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Zero VGS posted:I thought MGS2 writing was too farfetched in 2001, but Kojima is basically Nostradamus
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Sep 12, 2023 06:36
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Moktaro posted:Yeah, the reaction is gonna be more like a call over the diplomatic channel saying "We're watching you....SCUM!" putin should have put a bucket on nato's head then he could have stolen ukraine without worry
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Sep 12, 2023 06:37
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HonorableTB posted:For a country with a true nuclear triad there is no such thing as a decapitation strike. Russia, as bad off as it is, would be able to respond no matter what people think of their "readiness". These systems have shelf lives and require costly maintenance and upkeep to sustain mission effectiveness. Everything we've seen since this invasion began suggests such are not priorities the Russian system is interested in or perhaps even capable of taking on. And that's before even getting to NATO's expanding capabilities.
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Sep 12, 2023 06:46
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Cugel the Clever posted:But that's the whole point: the war has laid bare the deep rot in the Russian military, such that reasonable people might question whether it can truly be said to retain a meaningful nuclear triad. That's certainly not a suggestion that this theory should be tested, just a point of inquiry which intelligence agencies have no doubt redoubled serious investigation into. You're right on multiple levels and this is one of the cases where I would give just about anything to be a fly on the wall of a SCIF where Russia's true nuclear capabilities are being discussed. I have a burning desire to know just how close the Sarmat is to its stated performance profile (or indeed whether the Sarmat has been deployed at all...it was supposed to enter active duty this month but I have seen nothing about it) E: gently caress that Sarmat is such a cool design that it's a shame it had to be designed by the country least able to actually loving field them in active service. It can carry a 10 ton payload spread across 10 750kt/15 MIRV warheads, up to 24 Avangard hypersonic glide vehicles, or a combination of warheads and PENAIDS vs ABM systems. The Sarmat also has a short boost phase that drastically cuts the window where infrared satellites can track it (like the US SBIS constellation) and it can loving fly over the South Pole which few ICBMs can do (requires Fractional Orbital Bombardment capability) and if the Sarmat can do even half of this stuff it's better than anything the US currently has in use as far as ICBMs go (Minuteman III) E2: FOBS really makes all the difference. FOBS-using weapons have no range limit, its flight path will not reveal target locations, and warheads can be directed to North America via the South Pole which negates the early detection by NORAD which has most of its over-the-horizon radar arrays facing towards the North Pole. They'd be a sucker punch and a half HonorableTB fucked around with this message at 06:59 on Sep 12, 2023 |
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Sep 12, 2023 06:50
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Moktaro posted:Yeah, the reaction is gonna be more like a call over the diplomatic channel saying "We're watching you....SCUM!" The reason putin is still alive is that every time somebody tries to assassinate him, it displays the "with this character's death the threads of prophecy has been severed" message. loving Bethesda, always setting the worst npcs as essential.
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Sep 12, 2023 06:59
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Nessus posted:I read a collection of "Barefoot Gen" my local library had, which was plenty Yeah, uh, if MAD was proven not to be real, "Nuclear states can have a little tac nuke launching, as a treat" is only marginally less horrific than total nuclear exchange. "The world isn't ending tomorrow, but this section of the continent sure is"
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Sep 12, 2023 07:06
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Ronwayne posted:Yeah, uh, if MAD was proven not to be real, "Nuclear states can have a little tac nuke launching, as a treat" is only marginally less horrific than total nuclear exchange. "The world isn't ending tomorrow, but this section of the continent sure is" here i did a render of what the most common russian nuclear warhead would do to seattle (TOPOL 800kt)    Gray circles are the crater radius and lip (180 meters radius, 86 meters deep), the first orange circle is the fireball radius (2.45km2), the next circle is the moderate blast damage radius of 5psi (6.53km) where most residential buildings collapse and injuries are universal. The next circle out is the thermal radiation radius for 3rd degree burns (11.1km) where anyone exposed to the flash gets roasted. The next circle out is the light blast damage radius of 1 psi (18.4km) where almost all windows are broken and injuries are moderate. The mushroom cloud would reach 19km in altitude, the head diameter would be 25.4km This is with a sub-megaton yield weapon. The vast majority of strategic nuclear weaponry possessed by nuclear states with intercontinental reach exceed this yield by a factor of 15 or more. The most powerful ICBM deployed weapon currently in the US arsenal is roughly 9x more powerful than this, that being the W-53 Titan-II warhead at 9 Megatons yield. China's current ICBM based weapons - the Dong Feng 5 - are all at 5 megaton yield per warhead. Russia's currently deployed weapons are among the weaker of the main nuclear powers but they have the most of them, so it's a moot point regardless. Final edit I promise: this is a comparison shot between the typical Russian warhead and the American W-53, to show the vast difference in scale between kiloton and megaton   For another reference point this is what such a mushroom cloud (in downtown Seattle) would look like from my apartment 22 miles away:  HonorableTB fucked around with this message at 07:32 on Sep 12, 2023 |
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Sep 12, 2023 07:15
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sebmojo posted:I've seen a bunch of people being excited about NATO literally invading Russia, which would amount to the same thing. again, 1) where and 2) why the gently caress are you reading such absolute drivel
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Sep 12, 2023 07:31
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Alan Smithee posted:Putin: "Get me the Z team" The term "A-Team" is a nickname coined for U.S. Special Forces' Operational Detachments Alpha (ODA) during the Vietnam War. As this is Putin's Special Military Operation, They would be "The P-Team". Though he may refer to the men as his "Zee-men".
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Sep 12, 2023 07:37
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I for one am inexpressibly excited for the bounty of samovars our polish allies will bring home to the west when nato enacts article 5.5
Rides Naked fucked around with this message at 07:41 on Sep 12, 2023 |
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Sep 12, 2023 07:39
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RBA-Wintrow posted:The term "A-Team" is a nickname coined for U.S. Special Forces' Operational Detachments Alpha (ODA) during the Vietnam War. "Ivan, vake up, we have mission."
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Sep 12, 2023 07:40
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Ukraine Nuclear War Anxiety Thread: Sleepless over Seattle
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Sep 12, 2023 07:44
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Mr. Sunshine posted:Ukraine Nuclear War Anxiety Thread: Sleepless over Seattle if it'll make rents go down, hell,
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Sep 12, 2023 07:47
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JFC, just bring Cinci back and make them mod for a day, just long enough to poo poo down all the freaking Nuke Chat HonorableTB posted:For another reference point this is what such a mushroom cloud (in downtown Seattle) would look like from my apartment 22 miles away: You know what? Forget that, let it go, just make this thread title. (sorry TB, love you, but what even)
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Sep 12, 2023 07:54
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AJA posted:JFC, just bring Cinci back and make them mod for a day, just long enough to poo poo down all the freaking Nuke Chat I don't get many opportunities to go hog wild with my expertise and drat it I wasnt going to let that one slip thru my fingers after dealing with cinci PMing me after every sixer with a scold for what feels like months! (I am done with nukechat for what it's worth, I made the point I wanted to make regarding the previous discussion about tactical vs strategic nuclear usage and effects)
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Sep 12, 2023 07:58
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Herstory Begins Now posted:again, 1) where and 2) why the gently caress are you reading such absolute drivel On these forums, and because it was in front of my eyes, I guess? To be rigorously fair, it wasn't actually a bunch, it was like two posters who are known idiots. I think it's more an excess of POOPIN IS A BUTTE enthusiasm then genuine keenness for a nuclear Holocaust.
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Sep 12, 2023 08:06
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HonorableTB posted:I don't get many opportunities to go hog wild with my expertise and drat it I wasnt going to let that one slip thru my fingers after dealing with cinci PMing me after every sixer with a scold for what feels like months! (I am done with nukechat for what it's worth, I made the point I wanted to make regarding the previous discussion about tactical vs strategic nuclear usage and effects) But, seriously, you brought powerpoints. Never bring powerpoints  (also, I hope Seattle stays safe. And Putin is a piece of poo poo). And it's a new day and Ukraine is still free
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Sep 12, 2023 08:07
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Haha noted I'll leave the PowerPoints for perun
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Sep 12, 2023 08:10
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HonorableTB posted:Sarmat is such a cool design What part of the Russia's recent track record with its NATO and West-killing wunderwaffe or even normal weapon's development programs makes you think that Sarmat isn't just another grift? And for the record I didn't imply at any point that we should attack Russia directly nor do I wish for a nuclear holocaust, I was just saying that Putin is full of poo poo declaring that they have thousands and thousands of functional nukes. Those things have shelf life and actually cost money to be kept functional, and there is nothing indicating that the subs, silos, launch vehicles, or nukes themselves would have been spared from "generals and other official pocket the maintenance and development money and leave the existing stuff to rot in place" that affects every other service arm of their military, along with the rest of the Russian state. Only difference is that with nuclear arms you really cannot strip them to parts and sell them, but that does not mean you cannot make millions by not doing service to the 99.5% of the supply, buying off the internal officials with the money, and letting the western inspectors inspect the 0.5% which is kept in working condition.
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Sep 12, 2023 08:24
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RBA-Wintrow posted:The term "A-Team" is a nickname coined for U.S. Special Forces' Operational Detachments Alpha (ODA) during the Vietnam War. "Z Men" already taken by the Brits back in 1918: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Class_Z_Reserve 
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Sep 12, 2023 08:38
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AJA posted:Understood. And sorry to quote you specifically  i enjoyed the powerpoints
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Sep 12, 2023 08:46
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If we're talking about wacky conspircary theories, how about those guys who think nukes are fake and never worked.
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Sep 12, 2023 08:47
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Xenocides posted:I intend to become the Bisexual Warlord of the Wastes and dress like a Mad Max villain. Join me! Hell yeah. Time to prepare. *watches Australian dashcam videos*
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Sep 12, 2023 09:08
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Tunicate posted:If we're talking about wacky conspircary theories, how about those guys who think nukes are fake and never worked. Lmao what? What’s their take on Hiroshima and Nagasaki then?
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Sep 12, 2023 09:30
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JustCallMeDC posted:Lmao what? What’s their take on Hiroshima and Nagasaki then? Lol uh were you there??? NASA cgi. Etc etc I assume
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Sep 12, 2023 09:35
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Nessus posted:I think a lot of people have drunk a little too deep of the online 'dur hur isn't it funny how everything's awful and we all long for death haha I do wonder how much the bad state of psychiatric healthcare in the US (and to be fair also elsewhere) has affected the mood of online discussion - because that sounds extremely familiar. Hell, the front-page of imgur, supposedly a dumb memes and cat pictures page, has a continuous trickle of "ha ha everyone else also longs for death right?" mixed in.
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Sep 12, 2023 09:38
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anyway my thoughts on world politics are ((recites a symptom list of major depression))' poo poo.
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HonorableTB posted:here i did a render of what the most common russian nuclear warhead would do to seattle (TOPOL 800kt) Thanks for posting this. It is both very cool and utterly terrifying.
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Sep 12, 2023 09:45
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On the subject of people wishing to die - they probably fly Russian airlines. https://twitter.com/wartranslated/status/1701516381735293320
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Sep 12, 2023 09:47
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HonorableTB posted:E: gently caress that Sarmat is such a cool design An old Patriot on auto pilot while in standby mode shot down wunderwaffe Kinzhal.
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Sep 12, 2023 10:02
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Jon Bois documentaries are getting weird
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Sep 12, 2023 10:16
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quote:Former President George W. Bush said on Sunday that he was shocked to discover Yevgeny Prigozhin — the Wagner Group's founder — served him dinner more than 17 years ago. 
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Sep 12, 2023 10:23
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mobby_6kl posted:
are those servers 12 and why are their outfits so baggy
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Sep 12, 2023 10:33
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the popes toes posted:Not nuke grifting but grifing nonetheless  Jesus comrade I just wanted some tanks
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Sep 12, 2023 10:54
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Gee, guess Putins sultry smokey eyes didnt quite reveal ALL did they George?
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Sep 12, 2023 10:55
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spunkshui posted:“Since 2000, North Korea's birth rate has exceeded its death rate; the natural growth is positive. In terms of age structure, the population is dominated by the 15–64-year-old segment (68.09%). The median age of the population is 32.9 years.” "do you love dear leader or do you love Kpop?" "KPOP!!!" "so do you love kpop or your parents?" "KPOP!!!" "eh close enough"
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Sep 12, 2023 10:59
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Putin has spoken  
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Sep 12, 2023 11:15
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spankmeister posted:If you put effort into makoing your tanks reverse faster instead of going forward it means youre winning right? I mean, your tank being able to reverse quickly is definitely a great thing. I know modern optics and weapon systems have changed things, but the ability to get behind something solid REAL loving FAST after firing and revealing your position is traditionally a real good move. Or after coming under fire suddenly. Or in general. But it is definitely kinda comical that the year is 2023 and they are now starting to figure out that hey, maybe our loving MBT that was launched in 1980 should be able to reverse at faster than walking speed?
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Sep 12, 2023 11:16
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Dwesa posted:Putin has spoken 
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Sep 12, 2023 11:20
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Dwesa posted:Putin has spoken I was thinking that was a sensible number until I saw "in the current counter offensive"
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Sep 12, 2023 11:33
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Mikojan posted:I was thinking that was a sensible number It's an extremely absurd number in all metrics. 16,000 IMVs/IFVs is half of what Puccia itself supposedly had in stock before the war, even though we know it was far less. Terrorist Guzenko having a real moment: 
zone fucked around with this message at 11:58 on Sep 12, 2023 |
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