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Poppers posted:Droplet vs airborne is a real distinction in medical practice lol but in reality covid positive cases have been treated as airborne for the entirety of the pandemic it's not a real distinction in the thermodynamics of water droplets and evaporation let's see who wins in another exciting round of "we've always done it this way vs. the universe"
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Aug 18, 2023 18:49
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Rosalind posted:They will learn that I am incredibly stubbornly persistent in the face of stupid bureaucracy. goon project: everyone request the data
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Aug 18, 2023 18:54
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ibid posted:https://twitter.com/laurieallee/status/1692324204996436380 I’ve read through the thing Imani barbarin references and it should be noted that it says private equity was getting into disability care years before the pandemic, and with a focus on autism/behavioral/developmental care I’m not sure why she references that when retirement homes making people sign over their houses seems like a more relevant stripping of wealth Steve Yun has issued a correction as of 19:04 on Aug 18, 2023 |
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Aug 18, 2023 18:59
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Raskolnikov2089 posted:Helpful info for min-maxing your 2023 build:
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Aug 18, 2023 19:16
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Greg Legg posted:It's just me and about 2 other people wearing masks where I work now. I'm not sure how it is in other parts of the country, but at least around here no one has ever given me poo poo for wearing a mask. Ditto for me, I mask and one other labmate masks (still uses Powecom from when I gave her the link to them back in late 2020  ). There's another person who also regularly masks but they're in a different lab and I think part-time. Sometimes I see an increase in masking when people come in sick. While I wish they'd wear one more regularly, I am incredibly thankful that, at least in my little corner of the world, it's been somewhat normalized to do.
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Aug 18, 2023 19:23
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The plot thickens somewhat:quote:Good morning, My email was titled "COVID Wastewater surveillance data request" but ok.
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Aug 18, 2023 19:50
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the appropriate program is the recycle bin
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Aug 18, 2023 19:52
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Good news guys! The CDC updated its variant sequencing data today. It's very helpfu...oh I guess that is ok though - because the CDC updates its main wastewater data on Thursdays at 8pm. SEE!  Goddamn it  No worries though! Hospitalization Data is always updated on Friday mornings! gently caress Ahahahahhah 
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Aug 18, 2023 20:11
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I am now very curious to know if there was this kind of information control during the 1918 flu in america. edit: actually scratch that, I'm curious to know how the government suppressed that
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Aug 18, 2023 20:15
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Rosalind posted:The plot thickens somewhat: Be kind they have long covid
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Aug 18, 2023 20:20
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SardonicTyrant posted:I am now very curious to know if there was this kind of information control during the 1918 flu in america. People didnt have that sort of information available to them until Al Gore invented the internet.
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Aug 18, 2023 20:21
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Rosalind posted:The plot thickens somewhat: nexous posted:the appropriate program is the recycle bin
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Aug 18, 2023 20:21
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Rosalind posted:The plot thickens somewhat: StratGoatCom has issued a correction as of 20:27 on Aug 18, 2023 |
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Aug 18, 2023 20:23
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SardonicTyrant posted:I am now very curious to know if there was this kind of information control during the 1918 flu in america. lol quote:So, when the 1918 Pandemic began to spread throughout the US, most authorities used the influenza’s spread as a justification for the continued usage of widespread censorship. The Public Health Commissioner of Chicago once stated, “Worry kills more people than the epidemic”, a sentiment held by many other US public health officials. https://www.graduateinstitute.ch/co...d%20censorship.
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Aug 18, 2023 20:31
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Nationally The Period Ending 7/22 Top 5 five Variants XBB.1.5: 16.9% XBB.1.6: 15.6% EG.5 12.5% XBB.2.3 10% XBB.1..6.1: 6.7% The Period Ending 8/5 EG.5 16.1 XBB.1.6: 13.3% XBB.2.3 11.1% XBB.1.5: 8.6% XBB.1..6.1: 7.1% *Tie FL.1.5.1 7.1% The Period Ending 8/18 EG.5 20.3% FL.1.5.1 13.3% XBB.1.6: 10.7 XBB.2.3 10.6% XBB.1.6.6%: 8%
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Aug 18, 2023 20:33
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quote:However, the authorities’ attempts to suppress information only created immense distrust among the general public as they no longer believed what the officials were telling them. This ironically contributed to higher infection and mortality rates than if the public had followed the officials’ directions once they did start to acknowledge the pandemic’s seriousness. wow no way
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Aug 18, 2023 20:35
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StratGoatCom posted:I wonder how many rounds it will be before they finally silent treatment you. I structured my entire dissertation around reproducible science using publicly available data so I have a very personal loathing for hiding data. I think it's pretty much one of the most reprehensible things a public health department can do. If they are worried about the public misinterpreting the data, then it's their job as a health department to produce effective messaging explaining and contextualizing the data, not hiding it from public view.
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Aug 18, 2023 20:37
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Bruce Hussein Daddy posted:quote: Sounds like the author wasn't listening to the Surgeon General and thus, to science
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Aug 18, 2023 20:37
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Rosalind posted:This has certainly given me the idea for a publication making data requests of all 50 states and assessing their responsiveness. It will, of course, be incredibly and universally bad. But academic publications like that do get attention. Do it
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Aug 18, 2023 20:38
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Pillowpants posted:Good news guys! The CDC updated its variant sequencing data today. It's very helpfu...oh 
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Aug 18, 2023 20:38
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I like where this thread is headed.
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Aug 18, 2023 20:39
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Bruce Hussein Daddy posted:
Pandemics: A Very Short Introduction posted:In 1831, as cholera made its way through Russia, the anxious English awaited its arrival. Newspapers, pamphlets, and rumor spread fear of the disease. But Dr. James Johnson, editor of the Medico-Chirurgical Review, cautioned the press in a letter to The Times: “It will hardly be doubted that the terrible malady choleraphobia rages at this moment, epidemically, through every spot of the British Isles. . . . The choleraphobia will frighten to death a far greater number of Britons than the monster itself will ever destroy by his actual presence.” UK Parliament: Cholera in Sunderland posted:In Britain, 32,000 people died of cholera in 1831 and 1832.
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Aug 18, 2023 20:47
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I thought COVID was a vascular disease? Why bundle it with respiratory diseases? Or is the grouping based on manner of spread?
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Aug 18, 2023 20:50
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drat this is pretty good news to see systemic immune performance like this after the kind of disappointing ChAdOx1 result. https://www.nature.com/articles/s41541-023-00717-8 Maybe strong enough results to kick the US drug approval apparatus off its rear end and get intranasal vaccines approved and widely distributed here? Or at least a step in the right direction.
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Aug 18, 2023 21:05
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Pillowpants posted:Good news guys! The CDC updated its variant sequencing data today. It's very helpfu...oh
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Aug 18, 2023 21:09
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CGI Stardust posted:throughout history, Mental Health has been a concern it's funny how the absolute worst people are always very concerned about mental health, but never about physical health. it's almost like there's some kind of pattern
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Aug 18, 2023 21:17
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DominoKitten posted:New variant found in Israel, Denmark, Michigan US now spotted in the UK After so much radio silence about Covid stuff recently, the fact this is being talked about so widely is a bit concerning
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Aug 18, 2023 21:20
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RealityWarCriminal posted:how's Burning Man A hurricane is on its way to the playa so currently pretty wet
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Aug 18, 2023 21:23
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Raskolnikov2089 posted:I thought COVID was a vascular disease? Why bundle it with respiratory diseases? Or is the grouping based on manner of spread? There's no real definition I think. I personally started calling it a vascular disease in this thread in 2020 when it became clear that respiratory was the route of infection but not the whole story; I chose vascular because of all the heart attacks and strokes and DVTs and blood that just coagulated in the syringe during the first wave and all the doctors weren't too exhausted to be amazed. At this point I would call it a multisystem epigenetic disease with the way it up regulates and down regulates genetic expression and apparently fucks with DNA transcription. No one listens to me though, and further clarifying would scare people so we just don't bother updating it. We started saying that in this thread because there were a number of healthcare professionals insisting a respiratory disease couldn't do the stuff COVID did and that THEREFORE the heart attacks and DVTs and hosed up livers and new-onset diabetes stuff were not caused by the infection. (???) Long story short, people think it's primarily a respiratory disorder because it has "respiratory" in the name. Literally because we called it that and the name stuck. It drives me crazy. This is how social reality overwrites material reality and makes it impossible to talk about anything seriously, it's kind of the same as the aerosol/droplet telephone game where people spend all their time obsessing about the words that are used rather than what's actually happening. And that's how COVID became "just a cold".
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Aug 18, 2023 21:27
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Rosalind posted:This has certainly given me the idea for a publication making data requests of all 50 states and assessing their responsiveness. It will, of course, be incredibly and universally bad. But academic publications like that do get attention. Godspeed.
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Aug 18, 2023 21:29
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Teabag Dome Scandal posted:No one has ever given me poo poo but I'm also a dude. A couple weeks ago some old lady yelled at my wife while she was walking to work but she feels a lot less self conscious than she did when she had to RTO so it didn't really bother her. My wife is a petite asian lady and there was a decent sized wave of hate crimes against this group when trump played off covid as the "China Virus", including in our area. She's not chinese but of course that doesn't matter to chuds. Between her immunocompromised situation and that possibility of just getting assaulted in public we've had me mostly handle errands since the pandemic started. I sometimes get mild questions about still masking up in public in my p conservative area but obviously the kind of cowards that attacked women half their size aren't really itching to pick a fight with a big guy that works in construction.
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Aug 18, 2023 21:31
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jetz0r posted:it's funny how the absolute worst people are always very concerned about mental health, but never about physical health. it's almost like there's some kind of pattern Hard not to notice that the concern begins and ends where the concerned party is getting annoyed, too. It's not one of those problems that you work on or solve, it's just kinda "hey shut up."
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Aug 18, 2023 21:33
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PoundSand posted:My wife is a petite asian lady and there was a decent sized wave of hate crimes against this group when trump played off covid as the "China Virus", including in our area. She's not chinese but of course that doesn't matter to chuds. Between her immunocompromised situation and that possibility of just getting assaulted in public we've had me mostly handle errands since the pandemic started. I sometimes get mild questions about still masking up in public in my p conservative area but obviously the kind of cowards that attacked women half their size aren't really itching to pick a fight with a big guy that works in construction. That is loving garbage, I'm sorry your wife has to experience that and the two of you have had to reorganize your lives around avoiding it even a little.
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Aug 18, 2023 21:37
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The Oldest Man posted:That is loving garbage, I'm sorry your wife has to experience that and the two of you have had to reorganize your lives around avoiding it even a little. I was just sort of responding to the idea that "no one bothers people over masking", honestly I handle most the cooking/grocery shopping in our household anyway so it's not a super big deal but yeah considerations drastically change over stuff like this depending on who you are. I don't get much "harassment" over still masking but people do still point it out, mostly just small chat questioning. The way I've found to deflect it is just mentioning that I haven't had a cold since masking in public and if this minor inconvenience means never getting sick again I'll take it and p much everyone can relate to that, regardless of their political leanings on the whole covid situation.
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Aug 18, 2023 21:49
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Yeah I never really get serious poo poo about my mask but I'm also aware that's in large part due to me being a middleaged white dude
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Aug 18, 2023 21:54
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PoundSand posted:I was just sort of responding to the idea that "no one bothers people over masking", honestly I handle most the cooking/grocery shopping in our household anyway so it's not a super big deal but yeah considerations drastically change over stuff like this depending on who you are. I don't get much "harassment" over still masking but people do still point it out, mostly just small chat questioning. The way I've found to deflect it is just mentioning that I haven't had a cold since masking in public and if this minor inconvenience means never getting sick again I'll take it and p much everyone can relate to that, regardless of their political leanings on the whole covid situation. Yeah, even if it isn't outright aggression the loss of access to the proverbial public square is pretty real. My own grief over this is that my partner has lost access to a large part of her professional community because of her own medical issues and need to avoid getting got and that community's generally deadset refusal to be inclusive or host any events that aren't orientated around eating inside at someone's house in a large enough group that doing it habitually even in a respirator probably wouldn't be a great idea even if sitting as the only person not eating in an n95 wasn't already a dogshit experience of social othering. I can't say exactly which professional community this is because I don't want to dox myself but I will say that the situation is both extremely sad and deeply, deeply ironic.
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Aug 18, 2023 21:54
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 https://m.timesofindia.com/life-sty...y/102771225.cms one week pre-positive periods anecdotal, but a lot of my friends who popped positive this month were symptomatic for a long time before they got a red line Steve Yun has issued a correction as of 22:13 on Aug 18, 2023 |
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Aug 18, 2023 22:10
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I've said it before but it really does matter for gender/stature a lot. I'm a smaller woman and ive definitely had a few odd run ins including at work. That being said, only like 3 times in 3 years but Im also a home body anyway and have basically skipped a ton of events and professional stuff because i'd just rather not.
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Aug 18, 2023 22:11
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Pillowpants posted:Good news guys! The CDC updated its variant sequencing data today. It's very helpfu...oh Can I see the data? ...No
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Nothus posted:Don't worry about it. "We are going to rely on vaccines to get us out of this." "Can I have one?" "No."
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Aug 18, 2023 22:52
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