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NeonPunk posted:Wait, does this mean that salmonella isn't going to be the biggest concern for any undercooked chicken anymore? It still will be, after all, this is just the flu
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Sep 7, 2023 18:29
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Gunshow Poophole posted:concerning I'm sure its mild. Have you considered smiling? You can't be anxious and smile at the same time! Its physiological!
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Sep 7, 2023 18:41
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newish pre print on BA.2.86 still highly transmissible, seems less infectious, but: https://twitter.com/SystemsVirology/status/1699707550474936500 https://twitter.com/SystemsVirology/status/1699707555164062184
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Sep 7, 2023 19:00
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in summary: this is the one you want to get
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Sep 7, 2023 19:01
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Iverron posted:newish pre print on BA.2.86 
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Sep 7, 2023 19:09
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Iverron posted:newish pre print on BA.2.86 Sleeping on the money quote there: "Altogether, it is suggested that BA.2.86 is one of the most highly immune evasive variants ever and should have the potential to be considered as a variant of interest."
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Sep 7, 2023 19:15
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SardonicTyrant posted:It's remarkable how quickly America was able to mobilize to support the virus. This is a Chinese bioweapon! I demand we immediately surrender to the bioweapon!
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Sep 7, 2023 19:18
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I mean...this scans, right? Maybe it's a lot less infectious, but it's so immune-evasive that people have minimal protection against infection, whether they're vaccinated or have ~*hybrid immunity*~ etc. If it (relatively) sucked at infecting people AND could be stopped by existing antibodies, I don't know how it would've even gotten off the ground.
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Sep 7, 2023 19:28
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But that means that whole lot of people are either lying or wrong about the effectiveness of the XBB booster shots. That wouldn't happen would it?
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Sep 7, 2023 19:30
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it’s definitely lying I don’t think they are that incompetent
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Sep 7, 2023 19:31
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Tzen posted:it's incredible how bad his response has been, incredible, entirely predictable, and cruel science status: followed
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Sep 7, 2023 19:40
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Oracle posted:Sleeping on the money quote there: Hmm, but I thought I just read that there is no evidence that any of the variants in circulation cause more severe disease or evade immunity adroitly enough to render vaccines ineffective.
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Sep 7, 2023 19:44
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adroitly, pestilence
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Sep 7, 2023 19:46
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Pingui posted:lmao at this headline: “Remember, you can’t be anxious and smile at the same time. That’s a physiological thing,” Webber said. What the flying gently caress is this poo poo?
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Sep 7, 2023 19:55
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Zantie posted:“Remember, you can’t be anxious and smile at the same time. That’s a physiological thing,” Webber said. Looking forward to seeing everyone's smiles again
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Sep 7, 2023 20:10
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oh hey new thread glad everything is still mild and over ive had the weirdest sinus infection of my life the past few days that feels nothing like what ive had before with colds and whatnot because i don't feel sick because it doesnt seem to be related to any kind of sickness, i am pretty sure i just got turbofucked with a bunch of pollen due to circumstances. never actively avoided airborne diseases for years at a time before, so its exciting learning about other kinds of maladies that can hit you. its just like one symptom of what is usually a whole bunch (headache, sinus pain) and it reminds me that i hate it and its much more straightforward than a head cold or whatever, and that i really don't miss being sick with some respiratory nonsense. why did we ever put up with it
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Sep 7, 2023 20:11
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Real Mean Queen posted:As far as I can tell that's exactly what it is. Pausing to feel bad for a second before doing the bad thing anyway is more than somebody else did, and that means you're not the worst person in the world. Liberalism is about incremental improvement, so you can do all the same things as the worst person in the world as long as you feel weird about it for a second, because that's better than what somebody else did. Yeah, libs have made it very clear they don't actually want leadership that doesn't do the bad things, they just want a mature adult who does the bad thing after consideration and feels torn by it or who puts on the right veneer. Look at all of the Bush policies Obama just carried over, and then after that the Trump carryovers to Biden. They don't even limit it to stuff like covid or immigration where you can hem and haw and pretend the world is different or "gosh we wanted to do something else, but the senate janitor refuses to replace the batteries on the vote buttons" There's no reason Cuba and Iran should be continuations of Trump, hell if dem voters had object permanence they'd remember these used to be what they pointed to as proof red team was worse than blue. Coolness Averted has issued a correction as of 20:14 on Sep 7, 2023 |
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Sep 7, 2023 20:12
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I'm eating lunch outside on a really nice day and suddenly I get a whiff of perfume and look up to see someone walking past like 30-40ft away. There's barely any breeze and the scent is gone like two seconds later. I hate being on high alert. It's probably fine so I guess I'll smile harder to make this feeling go away  At least this semester hasn't had my lunch regularly ambushed by lost students asking where such-and-such building is.
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Sep 7, 2023 20:13
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hot witch divorcee posted:oh hey new thread I've got something similar with an ear infection that has sucked for weeks now. Probably came from allergies, as I never tested positive for covid, but it's a terrible feeling. I love how I haven't gotten sick with any diseases for the past three and a half years, I'd rather wear a mask every day than have to deal with getting sick every six months.
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Sep 7, 2023 20:20
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Chamale posted:I've got something similar with an ear infection that has sucked for weeks now. Probably came from allergies, as I never tested positive for covid, but it's a terrible feeling. I love how I haven't gotten sick with any diseases for the past three and a half years, I'd rather wear a mask every day than have to deal with getting sick every six months. it really is just a better things arent possible thing that is beaten into everyone, like ive gotten a few more snide comments about my respie recently that i hadn't been getting for some time before that and its like i dont care dude life is better without entirely avoidable respiratory illness bullshit
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Sep 7, 2023 20:28
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PoundSand posted:Stuff like this feels so crazy cause from a layman perspective the entire point of stuff like masking is to prevent (well reduce) the spread. It's not like a medicine you take to get better faster after getting sick you gotta be doing it before. I guess it shouldn't surprise me p much every corporate safety policy is less designed around actual safety and more a liability mitigation measure and the US is basically a giant corporation at this point but it just looks so silly reading dumb poo poo like this. not anymore lmao
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Sep 7, 2023 20:30
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I've gotten sick a few times in the past few months (including right now) since we have our toddler doing things with other kids. So far Not Covid, but that's just a matter of time, since I'm clearly getting stuff that is less infectious. It owns that no matter how many precautions I take, I'm gonna continually get got through my kid.
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Sep 7, 2023 20:32
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Zugzwang posted:I've gotten sick a few times in the past few months (including right now) since we have our toddler doing things with other kids. So far Not Covid, but that's just a matter of time, since I'm clearly getting stuff that is less infectious. It owns that no matter how many precautions I take, I'm gonna continually get got through my kid. That's just part of parenthood man. I got strep three times in one year from my daycare attending kids and being chronically sleep deprived long before covid or even SARS.
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Sep 7, 2023 20:42
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being sick all the time is normal, man
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Sep 7, 2023 20:44
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Oracle posted:That's just part of parenthood man. I got strep three times in one year from my daycare attending kids and being chronically sleep deprived long before covid or even SARS.
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Sep 7, 2023 20:48
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Zugzwang posted:Yeah, but now there's one more thing that has a nontrivial risk of long-term complications and is really good at reinfecting etc etc Yup. Thus why my kids still mask at school.
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Sep 7, 2023 20:51
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https://www.regulations.gov/document/CDC-2023-0055-0001 Apparently posted back in July. National Wastewater Surveillance System for COVID-19 and Other Infectious Disease Targets of Public Health Concern 2023-14413 "This notice invites comment on a proposed information collection project titled National Wastewater Surveillance System for COVID–19 and other infectious disease targets of public health concern. The proposed information collection project aims to collect pathogen and public health target concentration in wastewater, wastewater target variant sequencing data, sewershed spatial files, and associated sewershed-level case data from participating jurisdictions in the United States to inform infectious disease prevention and control efforts." Awesome! Oh wait what's this? "DATES: CDC must receive written comments on or before September 5, 2023." jfc...
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Sep 7, 2023 20:51
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Zugzwang posted:Yeah, but now there's one more thing that has a nontrivial risk of long-term complications and is really good at reinfecting etc etc on the plus side, at least it doesn't spread in schools
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Sep 7, 2023 20:52
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Real Mean Queen posted:As far as I can tell that's exactly what it is. Pausing to feel bad for a second before doing the bad thing anyway is more than somebody else did, and that means you're not the worst person in the world. Liberalism is about incremental improvement, so you can do all the same things as the worst person in the world as long as you feel weird about it for a second, because that's better than what somebody else did. Yeah I think this is a very real thing. Your lib friends who are "very careful" but their social media is full of unmasked selfies at concerts and bars. I think this is what they are doing. Louis CK had a bit about this where I think he's on a plane and thinks about saying "thank you for your service" to A Troop, doesn't say anything, and then gets smug about how even having the thought makes him superior to the other passengers. The he non consensually beats off in front of them I assume.
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Sep 7, 2023 20:54
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Zantie posted:https://www.regulations.gov/document/CDC-2023-0055-0001 Apparently posted back in July. is the proposal to create a better national wastewater surveillance system
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Sep 7, 2023 21:02
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Zugzwang posted:Yeah, but now there's one more thing that has a nontrivial risk of long-term complications and is really good at reinfecting etc etc Yeah it's this and the knowledge of knowing there's not a drat thing you can do about it, just sit and take it and oh well!
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Sep 7, 2023 21:03
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Zantie posted:https://www.regulations.gov/document/CDC-2023-0055-0001 Apparently posted back in July. The panel also nominally included m Fenarisk posted:Yeah it's this and the knowledge of knowing there's not a drat thing you can do about it, just sit and take it and oh well! 
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Sep 7, 2023 21:09
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at least we* have** the tools***!
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Sep 7, 2023 21:14
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Zantie posted:I'm eating lunch outside on a really nice day and suddenly I get a whiff of perfume and look up to see someone walking past like 30-40ft away. There's barely any breeze and the scent is gone like two seconds later. normal things lmao
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Sep 7, 2023 21:18
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NeonPunk posted:But that means that whole lot of people are either lying or wrong about the effectiveness of the XBB booster shots. That wouldn't happen would it? The neutralizing activity of XBB breakthrough sera in that preprint is: 1.) Much better than any of the OG or bivalent vaccinated sera, which are escaped entirely 2.) About an order of magnitude worse than for EG.5.1. 7, which is an alias for some XBB.1.9 sublineage So overall I think in line with expectations. I would also think, given what we've seen in the past, that the XBB booster would do better if you get more than one dose, spaced appropriately.
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Sep 7, 2023 21:26
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Zugzwang posted:I mean...this scans, right? Maybe it's a lot less infectious, but it's so immune-evasive that people have minimal protection against infection, whether they're vaccinated or have ~*hybrid immunity*~ etc. that makes sense to me. if it didn't have at least something going for it then we'd have never heard about it.
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Sep 7, 2023 21:29
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Sep 7, 2023 21:31
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Morbus posted:The neutralizing activity of XBB breakthrough sera in that preprint is: No novavax in the study?
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Sep 7, 2023 21:35
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Fat-roll your way to a better future.
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Sep 7, 2023 21:37
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any chance anyone's recently spotted anything new/of interest (studies / trials / lab results / measurements / etc.) re: either 222nm far uvc or iota carrageenan gonna look myself now too but just in case i miss something
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