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Will Stereotype
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fall in love? 10 8.33%
have a transcendent life altering experience that elevates their consciousness to a higher state? 14 11.67%
take some cool photos? 7 5.83%
get jumped and sent to the hospital by furries? 32 26.67%
waste his time and money? 57 47.50%
Total: 120 votes
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AnimeIsTrash
Jun 30, 2018

please sir, a black rock city ticket please

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Mr Hootington
Jul 24, 2008

I'M HAVING A HOOT EATING CORNETTE THE LONG WAY

quote:

Where Does My Ticket Money Go?
You’re paying $575 for a ticket to Black Rock City and may be going in with a friend on a vehicle pass for $140. That’s more than $700 before you even get gas in your car or buy plane tickets, which we know can put folks in a financial pinch. Participants go to great lengths to participate in Burning Man, and we’d like to let you know where your ticket money goes. Our hope is to give a little insight as to why tickets cost what they do.

Where Does the Money Come From?
Importantly, nearly all of the revenue used to build and operate Black Rock City comes from tickets purchased by participants. This differs from almost any other large scale event that depend on various forms of revenue. Burning Man opts out of:

Vending: Vending is when merchants are allowed to set up booths selling t-shirts, swag, food, drinks and other products to participants during an event. Vendors pay event organizers for the privilege of being there. Gifting is essential to the Burning Man experience and we would never compromise on this, but it’s important to note that unlike other large-scale events, we do not offset event production costs by allowing vendors.
Corporate Sponsors: When you’re at an event and you see a corporate name or logo, that company has paid event organizers big bucks for that visibility. The sponsors of Nike Pavilion and Verizon Stage see them as marketing opportunities and those funds come out of their advertising budgets. Our principle of Decommodification ensures our landscape is not cluttered with corporate plugs (and we encourage you to cover logos on anything you bring with you!). But that also means we do not accept the significant revenue that many festivals earn through those corporate sponsorships.
RVs and Camping: Some festivals charge extra for placement in certain areas or to bring something other than a tent such as moving vans, trailers, or an RV. Burning Man doesn’t charge differently based on where people stay or what they choose to bring.
To be fair, we also don’t do any promotional marketing of the event and we don’t pay performers or entertainers, which are significant costs incurred by other events. Even with that cost savings, unlike other events, Black Rock City is a fully functioning temporary metropolis that exists for over a week and is built in the middle of a remote desert (the cost of which increases yearly).

Where Does the Money Go?
The Black Rock Desert is public land, but we don’t get to use it for free. We work with the Bureau of Land Management and other government agencies that permit the event, and we reimburse them for each and every expense they incur as a result of their work with us. It also takes a lot of equipment and hours of labor to put things together out there. Each year we see increases in the costs of our permits, logistics, and operations.

Our costs are also increasing because we’re making serious investments in expanding our impact around the globe. Burning Man is no longer confined to the Black Rock Desert; Black Rock City is a springboard for bringing radical and creative ideas to the world. In 2014 Burning Man became a nonprofit organization with a mission to make Burning Man experiences and values accessible to more people, in more places, more of the time.

We are bringing the inspiration, creativity, inclusion, and yes, some of the funds, from Black Rock City out into a world that, especially in these turbulent times, could really use it. If you want to know more about Burning Man Project’s finances, you can view our IRS Form 990. You can also learn about our nonprofit programs in Black Rock City and beyond in our most recent Annual Report.

Feels Villeneuve
Oct 7, 2007

Setter is Better.

War and Pieces posted:

Trust me the only type of aid your getting from burning man is an autoimmune disease

copy
Jul 26, 2007

Pepe Silvia Browne posted:

means testing discounted tickets to burning man

lol

Feels Villeneuve
Oct 7, 2007

Setter is Better.
how has the burning man NGO's mission to "make Burning Man experiences and values accessible to more people, in more places, more of the time." been going

Hatebag
Jun 17, 2008


student loan forgiveness for people that run a dick sucking booth in a disadvantaged part of burning man for 3 years

Fried Watermelon
Dec 29, 2008


Feels Villeneuve posted:

how has the burning man NGO's mission to "make Burning Man experiences and values accessible to more people, in more places, more of the time." been going

they had virtual burns during covid

Mr Hootington
Jul 24, 2008

I'M HAVING A HOOT EATING CORNETTE THE LONG WAY
Wearing a maga hat to burning man and everyone keeps asking me to fix their tents

Feels Villeneuve
Oct 7, 2007

Setter is Better.

Mr Hootington posted:

In 2014 Burning Man became a nonprofit organization with a mission to make Burning Man experiences and values accessible to more people, in more places, more of the time.

the world's first NGO dedicated to spreading AIDS

Al!
Apr 2, 2010

:coolspot::coolspot::coolspot::coolspot::coolspot:
people used to just show up to burning man. do they shoot you if they find out you snuck in

Mr Hootington
Jul 24, 2008

I'M HAVING A HOOT EATING CORNETTE THE LONG WAY

Al! posted:

people used to just show up to burning man. do they shoot you if they find out you snuck in

Probably. Some climate protestors were almost shot

Nice and hot piss
Feb 1, 2004

Mr Hootington posted:

Probably. Some climate protestors were almost shot

During the vanilla WoW days I attended a raid on stormwind city with my level 50 priest with a lot of other people. I think that's probably cooler than burning man

Al!
Apr 2, 2010

:coolspot::coolspot::coolspot::coolspot::coolspot:
naruto run into burning man

Homeless Friend
Jul 16, 2007

Mr Hootington posted:

You are at Sturgis for the liberal petite

lmfao its true

KirbyKhan
Mar 20, 2009



Soiled Meat

Mr Hootington posted:

Means tested tickets lmao

Al!
Apr 2, 2010

:coolspot::coolspot::coolspot::coolspot::coolspot:
just a little sexual coercion on the playa

The Saucer Hovers
May 16, 2005

War and Pieces
Apr 24, 2022

DID NOT VOTE FOR FETTERMAN

Stereotype posted:

also while there are clearly some camps with just boatloads of cash, most of the people are not rich tech bros. I haven’t actually found any billionaires, tho I heard they have some camps out near 9:00 and G. I imagine they mostly stay over there.

if you have enough PTO and cash to go on a week long vacation you're rich

tristeham
Jul 31, 2022

Pepe Silvia Browne posted:

This watch... this could have been 4 more tickets to Burning Man. This ring could have been an e-scooter covered in pipe cleaners and LEDs!

tristeham
Jul 31, 2022

AnimeIsTrash posted:

please sir, a black rock city ticket please



lol

Stereotype
Apr 24, 2010

College Slice
lol if it rains

BoothBaberGinsburg
Jan 4, 2021

Stereotype posted:

lol if it rains

gonna have to change all the signs from "burning man" to "bathing man"

KirbyKhan
Mar 20, 2009



Soiled Meat

corona familiar posted:

have they Burned the Man yet

Checkig in

Al!
Apr 2, 2010

:coolspot::coolspot::coolspot::coolspot::coolspot:
woodstock 99

tokin opposition
Apr 8, 2021

I don't jailbreak the androids, I set them free.

WATCH MARS EXPRESS (2023)
the only thing I know about burning man is that my favorite author when I was 13 wrote about it:

quote:

Attending Burning Man made me simultaneously one of the most photographed people on the planet and one of the least surveilled humans in the modern world.


I adjusted my burnoose, covering up my nose and mouth and tucking its edge into place under the lower rim of my big, scratched goggles. The sun was high, the temperature well over a hundred degrees, and breathing through the embroidered cotton scarf made it even more stifling. But the wind had just kicked up, and there was a lot of playa dust -- fine gypsum sand, deceptively soft and powdery, but alkali enough to make your eyes burn and your skin crack -- and after two days in the desert, I had learned that it was better to be hot than to choke.


Pretty much everyone was holding a camera of some kind -- mostly phones, of course, but also big SLRs and even old-fashioned film cameras, including a genuine antique plate camera whose operator hid out from the dust under a huge black cloth that made me hot just to look at it. Everything was ruggedized for the fine, blowing dust, mostly through the simple expedient of sticking it in a zip-lock bag, which is what I'd done with my phone. I turned around slowly to get a panorama and saw that the man walking past me was holding the string for a gigantic helium balloon a hundred yards overhead, from which dangled a digital video camera. Also, the man holding the balloon was naked.


Well, not entirely. He was wearing shoes. I understood that: playa dust is hard on your feet. They call it playa-foot, when the alkali dust dries out your skin so much that it starts to crack and peel. Everyone agrees that playa-foot sucks.


Burning Man is a festival held every Labor Day weekend in the middle of Nevada's Black Rock desert. Fifty thousand people show up in this incredibly harsh, hot, dusty environment, and build a huge city -- Black Rock City -- and participate. "Spectator" is a vicious insult in Black Rock City. Everyone's supposed to be doing stuff and yeah, also admiring everyone else's stuff (hence all the cameras). At Burning Man, everyone is the show.


I wasn't naked, but the parts of me that were showing were decorated with elaborate mandalas laid on with colored zinc. A lady as old as my mother, wearing a tie-dyed wedding dress, had offered to paint me that morning, and she'd done a great job. That's another thing about Burning Man: it runs on a gift economy, which means that you generally go around offering nice things to strangers a lot, which makes for a surprisingly pleasant environment. The designs the painter had laid down made me look amazing, and there were plenty of cameras aiming my way as I ambled across the open desert toward Nine O'Clock.


Black Rock City is a pretty modern city: it has public sanitation (portable chem-toilets decorated with raunchy poems reminding you not to put anything but toilet paper in them), electricity and Internet service (at Six O'Clock, the main plaza in the middle of the ring-shaped city), something like a government (the nonprofit that runs Burning Man), several local newspapers (all of them doing better than the newspapers in the real world!), a dozen radio stations, an all-volunteer police force (the Black Rock Rangers, who patrolled wearing tutus or parts of chicken suits or glitter paint), and many other amenities associated with the modern world.


But BRC has no official surveillance. There are no CCTVs, no checkpoints -- at least not after the main gate, where tickets are collected -- no ID checks at all, no bag-searches, no RFID sniffers, no mobile phone companies logging your movements. There was also no mobile phone service. No one drives -- except for the weird art cars registered with the Department of Mutant Vehicles -- so there were no license plate cameras and no sniffers for your E-Z Passes. The WiFi was open and unlogged. Attendees at Burning Man agreed not to use their photos commercially without permission, and it was generally considered polite to ask people before taking their portraits.


So there I was, having my picture taken through the blowing dust as I gulped down water from the water-jug I kept clipped to my belt at all times, sucking at the stubby built-in straw under cover of the blue-and-silver burnoose, simultaneously observed and observer, simultaneously observed and unsurveilled, and it was glorious.


"Wahoo!" I shouted to the dust and the art cars and the naked people and the enormous wooden splay-armed effigy perched atop a pyramid straight ahead of me in the middle of the desert. This was The Man, and we'd burn him in three nights, and that's why it was called Burning Man. I couldn't wait.


"You're in a good mood," a jawa said from behind me. Even with the tone-shifter built into its dust-mask, the cloaked sand-person had an awfully familiar voice.


"Ange?" I said. We'd been missing each other all that day, ever since I'd woken up an hour before her and snuck out of the tent to catch the sunrise (which was awesome), and we'd been leaving each other notes back at camp all day about where we were heading next. Ange had spent the summer spinning up the jawa robes, working with cooling towels that trapped sweat as it evaporated, channeling it back over her skin for extra evaporative cooling. She'd hand-dyed it a mottled brown, tailored it into the characteristic monkish robe shape, and added crossed bandoliers. These exaggerated her breasts, which made the whole thing entirely and totally warsome. She hadn't worn it out in public yet, and now, in the dust and the glare, she was undoubtedly the greatest sand-person I'd ever met. I hugged her and she hugged me back so hard it knocked the wind out of me, one of her trademarked wrestling-hold cuddles.


"I smudged your paint," she said through the voice-shifter after we unclinched.


"I got zinc on your robes," I said.


She shrugged. "Like it matters! We both look fabulous. Now, what have you seen and what have you done and where have you been, young man?"


"Where to start?" I said. I'd been wandering up and down the radial avenues that cut through the city, lined with big camps sporting odd exhibits -- one camp where a line of people were efficiently making snow cones for anyone who wanted them, working with huge blocks of ice and a vicious ice-shaver. Then a camp where someone had set up a tall, linoleum-covered slide that you could toboggan down on a plastic magic carpet, after first dumping a gallon of waste water over the lino to make it plenty slippery. It was a very clever way to get rid of grey water (that's water that you've showered in, or used to wash your dishes or hands -- black water being water that's got poo or pee in it). One of the other Burning Man rules was "leave no trace" -- when we left, we'd take every scrap of Black Rock City with us, and that included all the grey water. But the slide made for a great grey water evaporator, and every drop of liquid that the sliders helped turn into vapor was a drop of liquid the camp wouldn't have to pack all the way back to Reno.


There'd been pervy camps where they were teaching couples to tie each other up; a "junk food glory hole" that you put your mouth over in order to receive a mysterious and unhealthy treat (I'd gotten a mouthful of some kind of super-sugary breakfast cereal studded with coconut "marshmallows" shaped like astrological symbols); a camp where they were offering free service for playa bikes (beater bikes caked with playa dust and decorated with glitter and fun fur and weird fetishes and bells); a tea-house camp where I'd been given a very precisely made cup of some kind of Japanese tea I'd never heard of that was delicious and sharp; camps full of whimsy; camps full of physics; camps full of optical illusions; camps full of men and women; a kids' camp full of screaming kids running around playing some kind of semi-supervised outdoor game -- things I'd never suspected existed.


And I'd only seen a tiny slice of Black Rock City.


I told Ange about as much as I could remember and she nodded or said "ooh," or "aah," or demanded to know where I'd seen things. Then she told me about the stuff she'd seen -- a camp where topless women were painting one others' breasts, a camp where an entire brass band was performing, a camp where they'd built a medieval trebuchet that fired ancient, broken-down pianos down a firing range, the audience holding its breath in total silence while they waited for the glorious crash each piano made when it exploded into flinders on the hardpack desert.


"Can you believe this place?" Ange said, jumping up and down on the spot in excitement, making her bandoliers jingle.


"I know -- can you believe we almost didn't make it?"


I'd always sort of planned on going out to see The Man burn -- after all, I grew up in San Francisco, the place with the largest concentration of burners in the world. But it took a lot of work to participate in Burning Man. First, there was the matter of packing for a camping trip in the middle of the desert where you had to pack in everything -- including water -- and then pack it all out again, everything you didn't leave behind in the porta-potties. And there were very strict rules about what could go in those. Then there was the gift economy: figuring out what I could bring to the desert that someone else might want. Plus the matter of costumes, cool art and inventions to show off... Every time I started to think about it, I just about had a nervous breakdown.


But this year, of all years, I'd made it. This was the year both my parents lost their jobs. The year I'd dropped out of college rather than take on any more student debt. The year I'd spent knocking on every door I could find, looking for paid work -- anything! -- without getting even a nibble.


"Never underestimate the determination of a kid who is cash-poor and time-rich," Ange said solemnly, pulling down her face mask with one hand and yanking me down to kiss me with the other.


"That's catchy," I said. "You should print T-shirts."


"Oh," she said. "That reminds me. I got a T-shirt!"


She threw open her robe to reveal a proud red tee that read MAKE BEAUTIFUL ART AND SET IT ON FIRE, laid out like those British "Keep Calm and Carry On" posters, with the Burning Man logo where the crown should be.


"Just in time, too," I said, holding my nose. I was only partly kidding. At the last minute, we'd both decided to ditch half the clothes we'd planned on bringing so that we could fit more parts for Secret Project X-1 into our backpacks. Between that and taking "bits and pits" baths by rubbing the worst of the dried sweat, body paint, sunscreen, and miscellaneous fluids off with baby wipes once a day, neither of us smelled very nice.


She shrugged. "The playa provides." It was one of the Burning Man mottoes we'd picked up on the first day, when we both realized that we thought the other one had brought the sunscreen, and just as we were about to get into an argument about it, we stumbled on Sunscreen Camp, where some nice people had slathered us all over with SPF 50 and given us some baggies to take with. "The playa provides!" they'd said, and wished us well.

KirbyKhan
Mar 20, 2009



Soiled Meat

tokin opposition posted:

the only thing I know about burning man is that my favorite author when I was 13 wrote about it:

This paragraph made me vomit


quote:

She threw open her robe to reveal a proud red tee that read MAKE BEAUTIFUL ART AND SET IT ON FIRE, laid out like those British "Keep Calm and Carry On" posters, with the Burning Man logo where the crown should be.

Mr Hootington
Jul 24, 2008

I'M HAVING A HOOT EATING CORNETTE THE LONG WAY
Going to burning man is a must for those young progressive achievers who want to make a difference within NGO or the App circles.

The Saucer Hovers
May 16, 2005

here i am at burning man, nearly twenty years after if was popular enough to be the basis for episodes of fox sitcoms

Lacrosse
Jun 16, 2010

>:V


Fried Watermelon posted:

they had virtual burns during covid

They still do on Second Life.

Lacrosse
Jun 16, 2010

>:V


Stereotype posted:

lol if it rains

It's absolutely going to rain and it looks like all of Friday so get your poo poo squared up before midnight.

Mr Hootington
Jul 24, 2008

I'M HAVING A HOOT EATING CORNETTE THE LONG WAY
What is it like having some dude dump a load in your rear end while explaining how his app that gives live updates on artic ice melt will change consciousness?

Weed Wolf
Jul 30, 2004

War and Pieces posted:

if you have enough PTO and cash to go on a week long vacation you're rich

yeah this is the burning man filter right here

BONGHITZ
Jan 1, 1970

Homeless Friend posted:

lol @ option 1 in the poll

i voted for this option and it looks like im the only one

please vote folks, he needs our support

Weed Wolf
Jul 30, 2004


54% of burning man attendees in 2022 made over 75k a year.
40% in 2022 made over 100k a year

AnimeIsTrash
Jun 30, 2018

Weed Wolf posted:



54% of burning man attendees in 2022 made over 75k a year.
40% in 2022 made over 100k a year

what type of dumb motherfucker is going to burning man on a bus boy salary

DaysBefore
Jan 24, 2019

Weed Wolf posted:



54% of burning man attendees in 2022 made over 75k a year.
40% in 2022 made over 100k a year

gently caress yeah

Pepe Silvia Browne
Jan 1, 2007

Weed Wolf posted:



54% of burning man attendees in 2022 made over 75k a year.
40% in 2022 made over 100k a year

looks like some of the posters itt have a little growing up to do when it comes to assuming how much money the average burning man attendee has, smdh

Weed Wolf
Jul 30, 2004


"lol"

AnimeIsTrash
Jun 30, 2018

more latinos think theyre white than asians

thats pathetic

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Al!
Apr 2, 2010

:coolspot::coolspot::coolspot::coolspot::coolspot:

Weed Wolf posted:



54% of burning man attendees in 2022 made over 75k a year.
40% in 2022 made over 100k a year

that covid salary bump

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