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The real thing JJK has over CSM is ever getting more episodes.
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JJK is absolutely the more generic one yeah. To me it's just that the shared setup lets you contrast them quickly as JJK starts tipping its hand as being a series that really cares about establishing a robust power system and more battle focus, even setting up the rival school tournament-thing in those early volumes. Given JJK's success and the fact that they were willing (or had to) to proceed with the S2 staff shakeup, it does make me a bit more optimistic about having some new blood do the same for CSM.
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Sep 4, 2023 23:42
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It's funny to me how the first thing people do when they have secret magic powers is always set up an underground tournament to find out who is the strongest.
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Sep 4, 2023 23:55
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Clarste posted:It's funny to me how the first thing people do when they have secret magic powers is always set up an underground tournament to find out who is the strongest. thats what i would do in real life
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Sep 5, 2023 00:01
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Clarste posted:It's funny to me how the first thing people do when they have secret magic powers is always set up an underground tournament to find out who is the strongest. Look, mang, the dark tournament was awesome, gotta at least try to replicate it's greatness.
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Sep 5, 2023 00:02
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Endorph posted:thats what i would do in real life
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Sep 5, 2023 00:14
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Clarste posted:It's funny to me how the first thing people do when they have secret magic powers is always set up an underground tournament to find out who is the strongest. Baki but everyone has secret magic powers
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Sep 5, 2023 00:23
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I'm gonna be honest, I see JJK all the time, but I could not even begin to tell you what it's actually about.
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Sep 5, 2023 00:25
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It would be easier to name a big modern Shonen that doesn’t star a guy possessed by a demon who gets forcibly conscripted into a pseudo secret-society/government dept that ranks its members by power level and divides everyone in said organization into “teams”.
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Sep 5, 2023 00:27
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Waffleman_ posted:I'm gonna be honest, I see JJK all the time, but I could not even begin to tell you what it's actually about. It's hunter x hunter meets naruto. That's extremely reductive, but it covers most of the bases for what to expect from it narratively and thematically.
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Sep 5, 2023 00:28
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the best part of jujutsu kaisen is the joke where the old guy obsessed with katanas finds a kimetsu no yaiba toy while trying to hunt down a legendary sword
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Sep 5, 2023 00:44
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Waffleman_ posted:I'm gonna be honest, I see JJK all the time, but I could not even begin to tell you what it's actually about. i feel this way with undead unluck. every new chapter appears to be from a different manga
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Sep 5, 2023 01:23
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Clarste posted:It's funny to me how the first thing people do when they have secret magic powers is always set up an underground tournament to find out who is the strongest. Yeah tournament arcs own.
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Sep 5, 2023 01:58
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Waffleman_ posted:I'm gonna be honest, I see JJK all the time, but I could not even begin to tell you what it's actually about. It's about seeing people punch each other in really cool and flashy ways, you seem to have absorbed the important part
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Sep 5, 2023 02:14
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tournament and exam arcs are the easiest to write.
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Sep 5, 2023 02:27
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Electric Phantasm posted:Baki but everyone has secret magic powers So Baki.
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Sep 5, 2023 02:42
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Oxxidation posted:i feel this way with undead unluck. every new chapter appears to be from a different manga Unfortunately anime watchers are going to see a lot of "well it'll get really good if they make a season 4"
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Sep 5, 2023 03:06
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GateOfD posted:tournament and exam arcs are the easiest to write. I wrote up a categorization scheme for shonen battle manga arcs. Some of them overlap somewhat. 1. Attack and counterattack (bad guys beat up good guys, good guys somehow get time to train or otherwise prepare for a bit, good guys beat up bad guys). 2. Rescue (can be subdivided into the base-storming type and the kind where the heroes try to defeat the abductors before they reach their base). 3. Deicide (lots of heroes vs. one very powerful villain). 4. Villain of the week (i.e., individual fights as separate short arcs). 5. Reverse deicide (one very powerful hero vs. lots of villains; seen mainly in older manga). 6. War (an all-out clash between two large factions). 7. Tournament. 8. Exam. 9. High-stakes game (a conflict with structured rules that isn't a straightforward tournament, but isn't a "test" as such). 10. Three-sided conflict (inevitably ending with two of the groups teaming up against the third). In general, the worst kinds of arcs are deicide arcs and war arcs. The problem with war arcs is mostly a matter of pacing and cast management. The problem with deicide arcs is that the author generally wants the main character to be largely responsible for defeating the villain rather than everyone just gradually wearing him down, so it tends to end up as the villain defeating everyone except the main character, followed by the main character getting a deus ex machina powerup. Tournament and exam arcs tend to be the best. They allow for good guys fighting other good guys and for characters losing fights or otherwise failing at things without any assumed dire consequences, and they have clear structures that avoid the "wait, how many of these guys are still standing again, and what were they each doing lately?" problems of war arcs. Attack-and-counterattack is basically the default arc structure (or at least used to be; it seems to be used less now), and thus there are plenty of both good and bad examples. Rescue arcs tend to have a strong sense of emotional motivation, but also tend towards contrivances to set up one-on-one fights.
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Silver2195 posted:In general, the worst kinds of arcs are deicide arcs and war arcs
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Sindai posted:This is the great thing about what Undead Unluck eventually became. Maybe if they're listening to the wrong manga readers? I get that people dislike Andy's early characterization and are also incredibly high on the current manga stuff, but it's not like the series survived all these years on nothing. There's plenty of early material that is good on its own, and the anime lucked into the Fire Force S1 team. Aside from that production connection I think the series has been pretty free from excessive hype, which hopefully just lets it be a great-looking adaptation of a solid series.
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Endorph posted:hxh combined these and it was the best shonen arc ever made Heh. Well, Hunter x Hunter tends to break a lot of rules. Togashi wisely 1) didn't get Leorio, Kurapica, Hisoka, or the Hunter Exam examiners other than Netero involved in the Chimera Ant conflict and 2) didn't have Gon defeat or even fight Meruem.
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Sep 5, 2023 03:15
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I wish they'd make another season of Dorohedoro
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The other perk about tournaments is that it can alleviate the problem in long-running battle shonen where the weaker power-crept characters literally cannot engage in any way other than cheerleading (which is a real problem in #3), because at least in theory everyone has some amount of participation. That's why everyone likes the Dragonball tournaments and why it's such blueballs that Z teases, like, three of them.
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Mons Hubris posted:I wish they'd make another season of Dorohedoro
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Mons Hubris posted:I wish they'd make another season of Dorohedoro
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Same. Or just make more OVA spinoffs about that little Gyoza Fairy. He was cute.
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i'm so mad they never got to curse like how can you do a dorohedoro anime and not show curse
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the dorohedoro anime staff have been on AoT ever since, if that show ever ends they can make more but its not looking good
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oh ok well if they can't make it because they're busy making another favorite anime of mine i guess i have no choice but to accept that decision when it's over in 1-2 years i hope they decide to go back to dorohedoro (i see no compelling business reason for them to do so sadly)
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Welcome to Ice Adolescence.
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idk about JJK and CSM but i read a review of JJK0 on letterboxd that started a slapfight between several commenters about which of JJK or Demon Slayer was the mid one and which was good
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I'd be happy just being able to even buy Dorohedoro.
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symbolic posted:if you want to ignore that our protag very early on in an impossible situation in a supernatural world subsequently becomes host to a supernatural power that leads him into a binding quest to eliminate an ultimate evil to avoid being killed for now being host to an evil power, leading to him being teamed up to help defeat a variety of other supernatural beings all while he's technically immortal. Also his team is a comparatively straight-laced black-haired summoner guy and a violent lady. Tales of Woe posted:the dorohedoro anime staff have been on AoT ever since, if that show ever ends they can make more but its not looking good You mean if it ever stops ending?
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mycot posted:The other perk about tournaments is that it can alleviate the problem in long-running battle shonen where the weaker power-crept characters literally cannot engage in any way other than cheerleading (which is a real problem in #3), because at least in theory everyone has some amount of participation. That's why everyone likes the Dragonball tournaments and why it's such blueballs that Z teases, like, three of them. Yeah! True fans demand more Miwa! The 7th Guest posted:idk about JJK and CSM but i read a review of JJK0 on letterboxd that started a slapfight between several commenters about which of JJK or Demon Slayer was the mid one and which was good One of them's mid? Por que no los dos?
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Brutal Garcon posted:Also his team is a comparatively straight-laced black-haired summoner guy and a violent lady. I wonder how often this dynamic appears? Does it predate Naruto? JJK even has someone who looks a lot like Kakashi as their mentor.
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Mons Hubris posted:I wish they'd make another season of Dorohedoro
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Mons Hubris posted:I wish they'd make another season of Dorohedoro
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Tales of Woe posted:the dorohedoro anime staff have been on AoT ever since, if that show ever ends they can make more but its not looking good Well the final final episode is supposed to come out sometime next season, so there's a light at the end of the tunnel.
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Mons Hubris posted:I wish they'd make another season of Dorohedoro
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https://twitter.com/MangaMoguraRE/status/1698880711506215238?t=it6t0xZZaNXkCs4CFXxK1Q&s=19 2024 season 2 nice. I enjoyed thr first one well enough.
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