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Captain Foo posted:I just killed Ibis with the lance/bunker wombo combo How does this work? Whenever I try it they just fly away after I hit them with the lance. Do you only do it when the lance hit will stagger?
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johnny park posted:How does this work? Whenever I try it they just fly away after I hit them with the lance. Do you only do it when the lance hit will stagger? Yeah pretty much, i guess? Also you can switch earlier than you might think you can
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yeah, doing charged lance after dodging the uh... sweeping move along the ground that it stands still at the end of, is the easiest opening for that.
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Captain Foo posted:I just killed Ibis with the lance/bunker wombo combo hell yeah
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I've decided to swap to 6-cell missile launchers to better build stagger for my laser pistol build. Don't remember the part name, but it's a later unlock that kinda launches them almost simultaneously at higher Velocity than the standard missiles. Haven't actually tested it out yet though. Not really sure what else would be good for building stagger that wouldn't force me to stop zooming. Well, unless I go Wheelchair Tank.
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ZeusCannon posted:Those chase laser drones you get (Not the turret and not the orbit) are honestly pretty good for keeping pressure on. And the charged shot hits pretty hard I only learned you can charge them the other day. All of a sudden they started slapping. Also, holy hell the difference on the charged Coral missiles. ≈800 to 4999
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I've been trying to find the energy build that works for me - but I don't think the VE-20B (the highest energy weapon stat, painfully low EN output) can possibly work with four energy weapons. Dual laser pistol + laser cannon is the lowest energy weapon en load possible, but the compromises everywhere else leave you picking at least two of fragile, slow and inaccurate. To get even a middling booster and FCS in the build I got railroaded into the Tian-Qiang head, Tool arms and Orbiter legs. So just barely functional. Energy weapons seem like great matches for the wheelchair tank legs though, making use of no charge-shot slowdown stability and fantastic ground speed to stay at preferred ranges.
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Sep 12, 2023 01:28
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it looks like the patch rolled back my save an entire chapter. I have AC data saved with the laser lance equipped (unlocks at the beginning of chapter 4) and I'm looking at surveying Xylem and taking on the cataphract again.
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Sep 12, 2023 01:32
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Grayshift posted:I've been trying to find the energy build that works for me - but I don't think the VE-20B (the highest energy weapon stat, painfully low EN output) can possibly work with four energy weapons. Dual laser pistol + laser cannon is the lowest energy weapon en load possible, but the compromises everywhere else leave you picking at least two of fragile, slow and inaccurate. To get even a middling booster and FCS in the build I got railroaded into the Tian-Qiang head, Tool arms and Orbiter legs. So just barely functional. Yeah, the highest energy firearm spec is hard to use with more than 2 energy weapons. I've seen builds using it and carrying only 2 of the larger laser rifle. Don't forget to pick a Core with a large EN Output efficiency.
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Sep 12, 2023 01:33
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drat they killed him rip https://twitter.com/Ekuborz/status/1701184661454807188
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Captain Foo posted:I just killed Ibis with the lance/bunker wombo combo
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IthilionTheBrave posted:I've decided to swap to 6-cell missile launchers to better build stagger for my laser pistol build. Don't remember the part name, but it's a later unlock that kinda launches them almost simultaneously at higher Velocity than the standard missiles. Haven't actually tested it out yet though. Not really sure what else would be good for building stagger that wouldn't force me to stop zooming. Well, unless I go Wheelchair Tank. The 6-cell horizontal missile launcher has kind of become my favorite missile shoulder launcher lately too. It sits in a great spot between damage per volley, relatively fast reload time to keep the pressure on, and weight. Vertical launchers always seem better for fast moving targets though. The x8 verts seem kind of ideal there as the x12 almost always feels like overkill except if you’re going full pvp missileboat. GreatGreen fucked around with this message at 02:15 on Sep 12, 2023 |
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Zikan posted:drat they killed him rip Holy poo poo that’s so slow haha
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Sep 12, 2023 01:46
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I used 2x SMGs + 6 horizontals for like 90% of the game
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Sep 12, 2023 01:47
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Doing ng++. Balteus is a fuckin joke now.
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Currently cruising through NG+ with two gun orbits, Ransetsu-RF, and whatever flavour melee feels right at the time. The orbits plus Ransetsu make for easy and frequent staggers (until the orbits overheat).
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Zikan posted:drat they killed him rip Look at how they massacred my boy
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This patch was the worst thing to ever happen on 9/11
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Big Bowie Bonanza posted:This patch was the worst thing to ever happen on 9/11 A second Songbird has hit BALTEUS
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Sep 12, 2023 02:04
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Downloading the "I beat pre nerf balteus" decal
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 Pre 9/11 attack the watchpoint cheevo post
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Jerkface posted:Downloading the "I beat pre nerf balteus" decal The last thing enemy MT's see before death is a pile bunker to the face followed by "YOU CHEATED NOT ONLY THE GAME, BUT YOURSELF" emblazed across my AC torso.
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Sep 12, 2023 02:13
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does balteus even shoot missiles after the first barrage? like why people are malding about this change or acting like it's a nerf to the boss
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It does, though the more dangerous attacks were always the grenade and flame swords imo
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It's just weird to me that they bothered at all. I haven't gotten to Ibis yet so no comment there but Balteus and Sea Spider aren't really that hard. Use pulse guns or rapid fire weapons then time your big boy shots for Stargazer Gundam, go above or into CS Lewis's attacks and boost away from the spinning bird kick (or facetank it if you're a bad like me idk) and go all in on ballistics and explosives or the piledriver.
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GreatGreen posted:Vertical launchers always seem better for fast moving targets though. The x8 verts seem kind of ideal there as the x12 almost always feels like overkill except if you’re going full pvp missileboat. x8 is usually exactly enough to kill a shield MT over their shield. While still enough to multi kill drones, or at least do 90% damage to chump MT. Meanwhile the x12 takes what feels like forever to multilock even with a good missile FCS.
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just got to (what i think is the final boss) -------------------on the satellite for the first time and this seems like a doozy
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imo nerfing the missile tracking is a good thing because it will help players learn the most important lesson in this game: bosses cannot hit you if you are directly above them. AFAIK balteus is the only exception to that rule
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RBA Starblade posted:It's just weird to me that they bothered at all. I haven't gotten to Ibis yet so no comment there but Balteus and Sea Spider aren't really that hard.
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RBA Starblade posted:It's just weird to me that they bothered at all. I haven't gotten to Ibis yet so no comment there but Balteus and Sea Spider aren't really that hard. Use pulse guns or rapid fire weapons then time your big boy shots for Stargazer Gundam, go above or into CS Lewis's attacks and boost away from the spinning bird kick (or facetank it if you're a bad like me idk) and go all in on ballistics and explosives or the piledriver. It feels very unrewarding for new players to boost at Balteus correctly and still have the missles swing in and hit you either during the attempt or afterwards while you're right up next to Balteus. It's a good change.
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^agreeing with this the missiles weren't even the part of balteus that kicks your rear end, they just psyche people out
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Grayshift posted:I've been trying to find the energy build that works for me - but I don't think the VE-20B (the highest energy weapon stat, painfully low EN output) can possibly work with four energy weapons. Dual laser pistol + laser cannon is the lowest energy weapon en load possible, but the compromises everywhere else leave you picking at least two of fragile, slow and inaccurate. To get even a middling booster and FCS in the build I got railroaded into the Tian-Qiang head, Tool arms and Orbiter legs. So just barely functional.
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I wish all the bosses were available to fight any time in the arena so you could skip the boss run when you wanted to try out builds on them.
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I've done it. I've legally become Armored Core. Last pics of my sweet mech before I uninstall. NG++ thoughts: lmao loving iguazu you god drat dweeb TGLT fucked around with this message at 03:56 on Sep 12, 2023 |
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Is there a reason the patch is like 45 gigs to download?
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Usually I don't care if they make bosses easier or whatever, but in this case I really wanted specifically my older brothers to suffer through Balteus like I did. Everyone else is fine to deal with the easier version, but I wanted those two to be in the same state of misery as I was that forced me to start actually getting good at the game.
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Arc Hammer posted:Is there a reason the patch is like 45 gigs to download?
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I've just entered chapter 3 of NG++ and I couldn't be happier with the AC I've settled on. First play was an increasingly heavy middleweight, NG+ I tried it with a lighter speed frame, but I realized I'm having the most fun by strapping on the biggest guns. Those Spring Chicken legs are putting in the work, since jumping around gives me just enough mobility to stay alive while taking huge chunks out of everything. There's something to be said about skillful maneuvering or getting in a massive charged piledriver hit, but blowing everything away with overwhelming firepower is a helluva power fantasy. That laser rifle is pretty ridiculous to try to use on a non-tank build, weighing in at 7600, but it was totally worth it. Just be careful about charging shots, since it's already been established that the AI is reading your controller. The Sea Spider was not having any of it.
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Caesar Saladin posted:Usually I don't care if they make bosses easier or whatever, but in this case I really wanted specifically my older brothers to suffer through Balteus like I did. Everyone else is fine to deal with the easier version, but I wanted those two to be in the same state of misery as I was that forced me to start actually getting good at the game. You could always get a hard copy of the console version and force them to play offline on the 1.0 version until they beat Balteus.
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Neddy Seagoon posted:It feels very unrewarding for new players to boost at Balteus correctly and still have the missles swing in and hit you either during the attempt or afterwards while you're right up next to Balteus. It's a good change. I just boosted in a straight line and the missiles did like 200 damage 
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