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LividLiquid posted:"They're literally trying to replace workers with robots" hits loving everybody where they live, save, like, 1%ers. Even my Reagan-era republican uncle hates seeing self-checkouts in grocery stores. But he doesn’t want regulation of course, he believes that if he goes to the human-attended checkout lane enough times, the free market will magically provide a competing grocery store with no self-checkouts.
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All-too-common, sadly. I'm with your dad in that I won't play ball on that poo poo and only use the real checkout lanes, but I have no illusions that it'll change a fuckin' thing aside from helping me sleep at night. I threw a big shitfit to the manager of my local grocery store when they started charging a quarter to use a shopping cart, though, because, in his words, "too many homeless people were stealing them," and I have to imagine a lot of other people did too, 'cause that policy only lasted about a month. Too bad all of America didn't throw a big fit when they started making us do the checkers' jobs, but I have a feeling the fact that we didn't and now the lines irritatingly long at every store because they only ever have like a single checker no matter how busy it is isn't a factor here. If people are gonna' keep waking up to capitalism being bullshit, as they have been in the last decade with no signs of it slowing down, it's gonna' be a bunch of little stuff like that chipping away at their dogma.
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Now the rest of the world gets to learn what loving monsters Bobbie Kotic, Yves Guillemot, and Andrew Wilson are, and how they're the David Zaslav, Bob Iger, and Ted Sarandos of video games 
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Someone with knowledge: do you see this impacting the strike against the AMPTP at all? I presume they wouldn’t really care.
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Hard to say, since IIRC voice actors doing non-Union work isn’t particularly uncommon.
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 Pretty sure the VAs you hear in everything, such as Steve Blum, Nolan North, Yuri Lowenthal etc are all union actors.
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With how much has come out about the industry recently, I'm fully expecting to find out Yuri Lowenthal got paid more by a retired hillbilly english teacher for half an hour of work on a podcast than Insomniac for 2 and a half AAA video games as Spider-Man DarklyDreaming fucked around with this message at 00:09 on Sep 4, 2023 |
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The worst VA thing I can remember is the guy who voiced the main character in GTA4 in the main game plus the two story expansions rightly complained about getting paid basically nothing for that job, and then if you look at his IMDb his career kind of died after that.
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Thou shalt not bite the hand that feeds you, said people who only fed you half of a tic tac.
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Bloody Pom posted:
And there are probably dozens of soundalikes who will work for peanuts. I really don't see the game companies giving too much of a gently caress since there are so many non union VAs ready to go. I want to say that Netherealms was on the union blacklist for a while and they just recast the VAs while MK11 still sold a billion copies.
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Given Atlus and Nintendo among others use non-union VAs, I'm not sure how effective this will be
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Note that voice actors have an even bigger reason to fight against AI than movie actors
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Part of the problem for VAs is the companies can just go to Texas where the OTHER giant voice actor community is and Texas is a right to work state and pay whatever they want. A lot of people got their start there like Laura Bailey and Travis Willingham - in fact it was nicknamed the Texodus to leave for LA - but you can't really have a full-time job as a voice actor in Texas because it doesn't pay very well so generally all of them also do other stuff on the side, be it voiceover work, directing, scripting, etc. There's been talk now and then unionization but Texas isn't friendly to... Texas isn't friendly.
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Just from my friends and people I work with, a lot of stage performers who are Actors Equity (separate union) also do voiceover work, and are SAG. I can only speak to the Houston theater scene on this. Edit: Yeah also Texas sucks for a lot of reasons, and we are currently having some union negotiations that. . . aren't going great.
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fart blood posted:Someone with knowledge: do you see this impacting the strike against the AMPTP at all? I presume they wouldn’t really care. I bet the AMPTP spin will be “now there are fewer jobs for them to take, surely the union will collapse now”
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47 million versus half a billion. Now I'm just a simple country goon but that doesn't seem like a good tradeoff.
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I guess it was in a tweet that was posted before but is that it's estimated what the unions are asking for will cost the studios about 50 million a year ?
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Very few strikes and work stoppages are ever *Just* about money from the labor side either. Not having to literally die for the job is usually the biggest motivator
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https://www.vulture.com/2023/09/2023-sag-and-wga-strike-picket-line-updates-week-9.html Curious to see if that number will decrease as the strike continues...
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Narcissus1916 posted:https://www.vulture.com/2023/09/2023-sag-and-wga-strike-picket-line-updates-week-9.html This number appears to be an increase from the last one I saw but I can’t find the link.
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Narcissus1916 posted:https://www.vulture.com/2023/09/2023-sag-and-wga-strike-picket-line-updates-week-9.html It might stay steady since most Americans aren’t directly impacted by the strikes and there’s a vast ocean of content available to stream right now.
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They're just going to create cable TV again.quote:The new bundles are coming, according to Warner Bros. Discovery CEO David Zaslav.
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They also want paid.
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“Great writers, directors, actors, they want their content to be seen,” says man single handedly responsible for kicking off the age of media erasure and scarcity.
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nine-gear crow posted:“Great writers, directors, actors, they want their content to be seen,” says man single handedly responsible for kicking off the age of media erasure and scarcity. *hastily deletes Westworld from HBO server*
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He knows they want that, therefore it's a valuable resource for him to control.
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Khanstant posted:He knows they want that, therefore it's a valuable resource for him to control. One does not truly control a resource if you cannot destroy it. Hence the modern streaming landscape
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DarklyDreaming posted:One does not truly control a resource if you cannot destroy it. Hence the modern streaming landscape
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Anyone else get that delightfully unhinged Facebook-esque campaign email from the "Independent" candidates? It was ~20 paragraphs of raging against Big Pharma's mystery juice and the other 19 were practically gibberish word salad. My favorite part was the link to an Adam Corolla podcast at the top of the email, like that was their introduction. And why are they sending this email today, aren't ballots due ASAP? It seems odd to dump 39 paragraphs in an email, one of those paragraphs bitching about how much it costs to access the SAG contact list, on practically the day ballots are due to be counted. Did they send one of these out a few weeks ago when folks were actually voting and I missed it? I can only imagine folks like that in a negotiation with the studios. Iger would just give them a mic, tell them to share their views, and nod and agree and get them to agree to some poo poo deal because they felt they were heard.
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I've been saying this exact thing for five years. "At some point some bean counter will decide to bundle all this poo poo together and we'll just have cable again." I wish I could be happy about being right about a thing, but... fehhhh.
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LividLiquid posted:I've been saying this exact thing for five years. "At some point some bean counter will decide to bundle all this poo poo together and we'll just have cable again." I made a thread about the future of pay TV, but nobody posted in it. 
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LividLiquid posted:I've been saying this exact thing for five years. "At some point some bean counter will decide to bundle all this poo poo together and we'll just have cable again." I feel like that was always the plan.
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I don’t think there’s any way around it. The streaming model only seems to work financially when it’s supplementary to broadcast.
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LividLiquid posted:I've been saying this exact thing for five years. "At some point some bean counter will decide to bundle all this poo poo together and we'll just have cable again." This happened ages ago when they fractured into different niche streaming services. Multiple subscriptions to manage each service was picking and choosing channels, only for streaming
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LividLiquid posted:I've been saying this exact thing for five years. "At some point some bean counter will decide to bundle all this poo poo together and we'll just have cable again." it's worse actually because we've also combined it with the return of the studio system
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Time is a flat circle https://www.vox.com/culture/2019/3/15/18225269/streaming-future-cable-netflix-hulu-disney
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Crackbone posted:I don’t think there’s any way around it. The streaming model only seems to work financially when it’s supplementary to broadcast. ultimately, I am shocked the cable system has survived as basically an add on to internet service. How many cable stations are just dumping grounds for their parent company's old shows? How much can the audience split itself? Something will have to collapse at some point.
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