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ibid
Aug 18, 2022

by vyelkin
about enemies!

https://twitter.com/tamaranopper/status/1691924804910170486

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bvj191jgl7bBsqF5m
Apr 16, 2017

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NeonPunk posted:

I can't tell if this is a joke or not but one complaint from folks in SAD is that this thread has been giving out bad medical advice so in that mind it's necessary to tell you that it is a bad idea to smooch someone that is currently covid positive on the face and mouth.

oh sorry i meant positive in the negative direction (they've been testing negative)

Phigs
Jan 23, 2019

StratGoatCom posted:

Basically, keep your goddamn air intake clean, leave anything else to the doctors.

Imagine going to your PCP for advice on which budget air purifiers are the most effective.

The Oldest Man
Jul 28, 2003

Snowglobe of Doom posted:

My brother works for a transportation company and had a similar problem with a newly constructed supermarket which had a ramp down to the unloading dock but they couldn't tell him what the roof clearance was, so it was unclear whether a semi trailer could actually fit down there. They actually requested he "just get one of your semis to back down there and see if it fits" and were pretty miffed when he lmaoed at that suggestion

Going out there with a measuring tape is just a single low-n unblinded study

It's not the gold standard of The Science unless you tell a randomly selected group of truckers to show up and unload something at that dock, five or ten times, then get a hand-picked group of supermarket experts from ivies to read those studies, assign weights to each one depending on how much they like the authors, and then write their own paper that says the evidence that the influence of the dock overhead clearance at that krogers on semi trucks getting damaged is mixed

Lib and let die
Aug 26, 2004

ron swanson walking into a local medical supply store interrupting the employee with a brief, stern "i know more than you"

Pablo Nergigante
Apr 16, 2002

NeonPunk posted:

The medical professionals were right. We needed a randomized controlled trials in order to justify anything before we do it.

Like physics is all based off numbers and math which doesn't even exist in real life! It's madness to believe in something that's just all in our head.

Like how do they even come up with the max load for bridges? By calculating from the materials in the construction and the design? Please. They should just build one then drive heavier and heavier trucks until it collapse then we can just rebuild it and place what we now know is the max load.

Prepare to be sued

nexous
Jan 14, 2003

I just want to be pure

Phigs posted:

Imagine going to your PCP for advice on which budget air purifiers are the most effective.

they would commit you to the psych ward

Ive only had experience with one really bad Dr, My wifes old Dr who spent 10 minutes berating her for wearing a mask in early 2021 and making her cry

My PCP, endocrinologist, gastroenterologist, and urologist are all cool and good

Coolness Averted
Feb 20, 2007

oh don't worry, I can't smell asparagus piss, it's in my DNA

GO HOGG WILD!
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Pablo Nergigante posted:

You’re right. Better to listen to random strangers on the internet

I already hook my insurance chatbot up to a 'twitch plays' system whenever I need to schedule an appointment
instead of going in for routine bloodwork this year I'm scheduled for 6 breast reductions and 9 endoscopic colonoscopies

Buffer
May 6, 2007
I sometimes turn down sex and blowjobs from my girlfriend because I'm too busy posting in D&D. PS: She used my credit card to pay for this.

NeonPunk posted:

Listen to your doctor would be a good advice if healthcare wasn't so hosed up. It's awfully privileged to say that, like does everyone have a personal doctor on their speed dial lmao

Hospitals are being shuttered across the country and it takes months to get an appointment with a doctor or a specialist

Sure. I happen to be ludicrously privileged in the medical care department.

I was more intimating that "listen to your doctor" applies equally to people posting anywhere about this. Even if you are a doctor you aren't my doctor and I don't really have any way of vetting you, nor do the staff really - so I resent the implication I need "protection."

It's more of a general thing though - like taking up the responsibility of trying to ensure only good advise is given on the forums seems like a path towards madness. We've always been rough and tumble on the trust and safety side.

ibid
Aug 18, 2022

by vyelkin
I only listen to specifically curated strangers on the internet.

The Oldest Man
Jul 28, 2003

My doctor is an arnp i get 10 minutes with once a year who looks like he's so tired he's going to die, I guess I should get a second opinion from this chatbot which is the only other resource my insurance thinks I should have

ibid
Aug 18, 2022

by vyelkin

quote:

Some patients admitted to a Vancouver Island hospital over the long weekend were stunned to receive a notice telling them that even though theyd been admitted, there wasnt a doctor available to care for them.

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The situation is not ideal and it's not a situation we want to find ourselves in, said Marko Peljhan. We do have a shortage of physicians on the site, that is not unusual for us at Nanaimo Regional General Hospital and youll find that in many jurisdictions across the island and across the province and the country.

Several sources at the hospital tell CTV News the facility has been on the brink for some time, and Peljhan acknowledges the departure of just two hospitalist doctors that provided the majority of in-patient care was enough to tip the scales.

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Hospitalists doctors have the same training as family physicians, who often practice in both settings. However, while primary care physicians have a collective contract on what theyre paid by the province for their services, each health authority negotiates with the hospitalists in each facility on an agreement; its restricted by the conditions and terms imposed by the provincial government, meaning its very difficult to provide special incentives or compensation for difficult-to-staff hospitals.

Nanaimos hospitalists have been without a contract for years and have similar issues as doctors in the Lower Mainland who went public with their issues and related patient safety concerns earlier this year.

more

https://bc.ctvnews.ca/b-c-health-care-crisis-no-doctors-available-for-hospitalized-patients-1.6512995

Lacrosse
Jun 16, 2010

>:V


I'm losing my health insurance soon, YouTube is my doctor now

ibid
Aug 18, 2022

by vyelkin

https://twitter.com/sick_but_trying/status/1691856660682227797

Phigs
Jan 23, 2019

Listen to your doctor, not goons. Also, your continued masking and avoiding eating inside at restaurants is a sign of mental illness and you should go live your life.

tangy yet delightful
Sep 13, 2005



Rick posted:

Anyone here do trucking? In my imagination you could stay pretty covid safe despite all the driving around but maybe I'm missing something.

I used to be a truck broker, so I have adjacent level knowledge. Unless you are able to get a home every night type trucking job, your showering locations will be truck stops where you'd be rolling the dice on shared air. Otherwise you should be able to mask up for the times you need to go into facilities. As some others have posted it's likely that you'd encounter a lot of negativity around masking which is something to keep in mind.

For an in person job you certainly would be around other people for a low percentage of time, but it's also a tough job on your health from all the hours sitting driving and the difficulty of getting and eating healthy food on the road.

Lib and let die
Aug 26, 2004

Phigs posted:

Listen to your doctor, not goons. Also, your continued masking and avoiding eating inside at restaurants is a sign of mental illness and you should go live your life.

been saying this, glad to see it's finally catching on

Lib and let die
Aug 26, 2004

Lacrosse posted:

I'm losing my health insurance soon, YouTube is my doctor now

that loving sucks, as a person who was myself victimized by public market plan you have my deepest sympathies

ibid
Aug 18, 2022

by vyelkin
I mean it's not going to be much longer anyone has a doctor, it'll just be some venture capital AI, a nurse, and a security guard.

Buffer
May 6, 2007
I sometimes turn down sex and blowjobs from my girlfriend because I'm too busy posting in D&D. PS: She used my credit card to pay for this.

Phigs posted:

Listen to your doctor, not goons. Also, your continued masking and avoiding eating inside at restaurants is a sign of mental illness and you should go live your life.

Help! I can't do both of these things, lol.

Lib and let die posted:

ron swanson walking into a local medical supply store interrupting the employee with a brief, stern "i know more than you"

asking my every chain of the hospital admit process the stairs question

StratGoatCom
Aug 6, 2019

Our security is guaranteed by being able to melt the eyeballs of any other forum's denizens at 15 minutes notice


ibid posted:

I mean it's not going to be much longer anyone has a doctor, it'll just be some venture capital AI, a nurse, and a security guard.
Fortunately, the AI bubble seems to be bursting, so this risk doesn't seem to be real at least until the coming AI winter is over.

Iverron
May 13, 2012

listen to the nurse 15 year old working at the urgent care after school

https://twitter.com/WTAE/status/1690076897596628992?s=20

ibid
Aug 18, 2022

by vyelkin

StratGoatCom posted:

Fortunately, the AI bubble seems to be bursting, so this risk doesn't seem to be real at least until the coming AI winter is over.

All they need is something to game the insurance companies and the patient for the desired level of profit.

Asproigerosis
Mar 13, 2013

insufferable

Iverron posted:

listen to the nurse 15 year old working at the urgent care after school

https://twitter.com/WTAE/status/1690076897596628992?s=20

Lmao what is even the purpose of these places then when they'll only be able to provide a level of care equivalent to an elementary school nurse where they just give bandaid and tylenol?

Lib and let die
Aug 26, 2004

urgent care clinics, long known for prioritizing best-in-care healthcare practices rather than churning through as many patients as possible in a day to appease investors,

Pittsburgh Fentanyl Cloud
Apr 7, 2003


Iverron posted:

listen to the nurse 15 year old working at the urgent care after school

https://twitter.com/WTAE/status/1690076897596628992?s=20

That was big news here when it broke and I am extremely confused as to who will be providing care

The Oldest Man
Jul 28, 2003

Pittsburgh Fentanyl Cloud posted:

That was big news here when it broke and I am extremely confused as to who will be providing care

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hmUVo0xVAqE

The Oldest Man
Jul 28, 2003

Please only consult the HealthMaster Inferno for medical questions

mawarannahr
May 21, 2019

Snowglobe of Doom posted:

My brother works for a transportation company and had a similar problem with a newly constructed supermarket which had a ramp down to the unloading dock but they couldn't tell him what the roof clearance was, so it was unclear whether a semi trailer could actually fit down there. They actually requested he "just get one of your semis to back down there and see if it fits" and were pretty miffed when he lmaoed at that suggestion

lol. when did this happen?

Snowglobe of Doom
Mar 30, 2012

sucks to be right

mawarannahr posted:

lol. when did this happen?

Pretty recently, just before the pandemic

mawarannahr
May 21, 2019

Lacrosse posted:

I'm losing my health insurance soon, YouTube is my doctor now
get on Apple health it's been useful for me. I used chpw

Lib and let die
Aug 26, 2004

get your docs in a row on zocdoc

mawarannahr
May 21, 2019

Snowglobe of Doom posted:

Pretty recently, just before the pandemic

I thought there could be a COVID Angle there but I guess not everything is COVID

The Oldest Man
Jul 28, 2003

mawarannahr posted:

I thought there could be a COVID Angle there but I guess not everything is COVID

covid is a symptom of and contributor to increasing capitalmalisms but if it wasnt covid there's still plenty of pfas contamination, environmental lead, FASD, etc. going around. covid is just adding a few hundred more bricks to the cart

deadwing
Mar 5, 2007

let's goooooooooo

https://twitter.com/SolidEvidence/status/1692200994632089809

Why Am I So Tired
Sep 28, 2021
My doctor told me I can't let Carrousel Anxiety Disorder control my life, Renewal is mild now.

salient
Jan 2, 2021

Poppers posted:

Covid cough is usually dry. If it was nasty and sloppy she might have just had COPD.

it's so unhelpful to make comments like this lol. the alpha strain tended to be dry but that changed pretty definitively as mutations piled on. i have suctioned so many covid patients with airways compromised by the sheer amount of phlegm they were producing. most of the covid positive kiddos i've seen have also been snot factories w wet coughs. there is no universal covid dry cough at this point in the pandemic.

mawarannahr posted:

it's being reported that EG.5 can be associated with a productive cough: https://www.independent.co.uk/news/world/americas/covid-cases-eris-symptoms-variant-b2391394.html
could not find a direct link to the Zoe study so would appreciate if someone can find.

Pingui posted:

You will note their framing is (paraphrased): "it is similar to Omicron. Omicrons symptoms are these."

So I am reasonably confident they are referring to this:

quote:

https://joinzoe.com/learn/covid-new-top-10-covid-symptoms

Updated 13th December 2022
What are the most common COVID symptoms?

Rosalind
Apr 30, 2013

When we hit our lowest point, we are open to the greatest change.

Since I was invited to participate in this thread and since the OP was said to be rewritten to be more accurate, I just wanted to point out:

quote:

with Paxlovid you'll be taking repurposed AIDS medication--this is all not-loving-around-with medication.

This is partially wrong in a few different ways. Paxlovid combines the drugs nirmatrelvir and ritonavir. Nirmatrelvir is a wholly new drug that was developed in 2020 specifically for treating COVID-19. Ritonavir, aka Norvir, is a medication for treating/managing HIV infection which causes AIDS. I know it's common to confuse HIV and AIDS but they are in fact different things. HIV is the virus that is treated and AIDS is the disease than manifests if HIV is left untreated. Many people are given ritonavir who do not, and will never, have AIDS.

A better wording of this sentence for clarity that more accurately describes Paxlovid would be:

quote:

with Paxlovid you'll be taking an effective combination drug that includes two antivirals, including one that was developed for the treatment of HIV--this medication does not gently caress around.

Zerg Mans
Oct 19, 2006
Probation
Can't post for 8 hours!
One of the funnier things in the post covid world is people who stopped masking are realizing how hosed up the air was before covid. Its not normal to get a cold 10 times a year folks!

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mawarannahr
May 21, 2019

286? wake me up at BA.MD64

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