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Dante80
Mar 23, 2015

These are from the last two weeks.

Chinese hospital ship Peace Ark in Vanuatu.











Then, Chinese Navy PLANS Peace Ark in Port of Honiara, Solomon Islands greeted by local people. The ship will stay here for a week and provide free medical services to the local residents.









Local residents in Honiara, capital of Solomon Islands receive medical care on the Chinese naval hospital ship Ark Peace on August 21, 2023. Ark Peace docked at the port of Honiara, Solomon Islands for the first time on August 19 and the mission was warmly welcomed by the local people







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Cpt_Obvious
Jun 18, 2007

https://twitter.com/CarlZha/status/1693929785624551576

mawarannahr
May 21, 2019

Mantis42 posted:

On the Weixin food order app it's 12 RMB for Bubble Tea, which is about $1.65. Idk how much it is in New York

e: Speaking of Deng, there's a statue of him at the top of lianhua mountain in the middle of Shenzhen, I got a crappy cellphone picture of it the other day:



in the thumbnail he looks like Lord Vader :twisted:

Maximo Roboto
Feb 4, 2012

Frosted Flake posted:

and I'm curious to see how this history will be rewritten the same way Eastern European history has. Doesn't this complicate a mythologized independent Taiwan that was never part of China?

i don’t think any except the most pro-Green position would claim that Taiwan was never related to China. The “being part” of China is more tenuous because the island was always lackadaisically regarded by the mainland, it was a place where rebel forces fled to now and then. Imperial China was always more concerned about what was accessible by land.

PoontifexMacksimus
Feb 14, 2012

fart simpson posted:

i ran the numbers, and if housing prices here fall 15%, the cost is that my landlord (who owns 6 investment properties) will lose about $100k in pure profit on this apartment

Real estate investors should be the foundation of every new house

Hedenius
Aug 23, 2007

mawarannahr posted:

just saw the word Sweden and got mad
As a Swede I'm just depressed about the state of the country.

Back in the day people dared to be critical of the US.

Olof Palme, Prime Minister of Sweden talking about the Christmas bombings of Hanoi in 1972 posted:

One should call things by their correct names. What is happening in Vietnam is a form of torture.

What you do is torment people, torment a nation to humiliate it, force it to submit to dictatorial language.

And that is why the bombings are an atrocity. And of this we have many examples of in modern history. And they are generally connected with one name: Guernica, Oradour, Babi Yar, Katyń, Lidice, Sharpeville, Treblinka. There, violence has triumphed. But the afterworlds judgement has fallen hard over they who bore responsibility.

Now another name is added to the row: Hanoi, Christmas 1972.

These days everyone who deviates even slightly from the US state department line on any issue is instantly branded as an extremist supporter of Putin and/or China.

Spergin Morlock
Aug 8, 2009

Mantis42 posted:

On the Weixin food order app it's 12 RMB for Bubble Tea, which is about $1.65. Idk how much it is in New York

e: Speaking of Deng, there's a statue of him at the top of lianhua mountain in the middle of Shenzhen, I got a crappy cellphone picture of it the other day:



in Seattle you'll pay $6-8 for a bubble tea lmao

ikanreed
Sep 25, 2009

I honestly I have no idea who cannibal[SIC] is and I do not know why I should know.

syq dude, just syq!
I know no one uses wikisource, but their translated from Chinese category has like 5 works of classic Chinese literature and 50 indictments of people who harassed low level ministers online then went to jail for it.

Marenghi
Oct 16, 2008

Don't trust the liberals,
they will betray you

Hedenius posted:

As a Swede I'm just depressed about the state of the country.

Back in the day people dared to be critical of the US.

Olof Palme, Prime Minister of Sweden talking about the Christmas bombings of Hanoi in 1972 posted:


One should call things by their correct names. What is happening in Vietnam is a form of torture.

What you do is torment people, torment a nation to humiliate it, force it to submit to dictatorial language.

And that is why the bombings are an atrocity. And of this we have many examples of in modern history. And they are generally connected with one name: Guernica, Oradour, Babi Yar, Katyń, Lidice, Sharpeville, Treblinka. There, violence has triumphed. But the afterworlds judgement has fallen hard over they who bore responsibility.

Now another name is added to the row: Hanoi, Christmas 1972.

These days everyone who deviates even slightly from the US state department line on any issue is instantly branded as an extremist supporter of Putin and/or China.

The mystery of who assassinated Olof Palme becomes less mysterious.

Punkin Spunkin
Jan 1, 2010
Probation
Can't post for 3 hours!

strange feelings re Daisy posted:

West stabs Kurds in the back for the 50th time. How quickly they went from "our best allies in Iraq and Syria, elite fighters against ISIS" to "terrorists".

They gave up Marxism Leninism and let Americans set up base on their oil fields and it still wasn't enough to get the minimum of protection.
They did?

strange feelings re Daisy
Aug 2, 2000

Yes. Their founder and thought leader Abdullah Ocalan switched from Marxism Leninism to a new philosophy of "democratic confederalism" influenced by the works of Murray Bookchin. The PKK and wider Kurdish territory also adopted this model.
https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Democratic_confederalism

strange feelings re Daisy has issued a correction as of 18:37 on Aug 22, 2023

R. Mute
Jul 27, 2011

strange feelings re Daisy posted:

Yes. Their founder and thought leader Abdullah Ocalan switched from Marxism Leninism to a new philosophy of "democratic confederalism" influenced by the works of Murray Bookchin. The PKK and wider Kurdish territory also adopted this model.
https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Democratic_confederalism
consistently miserably fail at obtaining a state for your people? convert to anarchism, now you don't need a state. victory achieved. bing bong, so simple

Votskomit
Jun 26, 2013

Dante80 posted:

These are from the last two weeks.

Chinese hospital ship Peace Ark in Vanuatu.

Then, Chinese Navy PLANS Peace Ark in Port of Honiara, Solomon Islands greeted by local people. The ship will stay here for a week and provide free medical services to the local residents.

Local residents in Honiara, capital of Solomon Islands receive medical care on the Chinese naval hospital ship Ark Peace on August 21, 2023. Ark Peace docked at the port of Honiara, Solomon Islands for the first time on August 19 and the mission was warmly welcomed by the local people



https://www.timeslive.co.za/politics/2023-08-22-china-donates-emergency-power-equipment-to-help-south-africa-keep-the-lights-on/

quote:

China donates emergency power equipment to help South Africa keep the lights on

The Chinese government has donated R170m in emergency power equipment and made available an approximately R500m grant as development assistance to alleviate South Africa's energy crisis.

This was revealed by President Cyril Ramaphosa during President Xi Jinping’s state visit to the Union Buildings in Pretoria on Tuesday.

“South Africa deeply appreciates China’s support in addressing our current energy challenges,” said Ramaphosa in his opening remarks.

He added that Chinese companies, encouraged by their government, responded with enthusiasm to his investment drive, which has raised more than R1.5-trillion in commitments in the past five years.

Ramaphosa, who delivered his opening remarks ahead of the state visit in the cabinet room, was accompanied by senior ministers including Naledi Pandor, Khumbudzo Ntshavheni, Kgosientsho Ramokgopa, Enoch Godongwana, Pravin Gordhan, Thandi Modise and Bheki Cele.

Xi's visit comes as South Africa and China celebrate 25 years of diplomatic relations.

Ramaphosa said China’s support during the liberation struggle will never be forgotten.

“In many ways we achieved our struggle also because of the support we received from China, so for us the relationship between South Africa and China is very special.”

China has not only been a friend but also a development partner to South Africa, said Ramaphosa.

“The recent assistance and support that we have received from China, the support that we received during the trying period of Covid-19, was enormous. The provision of PPE that was much needed at the time, we got from China at the right time.”

Ramaphosa also thanked Xi for providing vaccines and other essentials, and cancelling Africa's debt during the pandemic.

“This support extended to the cancellation of debt for a number of countries and this followed a telephone call I had with President Xi as we were discussing a number of challenges that African countries were having.”

Thereafter, Xi came forth with a number of packages and measures to assist African countries that had enormous debt.

“This is something that we will never forget, that it was at a dangerous time, and [in need], we had a friend indeed.”

South Africa maintains high co-operation with China in politics, trade, infrastructure development, science and technology, innovation and education.

“Energy co-operation is a recent development that we look to deepen, particularly in line with our respective commitments to low-carbon-resilient development,” Ramaphosa said, adding that this year saw the resumption of in-person bilateral mechanisms.

“At the moment, China is South Africa’s largest global trading partner.” In turn, South Africa is China’s biggest trading partner in Africa and an important destination for Chinese investment in Africa, with investment growing exponentially.

Ramaphosa said South Africa would like to see the significant trade deficit narrowed, adding: “The development co-operation between our two countries is also strong.”

On the Brics summit, Ramaphosa thanked Xi for supporting South Africa in convening the event.

“We share your view, President Xi, that Brics is a vitally important forum which plays an important role in reform of global governance and in the promotion of multilaterism. South Africa and China have similar views with regards to the expansion of Brics membership and we look forward to the discussions that we are going to have with other Brics leaders later today.”

Comrade Koba
Jul 2, 2007

Marenghi posted:

The mystery of who assassinated Olof Palme becomes less mysterious.

it was obviously those dastardly kurdish communists

ikanreed
Sep 25, 2009

I honestly I have no idea who cannibal[SIC] is and I do not know why I should know.

syq dude, just syq!
Some good quality scare quotes here
North Korea's neighbors issue warnings ahead of attempted 'satellite' launch


quote:

The last one splashed down badly, but this is no laughing matter – Japan's PM thinks it could be a missile

News of the launch was shared with the government of Japan, where the office of prime minister Fumio Kishida issued a statement – translated into English – titled "Instructions by the Prime Minister in Response to Notification that North Korea Plans to Launch a Ballistic Missile, Referred to as a 'Satellite'."

Fair enough, too. A launcher capable of reaching orbit could likely be repurposed as a long-range missile.

Item three in the statement is therefore "Take all possible measures to ensure the safety and security of the Japanese people, including fully preparing for contingencies."

It absolutely is a laughing matter

euphronius
Feb 18, 2009



does anyone know what he is referring to ?

genericnick
Dec 26, 2012

euphronius posted:



does anyone know what he is referring to ?

house number down

mawarannahr
May 21, 2019

Announcement of Visa Restrictions to Address Forced Assimilation in Tibet - United States Department of State

www.state.gov posted:

The State Department is taking steps to impose visa restrictions under the authority of Section 212(a)(3)(C) of the Immigration and Nationality Act on People’s Republic of China (PRC) officials for their involvement in the forcible assimilation of more than one million Tibetan children in government-run boarding schools.  These coercive policies seek to eliminate Tibet’s distinct linguistic, cultural, and religious traditions among younger generations of Tibetans.

We urge PRC authorities to end the coercion of Tibetan children into government-run boarding schools and to cease repressive assimilation policies, both in Tibet and throughout other parts of the PRC.  We will continue to work with our allies and partners to highlight these actions and promote accountability.

Danann
Aug 4, 2013

https://twitter.com/mbrookerhk/status/1693719340476936388

shopping around for unrelated statistics to demonstrate the empire is still strong and totally not rotting

Grapplejack
Nov 27, 2007


bro it's not 1992 no one cares about tibet anymore now it's all Uyghurs! get with the times grandpa!!

stephenthinkpad
Jan 2, 2020
As long as you use USD to calculate gdp, US will never lose number one. Just print 5 billion on demand.

KomradeX
Oct 29, 2011

R. Mute posted:

consistently miserably fail at obtaining a state for your people? convert to anarchism, now you don't need a state. victory achieved. bing bong, so simple

You would think that by the thrid time the US stabbed the Kurds in the back by 1991 they would have stopped trusting us

stephenthinkpad
Jan 2, 2020
https://twitter.com/trtworld/status/1693970835122610529?t=1ge0y6NoLztEASbzKsci9g&s=19

Wait, so the military gave the blessing to the Thaksin's party to form the government (for the third time), but they didn't want Thsksin's daughter, they wanted an old man. Is that the gist of the story?

Also Thaksin is allowed back, quite a win for him.

PoontifexMacksimus
Feb 14, 2012

NeonPunk posted:

Whatever happened to that LK99 thing anyway? This thread was talking about it like this was going to make China into this super futuristic superpower and poo poo like that but now it's like it just disappeared from all conversations everywhere

With the discovery of this tech China is the first civilization to enter the Future Age. Every city has been switched to produce Combat Mechs but it will take about five more turns until China has a big enough stack to win the game. I can understand other players just checking out before then, though.

PoontifexMacksimus
Feb 14, 2012

Maximo Roboto posted:

The Japanese recruited a ton of Taiwanese aborigines for their volunteer brigades

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Takasago_Volunteers

https://warfarehistorynetwork.com/the-imperial-japanese-armys-takasago-volunteers/

https://www.taiwanpanorama.com.tw/Articles/Details?Guid=7e892eff-8e2d-4e01-8a6c-fc21edc8f23d&langId=3&CatId=11

Some of them went to Japan after the war rather than back to Taiwan, and apparently some are honored at Yasukuni

Huh!

The most notable Takasago Volunteer is Teruo Nakamura (Attun Palalin), the last confirmed Japanese holdout, who surrendered on Morotai Island in Indonesia in December 1974. Nakamura was an Amis volunteer and was discovered 29 years, 3 months, and 16 days after the Japanese Instrument of Surrender was signed in August 1945, having lived in solitude in the jungle for almost 20 years after leaving other holdouts in 1956.

PoontifexMacksimus
Feb 14, 2012

Frosted Flake posted:

So I picked up a recent-ish book because of this thread,

Taiwan Under Japanese Colonial Rule, 1895–1945: History, Culture, Memory

and I'm curious to see how this history will be rewritten the same way Eastern European history has. Doesn't this complicate a mythologized independent Taiwan that was never part of China?

The Taiwanese are the indigenous people of China and will defeat the Han with the Great Ghost Dance

Sheng-Ji Yang
Mar 5, 2014



Rip

https://twitter.com/KhaosodEnglish/status/1694165499251405039?t=pPM-8QP6gGR3Kii7cdWLoA&s=19

Mister Bates
Aug 4, 2010

Maximo Roboto posted:

I wonder if there's a Confederate memorial for the Five Civilized Tribes members who sided with the South

monumental piece of poo poo and Cherokee Quisling 'General' Stand Watie's descendants still fly Confederate flags and there is still all sorts of Confederate memorabilia visible around his old hometown

in particular they take a ton of pride in how he was technically the last Confederate military officer to surrender, there's 'LAST TO SURRENDER' shirts and bumper stickers and poo poo you can buy with his face on them, like he's some sort of badass hero, a better Confederate than the actual Confederates were

crepeface
Nov 5, 2004

r*p*f*c*

quote:

While others have opposed Japan’s imminent release of Fukushima nuke water into the Pacific Ocean, Hong Kong authorities are set to be the first to put their policy where their mouths are.

Chief Executive John Lee’s instruction to the SAR government to restrict Japanese seafood imports is a powerful retort to the Kishida regime’s decision to dump.

That’s because Hong Kong punches way above its weight on the issue. The territory’s 7.5 million people are the world’s No. 1 importer of Japanese seafood and agricultural products. Hong Kong accounts for 23% of the global total, far ahead of No. 2 USA at 15%. That’s why the local Japanese consul-general was nervous enough to threaten unspecified “consequences” recently if the boycott went ahead.

And it’s not just the HK government “trying to please” Beijing. The local population, especially the middle-aged and younger generations, have long had a fetish-like admiration for Japanese culture - food, fashion, movies, tours, etc. (I have friends who would only visit Japan on overseas vacations.)

Even ordinary Hong Kongers seem to think the Japanese government has gone too far this time (story below). Some have begun to call for boycotts of Japanese products beyond edibles.

Meanwhile, Tokyo’s imperial Western cronies - who are normally so vociferous about environmental issues - persist with their deafening silence on Fukushima nuke water. Japan is needed as a staging area, key combatant and cannon fodder in the confrontation the US is plotting against China.

https://twitter.com/thonwingp/status/1693923443534975325?s=20

stephenthinkpad
Jan 2, 2020

People speculate that he will be pardoned by the tat king soon. Probably on some health excuses.

Yadoppsi
May 10, 2009

strange feelings re Daisy posted:

Yes. Their founder and thought leader Abdullah Ocalan switched from Marxism Leninism to a new philosophy of "democratic confederalism" influenced by the works of Murray Bookchin. The PKK and wider Kurdish territory also adopted this model.
https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Democratic_confederalism

To be fair, from what I can tell reading interviews of western volunteers who imbedded in the YPG cadres instead of the foreign auxiliary is that although their ideal society is a federation of city communes they organize the party still along disciplined, democratic centralism, Leninist lines to bring it about.

It would be a very interesting to observe how that contradiction was resolved dialectically if the Kurds were even given to breathing room to do so.

Orange Devil
Oct 1, 2010

Wullie's reign cannae smother the flames o' equality!

Mister Bates posted:

monumental piece of poo poo and Cherokee Quisling 'General' Stand Watie's descendants still fly Confederate flags and there is still all sorts of Confederate memorabilia visible around his old hometown

in particular they take a ton of pride in how he was technically the last Confederate military officer to surrender, there's 'LAST TO SURRENDER' shirts and bumper stickers and poo poo you can buy with his face on them, like he's some sort of badass hero, a better Confederate than the actual Confederates were

Strong "French SS volunteers last fighting force in Berlin" vibe here.

Frosted Flake
Sep 13, 2011

Semper Shitpost Ubique

I think LSU press has a book on the Native American Civil War. My takeaway was that Native Americans thought it would buy them more time, like when they had triangulated Britain, Spain and France against each other or how Woodland Indians very successfully balanced the colonial powers to prevent settlement in the Ohio valley.

Ultimately, the Confederates would not have honoured agreements over time once they recovered from a position of relative weakness.

Raskolnikov38
Mar 3, 2007

We were somewhere around Manila when the drugs began to take hold
the Cherokee, Choctaw, and Chickasaw had also adopted plantation agriculture and racial slavery that further aligned with the confederacy. the creek and Seminole had different slavery systems but regardless the pro-southern factions in all the tribes drove out all the pro-union members prior to joining the confederacy

Cao Ni Ma
May 25, 2010



https://www.businessinsider.com/tsmc-phoenix-arizona-chip-factory-taiwan-semiconductor-management-safety-workers-2023-8

Womp womp

Imagine tying yourself to a dying empire across the ocean instead of your ascendant brothers and sisters next door

In Training
Jun 28, 2008

Cao Ni Ma posted:

https://www.businessinsider.com/tsmc-phoenix-arizona-chip-factory-taiwan-semiconductor-management-safety-workers-2023-8

Womp womp

Imagine tying yourself to a dying empire across the ocean instead of your ascendant brothers and sisters next door

Lol that, in response to awful project management from bosses & rampant workplace safety problems, the Union's petition isnasking the US govt to deny visas for taiwanese labor.

gradenko_2000
Oct 5, 2010

HELL SERPENT
Lipstick Apathy

Raskolnikov38 posted:

the Cherokee, Choctaw, and Chickasaw had also adopted plantation agriculture and racial slavery that further aligned with the confederacy. the creek and Seminole had different slavery systems but regardless the pro-southern factions in all the tribes drove out all the pro-union members prior to joining the confederacy

wow huh sounds like they were the real racists after all

Frosted Flake
Sep 13, 2011

Semper Shitpost Ubique

It’s pretty obvious that war with Taiwan is being driven by America, and doesn’t reflect Beijing actually doing anything differently, so my question for the Taiwanese compradors would be why declare independence now, to destroy your country as part of DC’s plan to contain China, rather than maintain the status quo?

It’s very clear that the timing comes from the US empire being in serious decline with a vanishingly small window to use their remaining military advantage (destroying Taiwan in the process, remember), but there’s no reason why independence, an effective declaration of war, should coincide from a Taiwanese perspective.

There was not a sudden media narrative for Macau and Hong Kong to fight to the finish as the Portuguese and British Empires in the orient faded away, and I think, other than those who fled to Vancouver, there was not a feeling that handover was existential unless Thatcher decided it was going to be a military confrontation. Why should this be any different?

gradenko_2000
Oct 5, 2010

HELL SERPENT
Lipstick Apathy

Frosted Flake posted:

There was not a sudden media narrative for Macau and Hong Kong to fight to the finish as the Portuguese and British Empires in the orient faded away, and I think, other than those who fled to Vancouver, there was not a feeling that handover was existential unless Thatcher decided it was going to be a military confrontation. Why should this be any different?

There was a sudden media narrative for Hong Kong to fight to the finish in 2019

fuckin' lol, they tried to create a pro-democracy movement on the back of an axe murderer fleeing prosecution

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AnimeIsTrash
Jun 30, 2018

Cao Ni Ma posted:

https://www.businessinsider.com/tsmc-phoenix-arizona-chip-factory-taiwan-semiconductor-management-safety-workers-2023-8

Womp womp

Imagine tying yourself to a dying empire across the ocean instead of your ascendant brothers and sisters next door

why are they opening chip plants in the area with like no water? lmfao

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