Animal-Mother posted:

We have the tools. (they are shovels)

mrbotus posted:

so is the reason this thread is so shitted up with trolls and drama now because everyone is forced to get infected by their family, job situation etc? like sour grapes?

it doesn't matter to me personally since there's nothing i need other that I don't already know (wear a mask), but it definitely makes the thread less interesting. i reckon it will die on its own similar to the dd thread

Buffer posted:

those weren't the best and brightest... is the thing. They were the people that were willing to work within the political economy, so they're very useful as "science" social proof for all kinds of interests.

There were plenty of doctors, scientists, epis, MPHs, etc. who went out on a limb, risked something to go against that crowd and say that XYZ was worse or whatever. The failure mode was that was generally punished, not rewarded, even once they turned out to be right. You see the same dynamic in climate change. Certain things are guaranteed a platform because of the wider political economy.

It actually has very little to do with the disciplines themselves and a lot more to do with our society.

Lib and let die posted:

i'm going to make a very blanket statement here as a former restaurant worker:

if you lie about allergies, gently caress you

Rosalind posted:

academia.txt

The Oldest Man posted:

Animal-Mother posted:

We have the tools. (they are shovels)

eXXon posted:

filter air with virtually no drawbacks.

mawarannahr posted:

I would like to, personally. I got all the other rounds as fast as possible but it's gonna be about a year since my last dose of Moderna and I am not excited. I've almost never felt so hosed up. it you add up all the days I guess I've been on my rear end for 9-10 days from all the shots so far. I didn't get COVID yet though.

I feel like I developed a mild tickle in my heart that persisted for like a month after my second round of Moderna (although my first vaccination series was Pfizer). A doctor in America and a doctor on turkey said "oh yeah it's probably the Moderna," Turkish doctor told me never to take Moderna again. Lol

The Fat Swordsman posted:

you're locking down my air now?

eyes turning red, voice getting hoarse

lockdowns, Lockdowns LOCKDOWNS

Poppers posted:

Is Trash Can Denter what this thread calls Bob Watcher now lol?

Lib and let die posted:

i'm going to make a very blanket statement here as a former restaurant worker:

if you lie about allergies, gently caress you

Poppers posted:

Is Trash Can Denter what this thread calls Bob Watcher now lol?

Lib and let die posted:

yup, you caught me out. i have always opposed any measure of lockdowns since 2020. i moved to florida in 2015 because i knew, knew there would be some big gubmint conspiracy to CONTROL ARE FREEDOMS and knew this was the place to be so the SOCIALIST ATHEIST DEMOCRATS couldn't put me in MANDATED LOCKDOWNS LIKE THE CCP #america #patriot #freedomnevercloses

Engorged Pedipalps posted:

You know, I gotta ask, why do we field these sorts of complaints, as a society?

What difference does it make if you spend extra time accommodating somebody's needs? Why do we accept the automatic assumption that this is what people do instead of operating on the assumption that a genuine need exists?

When I hear restaurant workers complain about this kind of thing it lands with me exactly the same way as people complaining about handicapped spaces and welfare queens, it's born from a lovely and judgmental way of thinking that assumes the worst of people and that because some people are undeserving the needy shouldn't be helped

Asproigerosis posted:

If you tell me you're allergic to dilaudid: gently caress you

Engorged Pedipalps posted:

You know, I gotta ask, why do we field these sorts of complaints, as a society?

What difference does it make if you spend extra time accommodating somebody's needs? Why do we accept the automatic assumption that this is what people do instead of operating on the assumption that a genuine need exists?

When I hear restaurant workers complain about this kind of thing it lands with me exactly the same way as people complaining about handicapped spaces and welfare queens, it's born from a lovely and judgmental way of thinking that assumes the worst of people and that because some people are undeserving the needy shouldn't be helped

Pepe Silvia Browne posted:

okay but ya gotta admit that comparing lying about your allergies to make a service worker prepare your food differently and lying about your allergies to justify having an air purifying device in a classroom was kinda dumb

Lib and let die posted:

The implication in doing so is that your server or kitchen staff are too stupid/careless to follow a simple "no x" modifier so you have to really make sure they remember it by making it about more than a personal preference.

Engorged Pedipalps posted:

1. If you get asked it's a lot easier to just say it's an allergy instead of explaining, for example, you have a genetic intolerance to a specific type of food and eating it ruins everything you touch

Engorged Pedipalps posted:

2. My failure rate on asking for special accommodations is significantly higher than 30%

quote:

Restaurant workers don't loving care. I understand why they don't loving care. I don't even resent them for it. But I think they should keep their intrusive thoughts about their customers to themselves.

mawarannahr posted:

What's good about these?

Poppers posted:

Is Trash Can Denter what this thread calls Bob Watcher now lol?

speng31b posted:

The Oldest Man posted:

I just dunno what to say about Bob Wachter, he gave his wife what sounds like pretty severe PASC, described his own case as "nasty," and very much could have died of that 'with covid not of covid' shower fall and subsequent brain bleed.

I hadn't heard about the Bob shower fall lore so I looked it up based on this post and found a few things in the old thread that uhhh weren't so great on this topic about a month ago

The Oldest Man posted:

Me, standing over Bob Wachter's motionless body on the floor of his shower as blood pools under him:

"HOLY poo poo THIS GUY NEEDS CBT"

Thoguh posted:

Wachter broke his head open with COVID and you dummies can’t just enjoy that and instead let yourself be trolled for a bunch of pages.

Just don’t reply to bad faith posters that try to stir up drama so they can go cry about it in SAD. You don’t have to acknowledge them!

I'm not going to quote all the others but there was some pretty hosed up stuff posted. Bob has had some bad COVID opinions on twitter and a pretty influential following so I understand the impulse to hate on the guy, but please steer clear of this kind of stuff from now on under the thread reboot rules.

Poppers posted:

Is Trash Can Denter what this thread calls Bob Watcher now lol?

eXXon posted:

And lald, you know this is a really stupid response to someone who didn't even suggest nefariously lying about having seasonal allergies (or pet, dust, whatever), conditions that effect I'm guessing a majority of the population to some degree and the mitigations for which mostly just involve spending a few hundred bucks to filter air with virtually no drawbacks.

Asproigerosis posted:

Frankly I think the onus is on the consumer to simply not get food that has stuff in it they knowingly can't eat and expecting restaurants to surgically remove some of their own ribs to accommodate. Like, just order something else?

Uncle Boogeyman posted:

Restaraunt workers should be given guns (unironically)

Lib and let die posted:

most of the kitchen staff is already armed, ime

Lib and let die posted:

most of the kitchen staff is already armed, ime

mawarannahr posted:

What's good about these?

Asproigerosis posted:

Frankly I think the onus is on the consumer to simply not get food that has stuff in it they knowingly can't eat and expecting restaurants to surgically remove some of their own ribs to accommodate. Like, just order something else?