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If they take Opytne then Bakhmut will be kindly screwed and shouldn't last the year.
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Sep 11, 2023 01:43
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the popes toes posted:If they take Opytne then Bakhmut will be kindly screwed and shouldn't last the year. Wrong Opytne. This one is just north of Donetsk.
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Sep 11, 2023 01:55
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Different one, there's at least two Opytne
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Sep 11, 2023 01:56
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the popes toes posted:If they take Opytne then Bakhmut will be kindly screwed and shouldn't last the year. this is the Opytne which if captured allows Ukraine to move on the donetsk airport and cause an irreversible escalation of pants making GBS threads
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Sep 11, 2023 01:59
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HonorableTB posted:this is the Opytne which if captured allows Ukraine to move on the donetsk airport and cause an irreversible escalation of pants making GBS threads What’s so important about the Donetsk airport?
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Sep 11, 2023 02:01
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Arivia posted:What’s so important about the Donetsk airport? Extremely important symbolic victory for Ukraine if captured. The Ukrainian fighters that fought against the Russians there in 2014-2015 got the nickname among the population as "Cyborgs" and get treated with a level of reverence in Ukrainian society that you see with things like the veterans that landed on Normandy, Battle of Britain pilots, etc https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/First_Battle_of_Donetsk_Airport https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Second_Battle_of_Donetsk_Airport HonorableTB fucked around with this message at 02:07 on Sep 11, 2023 |
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Sep 11, 2023 02:05
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HonorableTB posted:Extremely important symbolic victory for Ukraine if captured. The Ukrainian fighters that fought against the Russians there in 2014-2015 got the nickname among the population as "Cyborgs" How likekly is it?
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Sep 11, 2023 02:06
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Ukraine made a movie about it https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Cyborgs_(film)
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Sep 11, 2023 02:08
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redshirt posted:How likekly is it? DeepState has confirmed Ukraine at least partially controls Opytne so I'd say it's a lot more likely than I would have said last week, or any point from 2015 until now E: these are areas Ukraine has not controlled since 2014/2015. They've been out of Ukrainian control for a long time and that Ukraine is making significant advances and liberating places there is itself significant HonorableTB fucked around with this message at 02:13 on Sep 11, 2023 |
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Sep 11, 2023 02:10
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Ikasuhito posted:Wrong Opytne. This one is just north of Donetsk. Flavahbeast posted:Different one, there's at least two Opytne Ah, that's too bad. I sure would like to see Bakhmut go blue and yellow again. It would be a thing.
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Sep 11, 2023 02:13
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Runa posted:Ukraine made a movie about it any good? available on FREEVEE
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Sep 11, 2023 02:13
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Runa posted:Lula's position would be more understandable if Russia and Putin in particular had any value as an ally right now Gotta sell out ahead of time, get the good seats for when Russia actually isn't just leaving their closest allies in the cold and making them run to Russia's rivals. Of course Lula is a pathetic sack of poo poo with zero principles.
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Sep 11, 2023 02:27
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I remember watching the video of the last holdouts at donetsk in 2014, surrounded and being shot to hell, singing in unison in defiance of their coming defeat. Taking it back is an incredibly important emotional victory.
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Sep 11, 2023 02:36
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HonorableTB posted:Extremely important symbolic victory for Ukraine if captured. The Ukrainian fighters that fought against the Russians there in 2014-2015 got the nickname among the population as "Cyborgs" and get treated with a level of reverence in Ukrainian society that you see with things like the veterans that landed on Normandy, Battle of Britain pilots, etc Lieutenant General Yevhen Moisiuk, now the Deputy C-in-C of the Ukrainian armed forces, was the commander responsible for the staunch defense of the airport to the last. He got his promotion just the year before Puccia invaded the country.
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Sep 11, 2023 02:42
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There appears to be a string of lakes between Opytne and Donetsk airport. I think it's going to be a serious fight getting past those
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Sep 11, 2023 03:17
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Nessus posted:Sounds like Ukraine should send their greatest warrior or crafter on the "Orlanth Discovers Economical AA Technology" heroquest imo. Everyone should contribute cows to this vital quest as soon as possible.
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Sep 11, 2023 03:24
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Jet Jaguar posted:Everyone should contribute cows to this vital quest as soon as possible. Does this include the goon who wanted to kill and eat a cow in a backyard? Shitfucker posted:You know how people have pig roasts with a pig on a stick over a fire? Well I want to do that but with a cow, in my backyard, in suburban columbus,OH for a party. I can obtain a reasonably healthy cow from a friend for $200 and I know some hunters who would be willing to dress the carcass. So i guess, what would be the lagality of doing this in my backyard, I have no where else to do it.
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Sep 11, 2023 03:27
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that soccer thing was dumb as gently caress
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Sep 11, 2023 03:39
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Nessus posted:Sounds like Ukraine should send their greatest warrior or crafter on the "Orlanth Discovers Economical AA Technology" heroquest imo. Given the great dronening of Pskov airbase, I'm pretty sure that quest succeeded beyond all expectations bro
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Sep 11, 2023 03:50
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Sep 11, 2023 05:10
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Molothecat posted:that soccer thing was dumb as gently caress No, you are confused it's the other football.
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Sep 11, 2023 05:34
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Molothecat posted:that soccer thing was dumb as gently caress  , but also I thought it was fine, I'm not a handegg guy but I enjoy seeing things through other lenses. and I certainly don't want to discourage effortposts in here!
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Sep 11, 2023 05:39
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This has probably already been answered in this huge thread I have not followed, BUT... That planned Ukrainian naval drone attack that failed because the internet went down: Do we have any idea of the intended scale of it and what success might have meant wrt concrete damage done and its likely effect on Russian sea power and overall strength? I.e., was it a bfd that it failed, or a relatively small one? In the best case scenario, could it have weakened Russia's position significantly and for some time, or would it have been more of a blip on the radar, at best? A link of any kind would be great, because I'm sure these sorts of questions would already have been answered, if possible. Or do we not really know anything about the operation in question beyond what Isaacson reported?
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Sep 11, 2023 05:51
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marshalljim posted:This has probably already been answered in this huge thread I have not followed, BUT... Nobody knows because the Ukrainians never said anything about it. It was a mystery at the time and people largely forgot about it until Musk started bragging that he had defeated the Ukrainians at Russian request.
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Sep 11, 2023 05:57
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Blistex posted:If I were Putin, I'd abandon all occupied territory and fall back to Crimea. Fortify the poo poo out of it, and put every free SAM along its coast, and hope that Western support wanes, and people start telling Ukraine to just forget about Crimea and sign something. Then declare victory and have a fatal poop related fall. The problem for Russia is that everybody knows by now that it's just a pause while they regain strength. In a few years they'll be back for round Russia takes a slice of salami every few years. This is just the first time they got more than a "tut-tut" from the west. And even then, only because Ukraine resisted better than expected AND the UK pushed the rest of NATO into providing actual help, instead of 5k helmets and some bandages. Western support isn't going away and Ukraine isn't goin to stop until they get all their land back. "Letting the nazi's have the Sudetenland and then they'll stop." Didn't work for Hitler and hasn't worked for stopping Putin. RBA-Wintrow fucked around with this message at 06:11 on Sep 11, 2023 |
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Sep 11, 2023 06:08
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And russia/pucia already did the "pullback and fortify" thing and Ukraine is currently smashing through that. Piling up all their AA in Crimea just puts it all in HIMARS and future F-16 HARM range.
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Sep 11, 2023 06:18
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RBA-Wintrow posted:The problem for Russia is that everybody knows by now that it's just a pause while they regain strength. In a few years they'll be back for round reminder that germany did actually send 5000 helmets and had to be shamed heavily into sending actual arms https://www.theguardian.com/world/2022/jan/26/russia-ukraine-germany-under-pressure-to-back-eu-military-training-mission-in-ukraine just to give some context for why anyone curious why specifically 5000 helmets was mentioned quote:This article is more than 1 year old
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Sep 11, 2023 06:20
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marshalljim posted:This has probably already been answered in this huge thread I have not followed, BUT... This was one of the drones that washed ashore after the failed Starlink comms allowing the Russians to study it intact. It allowed them time to set up naval nets around Sevastopol, other ports, and the bridges to avert more drone attacks. The Black Sea fleet launches cruise missiles at Ukrainian cities, guards the naval supply lines to the southern theater, and blockades the shipping corridor that's continuing to cause food crises in Africa. So yeah, sinking it in a surprise attack would have been a bfd.
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Sep 11, 2023 06:21
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RBA-Wintrow posted:The problem for Russia is that everybody knows by now that it's just a pause while they regain strength. In a few years they'll be back for round
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Sep 11, 2023 06:34
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RBA-Wintrow posted:Western support isn't going away and Ukraine isn't going to stop until they get all their land back. I wish those two things were carved in stone but they are very much not. Just for one (and the most important) there's an election in the US next November and if one side wins then that's it for Ukraine - They're hosed. There's already a fair bit of western pressure for a negotiated settlement that sees Ukraine go back to something like the pre 2020 border and while they won't accept it now who can say what they'll accept after another year or two of war? This war is not likely to end any time soon and democracies can be fickle. Fingers crossed both of things remain true but they're not things we can just assume beyond the near future.
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Sep 11, 2023 06:37
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RBA-Wintrow posted:This is just the first time they got more than a "tut-tut" from the west. And even then, only because Ukraine resisted better than expected AND the UK pushed the rest of NATO into providing actual help, instead of 5k helmets and some bandages. While the UK was definitely at the forefront of providing lethal aid to Ukraine, this is a mischaracterization of events. They absolutely weren't the only ones in NATO doing it or advocating for it.
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Sep 11, 2023 06:41
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Ikasuhito posted:Wrong Opytne. This one is just north of Donetsk. Flavahbeast posted:Different one, there's at least two Opytne An Opytne-al illusion? 
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Sep 11, 2023 06:43
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Nessus posted:Sounds like Ukraine should send their greatest warrior or crafter on the "Orlanth Discovers Economical AA Technology" heroquest imo. Ukraine just did the Issaries heroquest and they united pretty much the entire western faction. They should probably wait at least 2 years before their next one or they might get lost in time and space.
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Sep 11, 2023 07:07
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Modi 4D capture of russian oil reserves == Hero of Ukraine??  
enigma74 fucked around with this message at 07:43 on Sep 11, 2023 |
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Sep 11, 2023 07:12
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HonorableTB posted:Extremely important symbolic victory for Ukraine if captured. The Ukrainian fighters that fought against the Russians there in 2014-2015 got the nickname among the population as "Cyborgs" and get treated with a level of reverence in Ukrainian society that you see with things like the veterans that landed on Normandy, Battle of Britain pilots, etc What the gently caress, these articles are written terribly and without a pretense of neutrality. I read them despite being aware of the battles because I thought I might learn something. The first is especially galling because it goes out of its way to repeatedly talk about the "pro-russian forces" and then in the last paragraph is like "oh btw the ~pro-russian forces~ lost about 40 people, 34 of whom were confirmed to be russian." Ahhh yes, I see now, they supported russia because they were loving russian invaders almost exclusively, good work calling them insurgents and separatists and "pro-russian forces" throughout the article. Second isn't any better, someone shoehorns in poo poo like "30 people died, including one member of the right brigade" over and over in the article. 
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Sep 11, 2023 08:14
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such a principled and unconstitutional stance against US imperialism  
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Sep 11, 2023 08:20
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Dwesa posted:such a principled and unconstitutional stance against US imperialism lol anyway,
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Sep 11, 2023 08:22
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lmao lula: "sorry sorry im deleting it sorry"
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Sep 11, 2023 08:26
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Yes, and clearly it was the "thickheaded goons who do not understand world politics" who said that Lula was an idiot to say something like that in the first place. Maybe Party Ape can write another 5000-word epic using NASCAR and wrestling as metaphors for explaining us lesser beings how Lula being sorry for saying stupid Putin-supporting things actually means Lula isn't sorry and how this just makes Putin's regime and bitcoin stronger.
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Sep 11, 2023 08:47
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It's obvious that Lula just needs to sit down with the judiciary and explain why it is really important for Brazil FC that Russia Rovers don't go down this season.
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