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Zulily Zoetrope posted:I'm assuming Marshall is Japanese in the non-localized version, and I feel like that's pretty charming. Just a literal Rawhide Kobayashi working the beat in downtown Tokyo or wherever it's set. Indeed, in the Japanese version, he's Kyosuke Zaimon. I've been told that, in lieu of his cowboy jargon in the English verison, he spoke a lot of gratuitous English in the Japanese. As for why he's a cowboy... there's actually a very good reason, but I can't go into it until OP gets to a much later game.
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I love that joke where Gumshoe's like "...Goodman? Nah, my mistake." and it takes Ema pointing out to him that it's the murder victim for him to recall. I don't recall if the characters question the Blue Badger's name at some point (or maybe when he came up in previous episodes?), since he resembles a little jester more than an animal.
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The Blue Badger is probably less of an oddity in the Japanese version when you consider that they have a mascot for just about every company out there.
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ApplesandOranges posted:The Blue Badger is probably less of an oddity in the Japanese version when you consider that they have a mascot for just about every company out there.
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davidspackage posted:I don't recall if the characters question the Blue Badger's name at some point (or maybe when he came up in previous episodes?), since he resembles a little jester more than an animal. Take another look at the mascot's head. He's supposed to resemble a policeman's badge. Thus, the Blue "Badge"-er. Zerbin7 fucked around with this message at 16:21 on Sep 5, 2023 |
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Zerbin7 posted:Take another look at the mascot's head. He's supposed to resemble a policeman's badge. Thus, the Blue "Badge-er". Oh my gosh
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Zerbin7 posted:Take another look at the mascot's head. He's supposed to resemble a policeman's badge. Thus, the Blue "Badge"-er.  Wow.
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Zerbin7 posted:Take another look at the mascot's head. He's supposed to resemble a policeman's badge. Thus, the Blue "Badge"-er. holy poo poo
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Thanks for inflicting this knowledge on us.
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Zerbin7 posted:Take another look at the mascot's head. He's supposed to resemble a policeman's badge. Thus, the Blue "Badge"-er. 
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Zerbin7 posted:Take another look at the mascot's head. He's supposed to resemble a policeman's badge. Thus, the Blue "Badge"-er. 
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TheDavies posted:I suspect that Officer Marshall sounds a lot like this guy Going back a bit:  Sure. Thanks for that... deniable fanfic fodder?
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I always took that as Lana making up a bad excuse for why her girlfriend kept coming over
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Blueberry Pancakes posted:What did Meekins do to earn such hatred? The guy just came to deliver a report and everyone hates him/calls him stupid? In this particular instance, it's probably just a case of Edgeworth having a particularly bad day, and Meekins bringing an apparently unrelated report just being the straw that broke the camel's back there. We'll find out later that [SPOILERS REMOVED] (USER WAS PUT ON PROBATION FOR THIS POST) Somebody fucked around with this message at 10:50 on Sep 6, 2023 |
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The man bust into Edgeworth's office and started hollering at him through a megaphone. Edgeworth was downright civil to him.
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comicfan92 posted:We'll find out later that Don't do this.
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So one other thing is that whenever you see Meekins you have to listen to the sound of the loving megaphone screech. Constantly. Over and over. Every time the megaphone sprite is on the screen (and it's on there often).
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Meekins in my mind is unbreakably linked to one guy in an ADTRW chat thread who thought that it was possible to get pregnant from anal sex thanks to a goon making an AA courtroom gif of the whole conversation and Meekins played the part of the questioning goon.
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Thanks, I hate it.
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ApplesandOranges posted:The Blue Badger is probably less of an oddity in the Japanese version when you consider that they have a mascot for just about every company out there. Oh, it's way better than that.  Behold Peopo-kun, the mascot of the Tokyo Metropolitan Police Department. Zerbin7 posted:Take another look at the mascot's head. He's supposed to resemble a policeman's badge. Thus, the Blue "Badge"-er. Just for reference, in the Japanese version, his name is Taiho (Arrest).
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Zerbin7 posted:Take another look at the mascot's head. He's supposed to resemble a policeman's badge. Thus, the Blue "Badge"-er. Thank you for the sanity damage.
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Zerbin7 posted:Take another look at the mascot's head. He's supposed to resemble a policeman's badge. Thus, the Blue "Badge"-er. Oh.... oh my god. Mave I had my "That's the sky!?" moment? I think I have.
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Cyouni posted:So one other thing is that whenever you see Meekins you have to listen to the sound of the loving megaphone screech. Constantly. Over and over. Every time the megaphone sprite is on the screen (and it's on there often). Fortunately that sound effect does not appear to be in this game, at least. Something to look forward to?
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I am genuinely surprised that this many people didn't get the Blue Badger thing. Happy to enlighten you all, I guess.
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DKII posted:Fortunately that sound effect does not appear to be in this game, at least. Something to look forward to? Yeah, you just haven't seen it yet. Meekins is "kind" enough to not do it the very first time you see him, but as you can probably guess just looking at him, he has a sprite where he's shouting into the megaphone.
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Zerbin7 posted:I am genuinely surprised that this many people didn't get the Blue Badger thing. Happy to enlighten you all, I guess. Me too. Quite interesting to see so many folks get their minds blown a bit.
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Part 122: Episode 5, Day 1, Investigation: Jake Marshall Music: Silence   (Looks like the investigation is still going...) I have to be getting back to the shop...Sound: Realization  Sound: Realization I'll see you in my dreams tonight, then, baby.I think those are two different speakers. Though at first I thought it might be a single person talking to someone else over the phone. The second two lines are from a male speaker, judging by the different "blip" sound used.   Ah, h-hello.Sound: Light Bulb  Why the surprised look? Didn't I mention... (What happened to the security guard!?)Sound: Whack  I don't think that Marshall here was the unknown male speaker. Plus, he's not in Criminal Affairs (he's a patrolman, not a detective). But then who was Angel speaking to?  You're lookin' like a dogie that's lost its herd! (Jake Marshall...) (Strange guy to put in charge of a crime scene.)Sound: Realization Music: Jake Marshall ~ The Detective from the Wild West  Jake Marshall - still aggressively shaving his rapidly-growing stubble with a sharp knife.  We do finally unlock his profile at least. So much about this whole investigation doesn't add up still.  Looks like this half of the crime scene has something new.  Never mind, Marshall is just playing obstructionist again. Huh...Sound: Realization  The blood law of the gunman! (I think one body per murder case is enough, thanks.) Okay, looking around is pointless, so let's talk instead.  There's something I wanted to ask you!  And me? I watch over them as they sleep... dreaming of the desert's harsh judgment. ... He's asleep.Sound: Realization  There's our reminder to show him Gumshoe's letter of introduction. I guess he won't talk to us until we do that. The other topic produces the same result.  We have other things to present first, however. Officer Marshall? Could you take a look at this? Whoa, pardner! You ready to become food for the vultures, compadre?Sound: Realization Are you ready, Mr. Wright?Sound: Light Bulb (Somehow I don't think he's going to help us.) Looks like we're getting nowhere until we show him this thing. Would you mind reading this for me?Music: Silence  Charming guy. Who's sending him fan letters, anyway? It's a letter of introduction from Detective Gumshoe. May we investigate? Hmm... He holding a birthday party or something?Sound: Realization Huh? Sound: Light Bulb Oh, Gumshoe. Ah... I think he just miswrote it. (Wait, why am I getting all defensive here!?)Sound: Stab  Now I'm just somewhat offended on Gumshoe's behalf. Guess I'd better let you in, then. Th-thank you, Officer Marshall! (Oh, that's right... He's a "patrolman," not a "detective"...) (Which reminds me...) Hey, wait a sec!Sound: Light Bulb  Well, folks.Music: Jake Marshall ~ The Detective from the Wild West The clues are calling! Welcome to our gold strike. Be like the settler! Strike out for lands unknown! So many words just thrown in to sound more cowboy.  Ema I'm not sure if this guy is the one to be taking notes from.  Well, Mr. Wright, what do you say!?Sound: Light Bulb (I say I won't be needing this anymore...) Sound: Select Jingle  Sure enough, the letter is gone. Maybe Marshall will be more talkative now. I see your badge. Looks pretty... round. A beam of light, illuminating evildoers who come in the dark of night! (Hey, that's a sheriff's badge!)Speaking of badges...  Apparently this guy's head is supposed to represent a police badge. So he's the Blue "Badge"-er. Credit to user Zerbin7 for pointing that one out.  Anyway, more evidence! What's that? Some sort of police passport? This is Detective Goodman's ID card. Strangely enough... We found it a good distance away from the crime scene.Sound: Realization  Texas... What difference does a few yards make, compadre? There's no better way to study than to hang out with the pros!...Ema I'm pretty sure you could learn more from Gumshoe.  Ah, a toy shield! Suits the boy well.  Officer Marshall, don't you have anything good to say about Mr. Edgeworth? You don't like him, right? We get the point. Ah, a former detective. Did Edgeworth get him busted back to patrolman?  Hmm... Let me guess... Did it have a "K" for "King of Detectives" on it? Hey, they could use the same shield over and over. Judging by Edgeworth's car, all the budget is going to prosecutor salaries. You know it! They've gotten cheaper with every passing year, I tell you. Alright, compadre! Count to three! Huh?Sound: Light Bulb   That's what we do in Texas. Remind me never to visit Texas.Sound: Realization Is Marshall pretending to be from Texas? Dude, Gumshoe already ratted you out as being from West LA. Also, that was actually Marshall's "don't care" reaction. He'll give it for the knife and the Blue Badger even before showing him Gumshoe's letter.  This Parking Stub is the last piece of evidence he'll talk about with us. 5:12 PM... A... trot? So it seems the Chief Prosecutor was lying in wait! (So what you mean is...) (The killer intended to use Edgeworth's car all along!)Sound: Realization  Let's try talking to him again. Officer Marshall? Could you tell us more about the victim? ... Sound: Realization Um... could you be a little more specific?Sound: Whack  Well, well, aren't you a feisty dogie there now. Detective Goodman was stabbed here at 5:15... (I think he means the witness, Ms. Angel Starr.) This here's the autopsy report. The time window on that autopsy report is large enough to drive Edgeworth's car through it. I'm guessing that Goodman was killed somewhere else, then stuffed into Edgeworth's trunk and transported here later. Was my sister involved with the victim in any way? Chief Prosecutor Skye and Detective Goodman...Music: Silence had nothing in common at all.Sound: Realization Nothing in common...? (So... there's no motive!)Music: Jake Marshall ~ The Detective from the Wild West Goodman wasn't a particularly gifted detective. But, my sister called the victim here on the day of the murder, right? Here... to this parking lot?And it was evidence transferal day. So an old case could have still come up. In fact, we know it did.  Marshall's ability to talk and drink at the same time is impressive. I wonder if he got busted to patrolman for his drinking problem.  Um, I don't mean any offense, but... Officer Marshall, you're a patrolman, right? Not a detective. Huh?Sound: Light Bulb  Oh, really? (Now he tells me!) They either specifically wanted Marshall on it, or they couldn't trust any other detective on it... Nothing gets by you, does it, Bambina? So, why are you in charge? Yeah calling bullshit on that one. That's odd, though.Sound: Realization  He's nothing but a sad ol' cowdog, that can't find his tail. Maybe it's because he runs with that Edgeworth, eh? Edgeworth...? Just, he don't realize it yet. (Detective Gumshoe, kicked out of the investigation!?)Sound: Light Bulb A lot of conspiracy smoke here but no fire yet. And it all comes back to Edgeworth again, and some incident from two years ago. An incident that perhaps also resulted in Marshall here losing his detective job... maybe because of Edgeworth? Does he want revenge?  We actually unlocked the other half of the crime scene when presenting Gumshoe's letter to Marshall, I only just now realized it. "A Block"... This area is reserved for prosecutors. Defense attorneys are relegated to "B Block." I'll go over to B Block to buy my hamburgers from you, Mr. Wright. I'm not planning on giving up my job that soon... Speaking of "B Block"... "B Block" is through there. That's where visitors park. Hey, you're right. I like the cute design on the door. (I can see... a cartoon cow munching down on a juicy looking steak.) ... Sound: Realization Just don't think too deeply about it and you'll be fine.Cannibal cow!!  Let's get to the real evidence. This rope... is it...? Yep. They laid it in the outline of the victim's body. ... Sound: Light Bulb ... (You have got to be the only person I know that would come to that conclusion.)Found in the trunk, not necessarily died there. Did Lana just find him there, and decide to take the fall for Edgeworth for some reason? Why would she have been looking in Edgeworth's trunk?  Speaking of looking in the trunk... What's this? Looks like a note of some sort.Sound: Realization  Sound: Light Bulb  You're right. Let's see... "6-7S 12/2"...Sound: Realization I wasn't sure if that was supposed to be an "S" or a "5", really.  Part of the evidence he was transferring? Something he was going to ask Lana about? ...Wait a minute.  If I flip the note upside-down, that date is now the day of the murder (yesterday). So was Goodman meeting with Lana to talk about SL-9, then? (If it weren't for the name of one of the music tracks, "SL-9" wouldn't mean anything to me, either. But now I'm guessing it's the name of whatever incident two years ago triggered this whole mess.) (Maybe it fell out of his pocket when he was killed.) How am I supposed to know?Sound: Realization  Rude! (I'm sure Edgeworth wouldn't know what this means either.) Sound: Select Jingle We have a ton of evidence already and no way to tie any of it together.  This appears to be the car where the body was found. (It looks like the lock on the trunk is busted.)   The body was found in the trunk of my subordinate's car.  Yeah. Prosecutors get the big bucks. I saved the best for last, tucked away in the corner here. This looks like a cell phone.  I can't think of anyone else it could belong to... Sound: Stab Of course! (Right! Let's check it out.) Music: Logic and Trick Ema takes over the screen again, dragging us into the court record and over to the cell phone that hasn't even been officially entered into the court record yet.  The one time it would have been useful to have us to examine something for ourselves, the game forces us into it without any choice. Man, what a boring strap! What's wrong with it? Everyone has different tastes, you know. These are hard to come by, you know. (I see the series is as popular as ever with the kids...)Well, that was a bust. There must be something more here.  Nothing on the back...  Nothing on the bottom...  Aha! An obvious button on the side!  A good old-fashioned flip phone. Hmm. This phone's still on the redial screen.Sound: Realization Redial...? Um, Mr. Wright? You just press the blue button to display the last number you called. Sorry to disappoint you, but even I know about things like "redial." Huh? Oh, I'm sorry!Sound: Light Bulb  This conversation is the most that Ema's ever acted like the teenager she is. (Whatever... Let's check this phone out.) Ema pointed it out for us, but the only thing of interest here is the Big Blue Button. (Now, to see who the owner of this phone called last...)quote:I really can't think of a reason not to check it out, but here goes: Music: Silence   *beep*Sound: Bip 2 Music: The Steel Samurai (Ringtone) I extracted this tune myself because it's pretty awesome and I couldn't find it anywhere else in the right format. ... Sound: Light Bulb  Sound: Light Bulb *beep*Sound: Bip 2 Music: Silence Ah! Oh, s-sorry. I see you, pardner! Sound: Realization Uh, well, yeah...  Sound: Realization Geez Ema you didn't recognize your sister's phone? Music: Suspense What? It's my sister's!?Sound: Light Bulb  Look... the last call was made right when the murder occurred! Looks like she was fixing to call someone. Who did she call?Sound: Light Bulb No idea. Sorry, pardner.Sound: Realization Now, I got a question for you, pardner. Oh? That? Oh...Music: Silence I'm sorry, that was my phone.Sound: Realization  Sound: Stab 2 Yeah, uh, it's kind of strange, but... Someone called me right as we picked up the other phone, a wrong number... ... Sound: Gunshot 4 Phoenix even I can tell you're lying here. What are you covering up? (Uh oh, I've incited the wrath of the Lone Star patrolman...) Sound: Select Jingle Music: Jake Marshall ~ The Detective from the Wild West  To be honest, I thought the day was going to end there.  While thinking about what to do next, I decided to look at the trunk again.  It must have fallen out of Detective Goodman's pocket. And? And? what does it mean? Mr. Wright! I have no idea.Sound: Realization  I mostly just wanted to see that line again. (I'm sure Edgeworth would be just as confused...) That scene did remind me I never examined our new evidence.  The autopsy report just gives us some more detail. Just the one stab wound, but could have happened at practically any time. Suddenly the 30 minute taxi ride between the Prosecutor's Office and the Police Department seems relevant. The murder could have happened while Edgeworth was getting that award. In fact, maybe he was given that award to ensure he'd be there that day?  Goodman's note also just gives us a close-up instead of letting us turn it over or something that might be useful.  The cell phone we already looked at, but what happens if we press this button again? (There's no need to push this again.) Never mind. It's nothing. I had kind of forgotten that Marshall was still around. He doesn't have anything to say about the autopsy report or the note, so let's try the cell phone. My sister's cell phone. Maybe she was canceling her date for the night? ... (Why did Lana make that call...?) I think we unlocked this new topic by picking up the cell phone. (I went back and checked; you have to pick up the cell phone and go through the first topic to unlock this one.)  That's correct, but... There's a goldmine of evidence against her... ...! I'm afraid your sister's fate is decided, Bambina. Many condolences. Officer Marshall!Sound: Realization Yeah, Bambina?Music: Silence H-how can you say that! (Is there something between this cop and her sister that I don't know about?)Sound: Realization The Wright Offices slogan should be "I'd only need one day to get my clients declared 'Not Guilty' if everyone would actually tell me everything up front!" ...!Sound: Light Bulb I apologize, Bambina. Something must have gotten to me. (Dry wind or ill will, someone's up to something here... but who?) Completing the third topic unlocks the fourth.  Again with a reference to two years ago... Forged evidence and arranging testimonies, you mean? He was unbeatable because he did whatever it took to win. Sound: Realization So you have heard of us! Music: Silence But rumors are just... rumors, aren't they? If you follow the rumors about Edgeworth to their source, you find one person... But... they're off limits. Untouchable, you might say. One person? Who? Sound: Realization Like, Lana was the one spreading the rumors? Was she afraid Edgeworth was out to get her job? What!? My sister...?Sound: Light Bulb Music: Recollection ~ The SL-9 Incident Edgeworth couldn't rustle all those cattle by himself. What, you're saying Edgeworth was making deals to win trials?Sound: Whack "Where there's gunshots, there's bound to be bullets." That's what the old-timers say. (Is that why Detective Gumshoe was taken off the case...?) (Did they target him because he was closest to Edgeworth?)Exhausting all of Marshall's topics and finding Goodman's note triggers a new scene... Music: Silence  I guess we've got some clues... We have an autopsy report, a note from the victim, and a cell phone... Well, the only thing still bothering me is that Lana is confessing to the crime. She says she did it! No problem!Sound: Light Bulb  Oh by the way, Ema? Yes? I know that song your phone plays when it rings... What...?Sound: Realization Oh, of course it was Ema's phone that was ringing. Duh. Music: The Steel Samurai (Ringtone)  *beep*Sound: Bip 2 It's the Steel Samurai theme song, isn't it? That popular TV show... for kids? ...!Sound: Light Bulb The phone that rang earlier wasn't mine... Sound: Realization At 5:18, just after the murder took place...Music: Suspense Your sister called you, didn't she, Ema? I... I'm sorry! Can you tell me what you talked about? I see... Sound: Select Jingle ...Well that's probably not good. What did she really say, Ema?  (I've got a bad feeling about this...) So just like every other episode then.  In case you're wondering, I did check the other locations before completing this day. Edgeworth is no longer in his office after we've talked to Gumshoe, the detention center remains empty, and neither Gumshoe nor Ema care about any of our new evidence. Music: Jingle - It Can't End Here  So we're off to trial, with our clients once again withholding information from us or outright lying to us. Just another normal case for us!
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This game would be real short if all your defendants just told you everything immediately.
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Will Powers never held out on you! He was actually just snoozin and had no connection to the crime other than being the nearest available scapegoat.
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Eh. He could have mentioned the director and producer being there, his ankle injury, etc. But in his case it's more from him being a doofus than whatever is going on in the prosecutor's offices. That was a better structured narrative in that episode, though, in terms of extending the mystery without making it feel somewhat contrived.
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I like Phoenix's quick thinking with Ema's cell phone going off. That poor boy rarely gets the credit he's due! I was also reminded that the spelling of "dogie" bugged me when I was playing this bit; I figured it was a kind of phonetic spelling of "doggy", as in the phrase "git along, lil' doggy". So I just looked it up and found that a "dogie" is actually a motherless calf, and of course that's what's meant in the classic phrase as well. Live and learn (English isn't my first language). The translation job on this game is really fantastic. The text never feels awkward or stilted to me.
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DKII posted:Eh. He could have mentioned the director and producer being there, his ankle injury, etc. But in his case it's more from him being a doofus than whatever is going on in the prosecutor's offices. That was a better structured narrative in that episode, though, in terms of extending the mystery without making it feel somewhat contrived. I blame the fact that this game has to make every character so colorful for its contrived plots sometimes. There’s no shame in it, yeah, I do it myself sometimes, but even I have limits for my suspension of disbelief. Phoenix’s suspension must be epic. And Emma’s probably exceeds it. As does Maya’s.  A lot of attorneys have issues with clients lying to them. John Grisham and Michael Connelly have written about it exceptionally and frequently. For detective / agents with a similar problem, check out Harlan Coben’s Myron Bolitar series. Nice callback with the ringtone.
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I wonder which happens more in real life: lawyers with clients who lie or doctors with patients who lie.
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Commander Keene posted:I wonder which happens more in real life: lawyers with clients who lie or doctors with patients who lie. I am told there are a large number of patients who come into emergency rooms with stories of slipping or falling, while nude, on some dubious item now lodged in their rectum. It never fools anyone. Though I'm told most doctors/nurses are kind enough not to laugh at them within earshot.
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davidspackage posted:I like Phoenix's quick thinking with Ema's cell phone going off. That poor boy rarely gets the credit he's due! Did you also learn that their misfortune is none of your own?
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Quackles posted:I am told there are a large number of patients who come into emergency rooms with stories of slipping or falling, while nude, on some dubious item now lodged in their rectum. It's far more common that any inebriated patient will, without fault, have only had 2 beers. Enough that they don't feel dishonest about that they were drinking while hiding the shame behind a more reasonable amount.
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