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If trey was white then it would be a problem for dak.
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Diva Cupcake posted:Lance isn’t starting in relief of a hurt Dak either. He’s firmly behind Cooper Rush as a developmental lottery ticket. 4th rounder for a developmental lottery ticket. Yeesh.
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Aug 26, 2023 04:02
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I don't know guys, the plan of trading a 4th round pick for a QB who has thrown 100 passes and expecting him to be a "solid, dependable backup" seems like it might have several load-bearing flaws.
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fsif posted:4th rounder for a developmental lottery ticket. Yeesh. Raiders paid a 5th this past draft. *shrug*
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Aug 26, 2023 04:12
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The Packers dropped a 5th on a QB who's 2 years older than Lance who had like infinitely more college experience, explicitly for him to be a backup QB.
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fsif posted:4th rounder for a developmental lottery ticket. Yeesh. Not just that, but also a fair chunk of money as well. It's only half of what San Fran was on the hook for, but it;'s still $10m over two years they're locked into now
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Aug 26, 2023 04:14
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SKULL.GIF posted:The Packers dropped a 5th on a QB who's 2 years older than Lance who had like infinitely more college experience, explicitly for him to be a backup QB. And it seems to be paying off.
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Aug 26, 2023 04:16
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Hot Diggity! posted:https://twitter.com/Danny_Heifetz/status/1695222216470786092?t=Fq2lbpUxI9nWkhNpMSYBRQ&s=19 Sounds about right, supposedly the Ravens were sniffing around a bit
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Aug 26, 2023 04:24
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wandler20 posted:And it seems to be paying off. Right, that's what I mean. Clifford's older, more experienced, has a long history of learning a system and executing it even if his execution doesn't necessarily point at "NFL superstar" potential. He's also like way cheaper. Lance's pure raw potential and couldn't get any traction under one of the better coaches of the modern system, this feels like a vast overpay on Dallas's behalf.
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Aug 26, 2023 04:24
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Even if hypothetically the Cowboys would want to get away from Dak next season, it's only a 61m dead cap hit in 2024, nbd.
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Aug 26, 2023 04:26
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I just feel bad for Lance. Dude just had some absolutely abysmal luck.
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Aug 26, 2023 04:54
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Acebuckeye13 posted:I just feel bad for Lance. Dude just had some absolutely abysmal luck. It's gotta be a mind gently caress to go at pick number 3 and then just like never play football again
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Aug 26, 2023 05:01
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Maybe they'll make some stupid rear end Lance packages 
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There's that new rule about emergency QBs, meaning that a 3rd string QB on the 53 man can dress and not count towards the 46 man total, and can only enter if QB1 and 2 are injured. So that makes 3rd string QBs marginally more valuable.
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Acebuckeye13 posted:I just feel bad for Lance. Dude just had some absolutely abysmal luck. I mean, yeah, but also he's looked prettttty bad. I mean, Brock Purdy had limited opportunities and took every advantage of them. He won the job by stepping up. Sure, Lance has been a little screwed over but that's the NFL. Hell, Aiden O'Connell has looked like he belongs in limited opportunities. At some point you have to perform. Maybe sitting behind and learning will be good for him, hell it worked for Geno Smith and that's a goddam miracle. fake edit: I feel like we all talked about how bad Josh Rosen was screwed for a little bit there but like, was he? Is Zach Wilson being screwed? I feel like he's as close to Lance's situation as anybody. kiimo fucked around with this message at 07:43 on Aug 26, 2023 |
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kiimo posted:I mean, yeah, but also he's looked prettttty bad. I mean, Brock Purdy had limited opportunities and took every advantage of them. He won the job by stepping up. Sure, Lance has been a little screwed over but that's the NFL. Hell, Aiden O'Connell has looked like he belongs in limited opportunities. At some point you have to perform. Josh Rosen was really poo poo and went to like 5 different teams and sucked badly at all of them. Goons just had a hard dick for him for some weird reason. I think a lot of people thought that Rosen was a late first early 2nd kind of guy and a a lot of teams wanted nothing to do with him. I didn't see anything that made me think he would be a success and I never understood why people loved him. Lance had a meteoric rise and everyone was talking about immense potential but he was one of the few guys who get hyped by draftniks and teams seem to buy into the hype. Every year there's someone like Hendon Hooker where the draft nerds go "oh this guy could be a dark horse" and then draft day comes and they tumble and every team doesn't rate them, never rated them and it was just self perpetuating content. I feel like everyone bought into the Lance hype including the bigger media, the nfl front offices and fans / amateur draft coverage dudes. Which to me at least makes it a little more surprising.
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BlindSite posted:Josh Rosen was really poo poo and went to like 5 different teams and sucked badly at all of them. Goons just had a hard dick for him for some weird reason. Remember how goons treated Dan Lefevour
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Hendon Hooker is a dynasty dream. Keep hope alive baby
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BlindSite posted:Lance had a meteoric rise and everyone was talking about immense potential but he was one of the few guys who get hyped by draftniks and teams seem to buy into the hype. He has every tool you could ever ask for, is supposedly coachable--or at least scouted as such--as far as being willing to do the work there. Just for reasons outside of his fault has never really played all that much. And it turns out that bit is important. People bust out all the time who have those attributes, just for me it feels like more of a shame for him than most. It isn't like he created a pandemic that shut down his college team for his second year, didn't ask to have his ankle completely ruined in his second NFL start. I guess I just don't have any reason to dislike this guy from everything I've ever heard about him, but everything has gone wrong for him and he might be permanently done.
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Aug 26, 2023 08:17
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The only thing I dislike about him is his hairline. I understand that's petty but yeah sorry
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a neat cape posted:Remember how goons treated Dan Lefevour Now there’s a name I haven’t thought of in over a decade
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I think the 49er are confidant in Purdy, more than anything. No one's mentioned that McCarthy, a former QB coach, also coached up Rodgers who sat behind Farve for two years, I wonder if he can do the same for Lance? Miss Lonelyhearts fucked around with this message at 08:34 on Aug 26, 2023 |
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Dallas is just one of the more bizarre teams for someone to land. Spending actual resources, even if it's less essential ones on a QB3 because of that new rule seems like mismanagement because if you even get to that point of needing said QB, a lot has gone wrong along the way. Teams like Atlanta, Washington, or even as a joke - Denver seemed like more immediate places that make more sense for a guy who needs reps to see if he's just a mystery bag or a person who can play. Being buried in the Dallas depth chart just seems like it's over for him until 2025, if he even gets a chance then.
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Harlock posted:Dallas is just one of the more bizarre teams for someone to land. Spending actual resources, even if it's less essential ones on a QB3 because of that new rule seems like mismanagement because if you even get to that point of needing said QB, a lot has gone wrong along the way. https://twitter.com/CamInman/status/1695238679579824606?s=20 It's over for him if he's a tank option post-Dak, it's extremely over for him if he's waiting for post-Allen, it's over for him that a team saw him in year 3 and still preferred Darnold. Those were the real options
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Chris James 2 posted:It's over for him if he's a tank option post-Dak, it's extremely over for him if he's waiting for post-Allen, it's over for him that a team saw him in year 3 and still preferred Darnold. Those were the real options For a backup just in case the Bills would have made some sense, maybe. It seems obvious no one was in on him as a potential starter if this was the market. Isn't like we don't have plenty of teams who need one. Which...again...brings up the question why did this require a 4th if this was the market? This seems like a 6th or 7th round throwaway trade.
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Mid-Life Crisis posted:Oh god the bills are that desperate eh He’s probably someone they could build a similar offense around
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Kyle Allen has been awful and Matt Barkley is still Matt Barkley. I could see the Bills making lowball offers at trying to improve qb depth.
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Grittybeard posted:For a backup just in case the Bills would have made some sense, maybe.
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Yeah as bearish as I am on Lance, he at least carries a 5% chance that he could end up actually good.
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You guys just made me google Matt Barkley to see if he was really still in the league or if this was some weird joke
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sharknado slashfic posted:You guys just made me google Matt Barkley to see if he was really still in the league or if this was some weird joke You should see how he looked in preseason so far. I will never understand why playoff teams are fine going into the season without a viable backup. You're just straight up ceding every game your QB1 doesn't play.
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sharknado slashfic posted:You guys just made me google Matt Barkley to see if he was really still in the league or if this was some weird joke He gets paid to be Josh Allen's friend
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i would have liked to see trey lance on the cincinnati bengals. you don't practice hosed, but you can practice hosed up poo poo.... the crazZzy offense. c an you stop it? yeah
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is pepsi ok posted:You should see how he looked in preseason so far. “We don’t practice hosed,” etc etc
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kiimo posted:I mean, Brock Purdy had limited opportunities and took every advantage of them. He won the job by stepping up. yeah that's what they mean by luck. Lance didn’t get those opportunities to shine in games; he got a monsoon and then like 20 minutes before he was injured. Purdy obviously wasn't hot poo poo in training camp or practice last season but he managed to execute the offense when given the chance; Lance didn’t really get one, his "limited opportunities" were even more limited
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I can kind of see the appeal for teams like the Bills and the Cowboys where their starter can run that they'd want a backup that they could theoretically use without rebuilding their gameplan around a less mobile guy. Which is kind of the opposite of the situation in SF, where their playbook doesn't take advantage of what Lance can bring.
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indigi posted:Lance didn’t really get one, his "limited opportunities" were even more limited Eight games, four starts, three years, third overall. And then you turn in a mediocre-but-promising performance in the second preseason game. Yeah, time to move on. John Lynch must have said "clean slate" and "fresh start" five times in his interview last night. That's great for Trey, and we have a solid backup. Here's the breakdown of his play versus the Broncos last week. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EB5Gchy9cVo
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