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fridge corn posted:Any hot tips for throne of eldraine draft? Never played the set. Went in blind and came out with a sorta half knights/half food white/black deck. Have no idea what I'm doing hehe https://www.lordsoflimited.com/episodes/50-eld-takes-in-50-minutes-episode-130 Might be helpful. Of what I remember: - all color pairs and mono-colored decks are viable and competitive - identifying the open lane is thus mega important - black has the best removal (Bake Into a Pie) and the second best Black card is also removal (forgot the name), but then its commons become much more shallow so be wary if the color looks contested, you might not get what you want from it - the Mill deck with the Merfolk is a thing, however it was mostly a meme on Arena because back then there were only bot drafts and bots didn't pick the rando blue common highly at all, so you could end up with 4-5. On MTGO, where there was actual pod drafting, people contested it and it was much worse. However, this time around with people less attuned to the format, maybe it's a thing again? - there's a bunch of fun build-around rares and uncommons, e.g. of the latter Lucky Clover, and you can absolutely do funky decks (but maybe shouldn't the first time around) - speaking of Lucky Clover, if you copy e.g. the Adventure Counterspell, the copy will counter the opp's spell, then the actual card will have no target and fizzle, putting the Adventure creature into the GY instead of Exile to be cast later. Same goes for the Graveyard recursion Adventure, if you copy that with only once target in the GY, whoops the actual card fizzles. Generally be aware of how Adventure works (I wouldn't have been) - all Adventure combat tricks are super playable, but non-adventure combat tricks can ALSO be just what you need. For example mono-G aggro is a working deck but you really want a Trample trick to finish the game - always be aware of opp's open mana because they WILL have a trick, but of course if you have a re-trick it can be devastating, so look for opportunities to break combat in your favor - a pitfall of mono-G specifically is ending up with a top-heavy curve and no early drops, e.g. there's the hybrid Simic turtle that rewards costly spells, they don't like that one even though they love Simic because you can have super clunky hands and Just Die - aggro strategies work well, don't be afraid to go heavy on white critters + trick backup (that turn into more creatures) - the pro-white flier is disgusting in a format where mono-W can be a thing tho - never ever play the land that taps for Mardu mana but only for Knights - generally there's going to be a lot of good decks that end up with a 13-5 or 14-4 manabase, mostly mono but splashing good poo poo of a second color, and only one second color, please. Yes, that's 18 lands because e.g. your splash can be Bake Into a Pie (2BB) so you really want to draw that second Swamp. Ofc you don't go 18 lands on an aggro deck, but in an Izzet spells deck with heavy looting? Sure - speaking of that archetype, super uncommon and rare-dependent, don't go into it because you open an okay R or B "draw 2" payoff - if you want to go multicolor goodstuff, you CAN, probably with a Simic base (generally they like the archetype a lot but they are "gently caress around" players so maybe not the best newbie idea) - Rares that have BBB or other heavy color dependent casting costs are not a great first pick because it kinda forces you to go heavy on that color, and see above re: B being kinda shallow specifically, might not be the best idea - Syr Konrad is a mythic uncommon - creature size does matter, there's few big ones and lots of smaller ones that come a bit off-curve (because you often want to cast them after their Adventure), so a card like the 3 mana 3/3 (if you only spend a single color of mana on it) Artifact Creature is actually p good, or the 5 Mana 5/5 (if you were G adamant) - Golden Egg is a top pick because it allows you to do so, so much. Generally a lot of the artifacts are better than they seem because they turn on so many strategies, smooth out manabases, etc. I'm sure I forgot a few but those seemed the most memorable and relevant
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flatluigi posted:lotr premier should still be available, since they never retire the 'current set' yeah I took a look on the events calendar and that appears to be the case but... no quick draft for 2 weeks?!?! what are us slow brained people supposed to do in the meantime  **Oh just listening to all the new podcasts previewing the new set could probably take up a good chunk of it Starsfan fucked around with this message at 15:38 on Aug 15, 2023 |
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If anyone is looking for a fresh deck for Standard, I have been cruising so far with Orzhov toxic. Currently in Diamond 1 Untapped link I guess I can just flop my Untapped profile out here for everyone to make fun of. Only super brutal beat has been Temporary Lockdown, exiles dudes and Hives.
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I'll give it a spin next time I'm doin' dalies. Didn't have a good source of white handy.
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Hammer Bro. posted:I'll give it a spin next time I'm doin' dalies. actually I hear handies can be a good source of white 
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https://twitter.com/MTG_Arena/status/1691515167111000064?s=20 quote:Due to the nightmares they may cause, we will be proactively banning the #MTGEldraine cards below in Historic Constructed formats: Still legal in historic brawl, but not the same. Also say in a reply there's one more pre-emptive ban coming on an as-yet unrevealed card. Judgy Fucker fucked around with this message at 19:46 on Aug 15, 2023 |
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I'm beginning to think the normalization of Bo1 over Bo3 has become a problem.
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Judgy Fucker posted:
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Judgy Fucker posted:
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Did an Eldraine Premier https://www.17lands.com/draft/c28748fbd7064f40a46e82b1d76bdc4c Tried following the advice I listened to earlier, and ended up actually in the deck I've heard a lot about : Simic. Blue was more open than green, but I got a few Adventure spells with an Innkeeper as excellent synergy. I got a bit of a controlly rampy thing going on, tapping and countering until I got enough resources to play big stuff to hopefully overwhelm them. Or, you know, play the luckiest card ever in the Pack 2 Oko, just fitting my colors perfectly, no big deal.  Happy to hear if some of my evaluations in the spur of the moment were dead wrong - there's not too much data on 17lands right now, and I feel like the numbers are inflated a lot by veterans returning, everything seems to win way high!
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Simply Simon posted:I listened to this yesterday: Oh yeah, definitely gonna listen to this. Has the draft preorder bundle always only included 2 draft tokens and 1 sealed? I thought you used to get 3 draft tokens but perhaps I'm misremembering
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The limited bundle used to include the mastery pass which had a "free" draft token early on in the leveling. They separated that into its own bundle
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fridge corn posted:Oh yeah, definitely gonna listen to this. It was 3 draft tokens/1 sealed when it was at the $50 price point and included the mastery pass (ex: Dom U, BRO). It changed to 2 draft/1 sealed when it moved to $25 and they split off the mastery pass into its own $15 thing (ex: ONE, MOM, LOTR)
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I still find the $50 pack bundle amusing. Couldn't be bothered to add anything to it to make it worth more than just buying the packs straight besides one free mythic. Whoopie doo.
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CatstropheWaitress posted:I still find the $50 pack bundle amusing. Couldn't be bothered to add anything to it to make it worth more than just buying the packs straight besides one free mythic. Whoopie doo. It's slightly discounted. For the same price you would get 9,200 gems, which would get you 46 packs.
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Judgy Fucker posted:It's slightly discounted. For the same price you would get 9,200 gems, which would get you 46 packs. yeah, it's the same price per pack as buying $100 worth of gems. Which according to the game is the best deal.
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Wake up, babe. New Generous Gift just dropped.
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Kashuno posted:WotC are a bunch of cowards Most Arena players have never played a format with those cards, and there's not really a format equivalent to historic in paper. Really annoying they won't even give us like a drat week to play with these things. Of all the nurso crap allowed in the format it's pretty weak to not even give these a novelty chance. Arena meta and plays might sort some crap out around those cards to avoid the problems they had before. If not, then they can hit the bail button. Also are these unplayable cards something we still have to get in packs? Lol at giving us banned cards
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Khanstant posted:Most Arena players have never played a format with those cards, and there's not really a format equivalent to historic in paper. Really annoying they won't even give us like a drat week to play with these things. Of all the nurso crap allowed in the format it's pretty weak to not even give these a novelty chance. Arena meta and plays might sort some crap out around those cards to avoid the problems they had before. If not, then they can hit the bail button. the prebanned cards show up in non-draft packs after you collect all the other cards in the set, and show up normally (and are playable!) in limited formats also they did try to just let cards live on arena when they didn't preban brainstorm and it was as miserable as expected
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I feel like this is the perfect place for some Alchemy Nonsense- ban the cards in Bo1, keep them legal in Bo3
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Land tax and necro are fine to ban. Ban necro in h brawl please. Sneak attack I can see being a problem, but with how little fast mana there is I'd give it a go and if its a problem then axe it. Blood moon would fine imo, punish the 4-5 color bullshit out there. Danning spreading seas is just stupid.
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Blood moon being banned at least weakly suggests they're not going to bring the fetchlands into historic with Khans. So I guess it's at least a good sign for the "historic should have its own identity" people
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Orcish Bowmasters should allow for the unbanning of Brainstorm
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hey quick question, is there additional "end of season" rewards for rank acheivements in seperate game modes? Or is it like Hearthstone where it just takes your highest rank in any format and gives you the rewards for that rank? I know it's not a huge amount of gold or packs but it always annoyed me about HS that there was literally no incentive for investing time into more than one game mode..
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Starsfan posted:hey quick question, is there additional "end of season" rewards for rank acheivements in seperate game modes? Or is it like Hearthstone where it just takes your highest rank in any format and gives you the rewards for that rank?
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Also within those two categories, it doesn't matter what mode you play. Ranked Standard, Ranked Explorer and Ranked Alchemy all contribute to the same Constructed rank, while Ranked LotR draft, Ranked Throne of Eldraine draft etc. all contribute to the same Limited rank.
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CharlieFoxtrot posted:Orcish Bowmasters should allow for the unbanning of Brainstorm
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Spreading Seas would make Historic Merfolk a deck and we can't have that here smh (I have no idea if there are islandwalking merfolk on arena)
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Kashuno posted:Spreading Seas would make Historic Merfolk a deck and we can't have that here smh (I have no idea if there are islandwalking merfolk on arena) Yeah there is Master of the pearl Trident. It's a functional deck that can sneak quick wins. And if orcish bowmasters are sticking around DRC should be bumped up to 2 toughness. Still dies to every 2 damage spell but doesn't make her a huge liability. MasterBuilder fucked around with this message at 15:31 on Aug 16, 2023 |
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Deck for the pauper historic midweek: Deck 14 Plains (LTR) 263 10 Island (LTR) 265 4 Soul Warden (M10) 34 4 Spirited Companion (NEO) 38 2 Sandsteppe Outcast (J21) 21 3 Man-o'-War (MH1) 55 2 Icewind Stalwart (HBG) 93 1 Dwarven Priest (M19) 11 4 Mulldrifter (J21) 38 1 Salvager of Secrets (M19) 70 3 Soul of Migration (MH2) 33 4 Patriar's Humiliation (HBG) 25 4 Cloudshift (JMP) 97 4 Momentary Blink (TSP) 29 Just absurd. Flickering an evoked Soul of Migration feels like the strongest thing you can be doing. Patriar's Humiliation seems like the best option for removal, especially since the only deck I felt threatened by was the lifegain deck that stacked the black creatures that drained you.
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Kashuno posted:Spreading Seas would make Historic Merfolk a deck and we can't have that here smh (I have no idea if there are islandwalking merfolk on arena) there are, and I remember seeing a mono blue decklist that played 0 islands (or maybe 1 in case of ghost quarter/boseiju/etc) and just used all the blue Pathways so it wouldn't get islandwalked on
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Kurash posted:Deck for the pauper historic midweek: I just played against a similar deck, but my madness deck has enough removal and tricks to keep them from comboing. Also I tried good old mono-u ninjas, and everybody resigned the moment I play the card draw ninja. e: just tried your deck, and I feel like I should swap some more islands for plains. VictualSquid fucked around with this message at 18:21 on Aug 16, 2023 |
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I won it at least once with mostly rat colony and swamps. The laziest pauper
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Billy Gnosis posted:I won it at least once with mostly rat colony and swamps. The laziest pauper This is always the best option. 4x echoing return, whole bunch of rats. 
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I knew it as soon as I saw the preview but they revealed the last historic pre-ban is Intruder Alarm https://twitter.com/mtg_arena/status/1691855881745596910?s=46&t=Bqgt1aG9RGmw0XXcWEazsg
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Kurash posted:Deck for the pauper historic midweek: This has supplanted mono-u ninjas as my favorite Historic Pauper deck. It is gross as heck. For some reason it made a mono-w lifegain player extremely salty as it was much more efficient at gaining life and they spammed the sleeping hedron emote at me lol.
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VictualSquid posted:How does the blink deck deal with the bogles deck? counterspells i do think historic has some nontargeted bounces like river's rebuke but i don't know all of them or how playable they are
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VictualSquid posted:How does the blink deck deal with the bogles deck? Swing for lethal - bounce your creature that gets blocked by the lifelinker.
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