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I'm still reeling from this, tbh https://www.cidrap.umn.edu/covid-19/more-70-us-household-covid-spread-started-child-study-suggests More than 70% of US household COVID spread started with a child, study suggests
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Aug 22, 2023 16:00
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fosborb posted:I'm still reeling from this, tbh it actually doesn't spread through schools tho
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Aug 22, 2023 16:01
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so the real problem must be the pick up/drop off zone
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Aug 22, 2023 16:01
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unfortunately for my wife, every covid shot she's gotten has put her on her rear end for, minimum, 3 days. a shot now and a shot in a few more months just...isn't gonna happen. she's not even the type to take a flu vaccine, so getting her on board with even semi regular 'rona refreshes was a big win (it 'helps' that her parents are both immunocompromised to some degree [according to what they tell us their doctors tell us so lmao])
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Aug 22, 2023 16:03
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fosborb posted:I'm still reeling from this, tbh this makes me sad and no solution is on the horizon. I remember when the best and the brightest of public health, immunology, virology, infections diseases, etc. were flooding any and every news source with statements about COVID not spreading in schools or children not catching COVID
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Aug 22, 2023 16:03
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Pepe Silvia Browne posted:so the real problem must be the pick up/drop off zone High School Musical: The Virus
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Aug 22, 2023 16:04
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I can't find my allergy test results where next to my positive reaction to peanut the nurse drew a little frowny face like Peanut - 3+ 
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Aug 22, 2023 16:04
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Buffer posted:
lol i hate this place
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Aug 22, 2023 16:04
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Rosalind posted:I can't find my allergy test results where next to my positive reaction to peanut the nurse drew a little frowny face like i like to consider myself lucky, because my immune response to ingesting peanuts is just a bit of diarreah so like...I can get at it every now and again if I have plenty of TP and baby wipes on hand.
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Aug 22, 2023 16:05
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Pepe Silvia Browne posted:it actually doesn't spread through schools tho they should replace the "gun free zone" signs at schools with "covid free zone" to really stop the spread
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Aug 22, 2023 16:05
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bedpan posted:this makes me sad and no solution is on the horizon. yeah it ruled watching a bunch of lagged indicators from the only goddamn time when kids were ACTUALLY kept out of schools being pointed to as evidence that schools were safe. Literally saying "look, when the kids are at home, the virus doesn't spread amongst them, that must mean it's safe to send them to schools!"
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Aug 22, 2023 16:05
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keeping schools open was a joe biden campaign promise lmao
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Aug 22, 2023 16:05
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RealityWarCriminal posted:keeping schools open was a joe biden campaign promise lmao yep
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Aug 22, 2023 16:06
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one of the only ones he actually came through on
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Aug 22, 2023 16:06
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have to send the kids off to
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Aug 22, 2023 16:06
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Gunshow Poophole posted:yeah it ruled watching a bunch of lagged indicators from the only goddamn time when kids were ACTUALLY kept out of schools being pointed to as evidence that schools were safe. thinking about this and hooting like daffy duck
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Aug 22, 2023 16:07
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he also ended covid by pretending it doesnt exist problem solved
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Aug 22, 2023 16:07
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Amazing to me that schools would refuse better air quality in the classroom. My Corsi anecdote: My aunt teaches in a red-as-gently caress school district in rural Southern IL (so rural that kids are allowed to be absent when hunting season starts). I hipped my uncle to the Corsi-Rosenthal Box 2 years ago, he built one and it's been running in her classroom since. They change the filters every semester and they're dirty as hell. She claims that no one has complained, which admittedly surprised me. Another note, for any teachers or relatives of teachers in IL. The IDPH is offering free HEPA purifiers for every classroom and daycare: https://dph.illinois.gov/resource-center/news/2023/march/idph-launches--30-million-program-to-distribute-air-purifiers-in.html https://www.illinois.gov/news/press-release.26746.html
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Aug 22, 2023 16:07
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so is the reason this thread is so shitted up with trolls and drama now because everyone is forced to get infected by their family, job situation etc? like sour grapes? it doesn't matter to me personally since there's nothing i need other that I don't already know (wear a mask), but it definitely makes the thread less interesting. i reckon it will die on its own similar to the dd thread
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Aug 22, 2023 16:08
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fosborb posted:I'm still reeling from this, tbh I mean propaganda that schools have some kind of magical repellant field aside, why? It was obvious from the very, very beginning that schools were a hotbed of transmission. All three of the first big documented COVID outbreaks from community transmission in the PNW were in schools.
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Aug 22, 2023 16:08
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Lib and let die posted:i'm going to make a very blanket statement here as a former restaurant worker: what the gently caress? as a cook, i never loving accused any customer of lying and took their requests seriously whether they were screwing around or not, thanks. i cooked for 10 years and never had an issue with "fakers". maybe i don't get the joke, but it's a poo poo one if it is
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Aug 22, 2023 16:08
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Lib and let die posted:unfortunately for my wife, every covid shot she's gotten has put her on her rear end for, minimum, 3 days. a shot now and a shot in a few more months just...isn't gonna happen. she's not even the type to take a flu vaccine, so getting her on board with even semi regular 'rona refreshes was a big win (it 'helps' that her parents are both immunocompromised to some degree [according to what they tell us their doctors tell us so lmao]) Idk what vaccines she tried, but Novavax is also getting updated this round and people have been having vastly different responses to the different vaccines. Might be worth a (heh) shot.
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Aug 22, 2023 16:09
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mrbotus posted:so is the reason this thread is so shitted up with trolls and drama now because everyone is forced to get infected by their family, job situation etc? like sour grapes? just report the posts you think are disruptive
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Aug 22, 2023 16:09
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bedpan posted:this makes me sad and no solution is on the horizon. those weren't the best and brightest... is the thing. They were the people that were willing to work within the political economy, so they're very useful as "science" social proof for all kinds of interests. There were plenty of doctors, scientists, epis, MPHs, etc. who went out on a limb, risked something to go against that crowd and say that XYZ was worse or whatever. The failure mode was that was generally punished, not rewarded, even once they turned out to be right. You see the same dynamic in climate change. Certain things are guaranteed a platform because of the wider political economy. It actually has very little to do with the disciplines themselves and a lot more to do with our society.
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Aug 22, 2023 16:09
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if you listened to Fauci and Birx in interviews after they resigned, you can tell they were under political pressure and made the science fit what their bosses wanted
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Aug 22, 2023 16:11
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call_of_qthulhu posted:what the gently caress? as a cook, i never loving accused any customer of lying and took their requests seriously this is exactly why I made that statement. when someone reports a bread allergy, a cook that cares will break down and hospital-grade clean their station to prepare an item for a customer with an allergen issue. I've done it myself many times. It is not fun, it is not quick, and it fucks up the other 12 orders you have working in front of you, but you do it because you want the person you're feeding to to enjoy their meal and not die from it.
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Aug 22, 2023 16:12
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mrbotus posted:so is the reason this thread is so shitted up with trolls and drama now because everyone is forced to get infected by their family, job situation etc? like sour grapes? from the very first instance of the thread you could see the parallel timing of increased transmission/illness and threadshitting/complaining, yeah. just about as solid a correlation as the yankee candle review complaint index.
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Aug 22, 2023 16:13
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captainbananas posted:from the very first instance of the thread you could see the parallel timing of increased transmission/illness and threadshitting/complaining, yeah. just about as solid a correlation as the yankee candle review complaint index. this can't be correct. I've been told that COVID is over.
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Aug 22, 2023 16:14
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hell yeah I remember in, like, february 2020, where there were a handful of people going "wow this might be real bad" and clamoring hordes of people going "no it won't shut the gently caress up moron this is nothing, you think it's gonna kill ~10,000-100,000 people in the US? lmao it's not even gonna kill like, ten, shut up and stop worrying" and here we are, a million dead and counting later and it's the same song and dance lmao
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Aug 22, 2023 16:16
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bedpan posted:this can't be correct. I've been told that COVID is over. the pandemic and all government assistance related to it is over. we are now in the rugged individualism phase of life with covid.
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Aug 22, 2023 16:16
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mrbotus posted:so is the reason this thread is so shitted up with trolls and drama now because everyone is forced to get infected by their family, job situation etc? like sour grapes? "What makes you so good you don't deserve to get COVID?" It's been discussed all to hell and back, but yeah this thread attracts people seeking contrition for very lovely situations, so it's easy to troll because people are just gonna be more emotional about this topic. There's also the weird social reaction as above, where people assume folks trying to protect themselves from COVID consider themselves better than other people, which is really similar to like the weird reactions people have to vegans/vegetarians. There's almost certainly an element of dissonance out there as well that increases thread making GBS threads traffic when COVID cases are worse, but that's not the sort of thing one can quantify. I personally don't think the thread can last because it's clear the objective from on high is to demand "normalcy" when discussing a situation that is decidedly not normal. bobtheconqueror has issued a correction as of 16:20 on Aug 22, 2023 |
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Aug 22, 2023 16:16
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COVID as AN EVENT is over. it has been successfully transferred to the list of things that can kill/injure you everyday and it will be your own fault for not being cautious enough.
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Aug 22, 2023 16:16
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RealityWarCriminal posted:if you listened to Fauci and Birx in interviews after they resigned, you can tell they were under political pressure and made the science fit what their bosses wanted no way, they just Followed The Science™
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Aug 22, 2023 16:16
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Buffer posted:those weren't the best and brightest... is the thing. They were the people that were willing to work within the political economy, so they're very useful as "science" social proof for all kinds of interests. it does, in fact, have a lot to do with the disciplines, as they, you know, exist within our society etc. etc. health economists, baby. everyone's a health economist now, whatever their actual job or credential titles.
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Aug 22, 2023 16:17
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^^  Buffer posted:those weren't the best and brightest... is the thing. They were the people that were willing to work within the political economy, so they're very useful as "science" social proof for all kinds of interests. this is a very meta discussion but public health especially as a discipline operates within the strictures imposed upon it by society, it wouldn't exist as a discipline without them. it's a dialectic. Those people ARE described by and upheld by that society as "the best and the brightest" because they work to optimize that dialectic in favor of the stability of the system. What "the best and brightest" means is obviously different to us lol
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Aug 22, 2023 16:19
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bedpan posted:this makes me sad and no solution is on the horizon. It did result in OoCC being actually funny though, so who's to say what is right or wrong? Owlofcreamcheese posted:if I constructed a perfectly engineered circular track of classrooms where every student had corvid but each room took 14 minutes to traverse and a complete circuit could be made in exactly 24 hours could I gain complete immunity by living on a little train that drove me through it continously.
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Aug 22, 2023 16:19
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Pepe Silvia Browne posted:COVID as AN EVENT is over. it has been successfully transferred to the list of things that can kill/injure you everyday and it will be your own fault for not being cautious enough. not even that, since being cautious is itself deeply frowned upon it's like when it comes to covid, a large segment of the population are the kind of people who call you a pussy if you wear a seatbelt
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Aug 22, 2023 16:20
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Anyone itt read The Sickness is the System? Thinking about picking it up, always been a fan of Prof. Wolff's work.
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Aug 22, 2023 16:22
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Gunshow Poophole posted:^^ The course materials for MPH programs are wild I saw a writing prompt in one that was basically "you've been a do-nothing nobody who works 80 hours a week for no benefit to anyone for the last 10 years of your career and suddenly you've stepped into an elevator with your state's governor. what do you say to get him to fund STI screening for teens? 700 words or less" I've never seen toxic work-life balance and learned helplessness normalized in curricula but there it was
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Aug 22, 2023 16:25
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hailthefish posted:not even that, since being cautious is itself deeply frowned upon it's weakness, overall. The "not cautious enough" stuff comes from the Liberal side, and it's residual from when it was an event. "he should've been vaccinated" "he should've gotten a booster" etc. And all of it drives toward a kind of perceived Stupidity, that if this person had known better they'd taken a different series of actions that would have ended with the virus deciding not to infect them quite so bad. And then the thing you're talking about is coming from the Reactionary side, and yeah it's just more directly "he should've been stronger". because if you were a winner and not a loser, you wouldn't have LOST, QED.
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Aug 22, 2023 16:28
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