the main part. This is all oversimplified (part because it's over my head, part to make it brief). There are two different types of HDR, static and dynamic. HDR10 is an example of static HDR, HDR10+ and DV are dynamic. The dynamic and static refer to the HDR metadata. You have a camera that captures in a wide dynamic range. That range has to be mapped to the master and given brightness values which is then tone mapped to the TV in question. So (all made up numbers), you have an HDR capture with a brightness range of 1,000,000 that may be mastered at 10,000 nits that's then tone mapped in a TV that's capable of 1000 nits. When the master is created, the dynamic range of the camera has to be mapped within the range of the master. So, you use quantization 0-999 is mapped to 1, 1000-1999 is mapped to 2, and so on. With static HDR, that means that mapping is constant for the whole movie. Now, what happens if you are in a dimly lit cave for a scene? You have a ton of headroom mapped to values that aren't in that scene. You basically lose brightness accuracy by using too coarse of a quantization in the darkest values because you don't need to represent the brightest values at all. The same can happen in reverse, you are in a super bright scene. There's nothing below a minimum brightness value in that scene, so everything you have mapped below that cutoff is wasted and can't be used to create further nuance in the scene. That's where dynamic metadata comes in. The quantization is adjusted on a per scene basis to make the best use out of the available dynamic range of the scene. You don't have anything above a certain brightness value in a scene? Then set a lower max value and use the full range to show what you do have, ditto in the case of a bright scene. It basically allows the output of the master to adapt to give the best dynamic range resolution for each scene in question. Now, Dolby Vision takes it one step further with tone mapping. Each device has a profile that defines the capability of the device so the dynamic metadata can be adapted specifically for the display capabilities that it's being shown on. Your panel clips above 768 nits? Then the dynamic range is adjusted such that the brightness never exceeds that. You do lose overall dynamic range resolution, but you don't get clipping. Side tangent, that's one of the advantages of the $500 Panasonic UB820 UHD blu-ray player. HDR10 stuff can be mastered to exceed your display's capabilities and you are at the mercy of the tone mapping of your display to ensure that stuff doesn't get clipped or crushed (on either end of the spectrum). That tone mapping can be really good with high nit displays or newer TVs with better processing, but it can also be not that great as well. The UB820 has the ability to set a display type (OLED, medium brightness TV, projector, and so on) and the player will apply its own advanced tone mapping to HDR10 content before the TV has a crack at it. So, if you have a movie mastered to 10,000 nits and there are a lot of highlights that are way beyond the ability of your 800 nit OLED, the player can reign some of that in before the TV tries to tone map, potentially increasing the quality of the HDR by eliminating clipping or increasing color resolution on the brightest highlights.
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# ? Aug 10, 2023 16:57 |
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codo27 posted:Man, what the hell happened to Rtings? Nothing good can last forever. Speaking of! our 49" Sony X900F kicked the bucket after only ~3-4 years I just dug around with the following in mind:
Questions!
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# ? Aug 10, 2023 23:05 |
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If you want to see crazy use of DV on OLED, the fire rifle scene in John Wick 4 looked insane on my C1.
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# ? Aug 10, 2023 23:08 |
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bitprophet posted:Speaking of! our 49" Sony X900F kicked the bucket after only ~3-4 years It sounds stupid, but it's worked for me a number of times . Think the thing just didn't manage well in the heat before I had AC.
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# ? Aug 10, 2023 23:37 |
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My X900E had the internal power supply board die like 2 years in, but it was stupid easy to replace and only cost like $80. If it's not damage to the panel or backlight, it's probably cost effective and easy to self repair.
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# ? Aug 11, 2023 00:17 |
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codo27 posted:Man, what the hell happened to Rtings? Nothing good can last forever. What's the problem?
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# ? Aug 11, 2023 00:23 |
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Cugel the Clever posted:Have you tried taking the back off and re-seating the cables? bull3964 posted:My X900E had the internal power supply board die like 2 years in, but it was stupid easy to replace and only cost like $80. If it's not damage to the panel or backlight, it's probably cost effective and easy to self repair. (FWIW the problem is that the picture's gone but everything else, including the backlight, is working; and a full power drain and factory reset didn't do jack either. so it does feel like one of the less critical components croaked.) bitprophet fucked around with this message at 00:36 on Aug 11, 2023 |
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It's all separate boards connected by ribbon cables. Some are pricier than others, but it's mostly barren inside these TVs.
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# ? Aug 11, 2023 00:37 |
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bull3964 posted:It's all separate boards connected by ribbon cables. Some are pricier than others, but it's mostly barren inside these TVs.
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bitprophet posted:So I see! Alas, reseating the cables we were able to even unseat (a few of them were in real tight) hasn't made a difference. So my original questions stand $999 65” Sony from Costco with their free extended warranty when you use their credit card (7 years total I think) Worth getting a membership for the cash back and purchase alone. Corb3t fucked around with this message at 02:44 on Aug 11, 2023 |
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codo27 posted:
Do you mean the obfuscation of the device lists (which aren't too hard to find once you know how), or how you have a limited number of reviews you can view before they block certain info on them?
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bull3964 posted:That's one part of DV, but not necessarily the main part. That's super helpful thanks. Although still not sure it outweighs the extra brightness that the Samsung provides compared to the LG sets. Is there much Dolby vision content being streamed by Netflix, prime or Disney? Looks like Sony doesn't support it for playstation 5, so not much of a concern there.
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Mister Facetious posted:Do you mean the obfuscation of the device lists (which aren't too hard to find once you know how), or how you have a limited number of reviews you can view before they block certain info on them? I went looking at soundbars (for my parents, dont judge me) and most of the review specifics were all paywalled.
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# ? Aug 11, 2023 11:57 |
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codo27 posted:I went looking at soundbars (for my parents, dont judge me) and most of the review specifics were all paywalled. I'm not the goon that's militant against soundbars
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# ? Aug 11, 2023 18:42 |
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Yeah, rtings paywalled everything that wasn't strictly TV, monitor, and headphone reviews. It's really dumb. You aren't shopping for these things that often that you should spend $10 /month on a subscription and it makes sourcing their site to give recommendations to other people super hard. I understand they buy their own poo poo and these reviews are time consuming, but that's just too aggressive.
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# ? Aug 11, 2023 18:50 |
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The Perfect Element posted:That's super helpful thanks. Although still not sure it outweighs the extra brightness that the Samsung provides compared to the LG sets. Is there much Dolby vision content being streamed by Netflix, prime or Disney? Looks like Sony doesn't support it for playstation 5, so not much of a concern there. Most of the stuff that's in HDR on Netflix and all the stuff that's in HDR on DIsney+ is Dolby Vision (Amazon is a mixed bag and sometimes things disappear for no reason.) AppleTV+ originals are all Dolby Vision. Peacock is mostly DV on their HDR content, but it can vary. Max supports DV. Disney especially is notorious for having DV on the stuff on their streaming site while all their disc releases have been HDR10 only. The HDR grades on Disney+ streaming have actually been better than physical releases due to it. DV support doesn't mean HDR10 isn't available though, it is. Anything that's in DV also supports HDR10, it's just that you'll have better image quality with DV.
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The Perfect Element posted:That's super helpful thanks. Although still not sure it outweighs the extra brightness that the Samsung provides compared to the LG sets. Is there much Dolby vision content being streamed by Netflix, prime or Disney? Looks like Sony doesn't support it for playstation 5, so not much of a concern there. It's all personal preference, and I don't know you, but probably your parents (and most people) care more about brightness than the difference between HDR10 and DV.
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# ? Aug 11, 2023 19:09 |
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Definitely a YMMV thing but I picked up the LG 55UQ80 for $150 at Costco. Their site says it's $350 so I'm not sure why it was so cheap. RTings rates it at 6.8 overall. This one has the IPS screen so viewing angles are great. This is my first 4k TV and while I didn't want to go this big I really couldn't pass up this pricing mistake.
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# ? Aug 12, 2023 20:19 |
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PC gaming on a TV with VRR it was recommended to cap the framerate just below the max, right? Was it 3 or 4? And should you use in game controls if available or a third party program to cap frames? Using Nvidia card.
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# ? Aug 12, 2023 21:35 |
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Arken_ca posted:PC gaming on a TV with VRR it was recommended to cap the framerate just below the max, right? For 120fps tv I do 117. I use riva tuner something something - search rtss, or just msi afterburner since it comes with it.
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# ? Aug 12, 2023 22:30 |
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98" TLC for $4k and free shipping. https://www.amazon.com/dp/B09NLJ8ZZS
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# ? Aug 21, 2023 19:46 |
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GreenNight posted:98" TLC for $4k and free shipping. As someone with a 77 that barely fits on the wall in my dedicated theater room, I can say that's an absurdly large TV goddamn.
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# ? Aug 21, 2023 20:54 |
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Boomers will buy it to watch Fox News/NewsMax/OANN on it at an absolute eye searing brightness level.
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# ? Aug 21, 2023 21:37 |
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I've put a 110 protector screen in my living room before, so I would absolutely be down for something that size at some point.
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# ? Aug 21, 2023 21:40 |
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KillHour posted:As someone with a 77 that barely fits on the wall in my dedicated theater room, I can say that's an absurdly large TV goddamn. I thought 77” would be big enough for any wall until I moved into my house.
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# ? Aug 21, 2023 21:41 |
Are we up to tvs that require tandem wall mounts side by side yet?
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# ? Aug 21, 2023 21:44 |
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I have a 120" projection screen in my living room, and I honestly think I could have gone up to the 150" screen without it being absolutely absurd.
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# ? Aug 21, 2023 21:45 |
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I'm helping a buddy build a wall with plywood backing to hang his new projection screen. I don't know the size but the loving box was 8 feet long.
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# ? Aug 21, 2023 21:48 |
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So I haven't bought a TV in like 10 years(I have a 55" Samsung 1080p) and it was like $1200 at costco when I bought it. Now I'm seeing Samsung 70" - TU700D Series - 4K UHD LED for $350 What the gently caress happened to make things so cheap, and is that a good TV? edit: I should probably read the whole OP Jaxyon fucked around with this message at 02:04 on Aug 22, 2023 |
# ? Aug 22, 2023 01:57 |
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Jaxyon posted:
Yields for larger glass sheets to cut panels from improved immensely, lowering costs. As far as budget TVs go ($600 or less), you're looking at TCL and Hisense. Samsung isn't really price, quality, or feature competitive these days except for their highest end stuff, which is kinda sad. Jaxyon posted:edit: I should probably read the whole OP I should probably update the OP Mister Facetious fucked around with this message at 02:13 on Aug 22, 2023 |
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GreenNight posted:98" TLC for $4k and free shipping. That’s a whole lot of TV — almost 4,100sq in of viewing area. Christ. 45PPI though
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# ? Aug 22, 2023 02:33 |
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Jaxyon posted:What the gently caress happened to make things so cheap, and is that a good TV? The nice poo poo like OLEDs or cutting-edge MicroLEDs are still more expensive.
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# ? Aug 22, 2023 02:46 |
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Question about LG's universal remote feature: It automatically synced with things like my sound bar and chrome cast when I first set those up. Today for the first time everything just stopped working on it. I've had an issue with the internet in my house but even after fixing it the controller still won't work with things again. I went into the menu for universal remote and it says everything is connected. Any ideas?
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# ? Jun 1, 2024 06:01 |
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Random thought: but I suddenly remembered that Nielsen Families used to be a thing. I can even remember rumors that so-and-so's family was a Nielsen family and it was treated like a prestigious secret as if our favorite shows would live and die by their whims. It's a funny idea to think back on now that all our TVs, phones, and apps are constantly reporting our viewing habits and there are numerous open source projects dedicated to stopping it. Meanwhile Netflix is notorious for cancelling everyone's favorite shows after one season because they didn't like the metrics. The future is weird.
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