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Gunshow Poophole posted:hell yeah, representative-of-the-country states like Washington, New York and California! I'm just speaking of the states I have experience with because I or family members live in those states, or I help run studies in those states. Paxlovid is free federally right now (and from what I've read there will be federal programs to keep it low cost even after it's not free in the Fall which is stupid and bad but I don't think it's going to be impossible to obtain for most people still) and there are low cost resources in this thread's OP for accessing paxlovid quickly. I guess I just can't see "stockpiling paxlovid" as anything other than a solution in search of a problem that could have serious problems of its own.
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Aug 21, 2023 19:37
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Rosalind posted:I guess I just can't see "stockpiling paxlovid" as anything other than a solution in search of a problem that could have serious problems of its own. well the problem is covid and that does have serious problems of its own thankfully though COVID is over and we have the tools
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Aug 21, 2023 19:43
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dont horde prescription medication and always consult a medical professional
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Aug 21, 2023 19:48
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16-bit Butt-Head posted:dont horde prescription medication and always consult a medical professional it's your body, don't rely on a piece of poo poo who maintained a c average in medical school to keep you alive. (USER WAS PUT ON PROBATION FOR THIS POST)
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Aug 21, 2023 19:50
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Rosalind posted:There is compelling evidence that masks and seatbelts work and that drunk driving is ridiculously dangerous. There's a pile of virally caused cancers so the idea of a virus causing cancer is not surprising. For some areas of the world such as Uganda, virally caused cancer encompasses about 20% of cancer. Wear a mask. Avoid situations where you'd get covid. It's only been a few years and with long covid tearing so many people up, there's no reason to not be wary of it. silicone thrills has issued a correction as of 19:53 on Aug 21, 2023 |
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Aug 21, 2023 19:50
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corsi technique makes an appearance in public health  https://publichealthinsider.com/2023/08/21/tips-for-clean-air-indoors-on-smoky-days-a-public-health-comic/
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Aug 21, 2023 19:51
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Baddog posted:wrt paxlovid, the underlying issue for me is that this thing has become SO politicized that on the one hand we have the government (and drug companies) telling us to just get paxlovid, "use the tool". And on the other hand, a metric shitload of doctors are incredibly reluctant to do so, for whatever reason. exactly---which is why the current SAD complaint is transparent and specious. it's the only reactive tool available right now considering present vaccine efficacy. quote:Yes, please have the "if I get covid will you give me paxlovid" conversation with your actual doctor ahead of time, not just the forums (if you are lucky enough to have an actual doctor). And discuss any real issues like drug contraindications or liver/kidney issues with them. The time to talk about it is when you are healthy, not when you are feeling like absolute poo poo and stressing out. the last OP spelled this out in detail! and members would typically caveat their posts with this info, almost every time. it's so old hat in this thread that it has not been included, but sure, yes, it should be. you're in a den of compassionate and often disabled people, many (most?) not able to be computer touching remote workers, whose goal is solely to protect their loved ones. SAD is complaining in their chat thread that people are "hoarding" (1-2 treatments!) of Paxlovid and pushing this treatment on people with no consideration.
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Aug 21, 2023 19:51
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Harik posted:it's your body, don't rely on a piece of poo poo who maintained a c average in medical school to keep you alive. you should trust medical professionals OP
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Aug 21, 2023 19:51
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My policy is, as ever: keep your air intake clean, and unless you have a dewormer idiot, leave anything under the hood to those folks, and in the former case, find someone else.silicone thrills posted:There's a pile of virally caused cancers so the idea of a virus causing cancer is not surprising. For some areas of the world such as Uganda, virally caused cancer encompasses about 20% of cancer. While I personally don't know about the oncovirus poo poo, the one I worry about is some sort of gnarly viral delayed action poo poo like EB or chickenpox.
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Aug 21, 2023 19:52
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cross posting from a SAD thread Posting about giving away prescription drugs is not okay in the COVID thread, and CK09 is already probed for it. discussing about why people are hoarding seems to fit within a political discussion and seems okay to me. posting about ways to hoard that isn't done via a prescription (or that involves lying or lying through omission) is not okay either. don't lie to your doctor. concert posting is not okay. it's in the rules because it generates weird posts. missed the post from earlier today. no, no one should lie to doctors. phone posting on break so i haven't caught them all, but more probes will be coming for that.
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Aug 21, 2023 19:52
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16-bit Butt-Head posted:you should trust medical professionals OP
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Aug 21, 2023 19:52
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exceptional timing to remind posters who don't read that there was Actually Real discussion of "stockpiling" or "hoarding" anything there was! Rosalind said so!!
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Aug 21, 2023 19:53
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mahler_biryani posted:Well gently caress my kid popped positive on a RAT. This is first for any of us to the best of our knowledge. As I mentioned we are currently traveling and for the past week, my wife and kid were elsewhere, so I can continue staying in a separate room but my wife has been exposed for days by now, but we can hope… this loving sucks and godspeed on every front. hopefully no long term issues.
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Aug 21, 2023 19:53
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16-bit Butt-Head posted:dont horde prescription medication and always consult a medical professional You should steal Paxlovid from the pharmacy and stick it up your rear end 
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Aug 21, 2023 19:55
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Gunshow Poophole posted:exceptional timing to remind posters who don't read that there was Actually Real discussion of "stockpiling" or "hording" anything Exactly, nobody is "stockpiling" Paxlovid or encouraging anyone to blindly take it. It's once again a narrative manufactured by the people looking to get this thread shut down. They're deliberately and disingenuously interpreting casual language in the most bad faith way possible. It's "Lisa's going to marry a carrot" horseshit.
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Aug 21, 2023 19:55
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Why Am I So Tired posted:Exactly, nobody is "stockpiling" Paxlovid or encouraging anyone to blindly take it. It's once again a narrative manufactured by the people looking to get this thread shut down. They're deliberately and disingenuously interpreting casual language in the most bad faith way possible. It's "Lisa's going to marry a carrot" horseshit. Nearly every post I make here is interpreted in the most bad faith way possible so welcome to the club it sucks.
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Aug 21, 2023 19:57
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Absolutely cannot understand the logic of "hate reading" a thread anymore. Go read something you enjoy!
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Aug 21, 2023 19:57
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Why Am I So Tired posted:Exactly, nobody is "stockpiling" Paxlovid or encouraging anyone to blindly take it. It's once again a narrative manufactured by the people looking to get this thread shut down. They're deliberately and disingenuously interpreting casual language in the most bad faith way possible. It's "Lisa's going to marry a carrot" horseshit. Keeping multiple boxes of Paxlovid at any one time even when you haven't contracted covid (and might never depending on how extreme your caution is) is hoarding, even if it's not dozens of boxes.
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Aug 21, 2023 19:58
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I wish I could be surprised by the number of people angry that people still take this pandemic seriously.
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Aug 21, 2023 19:58
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Rosalind posted:Nearly every post I make here is interpreted in the most bad faith way possible so welcome to the club it sucks. I'm not talking about you fwiw.
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Aug 21, 2023 19:58
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Is it hoarding advil when i keep a bottle of it around in case I get a headache? Is it hoarding nyquil/dayquil if I keep boxes of it around when I don't have a cold???? Tylenol has some of the absolute loving worst side effects and will destroy your liver. Oh gently caress I have a bottle of tylenol. I'm hoarding a dangerous drug. edit: I have narcan in my cabinet despite not being an addict. IM HOARDING. IM HOARDING OVER HERE. edit: I looked in my cabinet and I also still have some SSRIs from all the times my doctor was throwing poo poo at the wall trying to find something that worked. silicone thrills has issued a correction as of 20:02 on Aug 21, 2023 |
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Aug 21, 2023 19:59
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jesus christ
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Aug 21, 2023 19:59
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Rosalind posted:Nearly every post I make here is interpreted in the most bad faith way possible so welcome to the club it sucks. I'm sorry you feel that way. I think you have added a tremendous amount of good posts and level headed commentary in just the last week you've posted itt alone.
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Aug 21, 2023 19:59
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Why Am I So Tired posted:Exactly, nobody is "stockpiling" Paxlovid or encouraging anyone to blindly take it. It's once again a narrative manufactured by the people looking to get this thread shut down. They're deliberately and disingenuously interpreting casual language in the most bad faith way possible. It's "Lisa's going to marry a carrot" horseshit. I know, that's my point.
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Aug 21, 2023 19:59
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fosborb posted:I'm sorry you feel that way. I think you have added a tremendous amount of good posts and level headed commentary in just the last week you've posted itt alone. Yeah same, I think rosalind is a good poster even if I think they're a touch naive about the system, folks are still a bit jumpy after the weird dipshits last time... or this time.
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Aug 21, 2023 20:01
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silicone thrills posted:Is it hoarding advil when i keep a bottle of it around in case I get a headache? Those are over the counter medications.
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Aug 21, 2023 20:01
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I don't think prescription chat should be allowed period, and that seems to be the policy. either report, pm or gently caress off.
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Aug 21, 2023 20:02
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StratGoatCom posted:Yeah same, I think rosalind is a good poster even if I think they're a touch naive about the system, folks are still a bit jumpy after the weird dipshits last time... or this time. they literally work in the system.
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Aug 21, 2023 20:04
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Lib and let die posted:they literally work in the system. which system 
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Aug 21, 2023 20:04
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silicone thrills posted:which system Rosalind posted:I'm just speaking of the states I have experience with because I or family members live in those states, or I help run studies in those states. Paxlovid is free federally right now (and from what I've read there will be federal programs to keep it low cost even after it's not free in the Fall which is stupid and bad but I don't think it's going to be impossible to obtain for most people still) and there are low cost resources in this thread's OP for accessing paxlovid quickly.
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Aug 21, 2023 20:05
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What "system" are we talking about here? I'm an academic epidemiologist who works on NIH-funded studies.
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Aug 21, 2023 20:05
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 (im not actually a tin foil hat person) I did work for a cancer research center that did a ton of specifically virally based cancer study though which definitely opened my eyes to how many diseases lead to cancer or other nasty poo poo later. Not as a doctor, more admin but they required us to attend at least 1 talk a month for a few years for me. IT was a big reason why with covid I took it very seriously from day one and have continued to take it seriously. silicone thrills has issued a correction as of 20:08 on Aug 21, 2023 |
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Aug 21, 2023 20:06
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academia is evil...
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Aug 21, 2023 20:06
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Rosalind posted:What "system" are we talking about here? I'm an academic epidemiologist who works on NIH-funded studies. big... state university? Cuttlefush posted:academia is evil... I can't argue with this though. I seen it from the insides I did.
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Aug 21, 2023 20:08
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doc tried to write me a prescription for ivermectin, zinc, and quercetin fukking quack. quercetin? everyone knows you want rutin and not quercetin
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Aug 21, 2023 20:08
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I got paxlovid and have to stop rinvoq until I’m fever free for 24 hours
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Aug 21, 2023 20:08
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bedpan posted:doc tried to write me a prescription for ivermectin, zinc, and quercetin All doctors are perfect who never make bad or wrong decisions and have no political pressure.
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Aug 21, 2023 20:09
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Buffer posted:big... state university? A big public university, but not a state university.
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Aug 21, 2023 20:10
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Glumwheels posted:I got paxlovid and have to stop rinvoq until I’m fever free for 24 hours Feel better bud but do let your doc know if your Crohn's flares up so they can give you a little steroid or something
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There’s a discussion to be had about the differences between practicing clinicians, researchers, and policymakers but it’s drowned out by bad faith forum cops so we;lp
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