Marvel SNAP! If you keep pulling Man-Thing you're liable to go blind

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Red: Apr 15, 2003; Yeah, great at getting us into Wawa.

Wouldn't playing a Sentinel keep your hand the same size?

# ? Sep 14, 2023 05:40

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# ? Jun 6, 2024 08:14

pray for my aunt: Feb 13, 2012; 14980c8b8a96fd9e279796a61cf82c9c

Red posted:

Wouldn't playing a Sentinel keep your hand the same size?

Look at the locations.

# ? Sep 14, 2023 07:00

victorious: Jul 2, 2007; As a youth I prayed, "Give me chastity and continence, but not yet."

My galaxy brain move today was playing a free Living Tribunal from The Raft which diluted my overall power enough to take me from winning two lanes to winning none.

# ? Sep 14, 2023 07:56

Jedit: Dec 10, 2011; Proudly supporting vanilla legends 1994-2014

pray for my aunt posted:

Look at the locations.

Galaxy brain memes usually have a fourth panel. You should be thanking them for providing it.

# ? Sep 14, 2023 08:53

thebardyspoon: Jun 30, 2005

Oh it turns out I loving hate this game when Galactus is a thing.

# ? Sep 14, 2023 12:36

Hobo Clown: Oct 16, 2012; Here it is, Baby.
Your killer track.

Bringing back the Galactus meta while introducing the "you can't retreat" location was certainly a choice

# ? Sep 14, 2023 12:47

Artelier: Jan 23, 2015

WE DOIN IT NOW posted:

I just made it to infinite with this stupid Guardians/Alioth deck that people seem to not be prepared for to counter-play because who the gently caress plays Guardians.

Game 1 with this deck and I find it really fun and also it's the best Hobgoblins outcome I've ever had also I was really really hoping the opponent wasn't running Legion

I was debating putting Storm on the right in case for Legion, but I was also deliberating if the opponent was running Galactus and might yolo right into a loss but while I was thinking they retreated phew

# ? Sep 14, 2023 12:48

cinnamon rollout: Jun 12, 2001; The early bird gets the worm

When you get tired of playing against Galactus/Alioth it might do you some good to switch to a deck that runs Cosmo/armor, Thanos ongoing comes to mind if you have the cards for it

# ? Sep 14, 2023 13:03

Red: Apr 15, 2003; Yeah, great at getting us into Wawa.

pray for my aunt posted:

Look at the locations.

Ohhhh, gently caress me.

Also, I like that the vault reopens on turn 7.

# ? Sep 14, 2023 14:55

FireWorksWell: Nov 27, 2014; (It's you!)

Red posted:

Ohhhh, gently caress me.

Also, I like that the vault reopens on turn 7.

Me too!

Now if only Leech worked the same drat way.

# ? Sep 14, 2023 15:00

Red: Apr 15, 2003; Yeah, great at getting us into Wawa.

I don't know what is going on, but every deck I'm facing is Wong-based. After a few rounds in Conquest, I just conceded after seeing another Wong. Did something happen to make everyone want to play him?

# ? Sep 14, 2023 16:16

Snazzy Frocks: Mar 31, 2003; Scratchmo

Maybe it's that his counters aren't in vogue right now. Everyone is worried about Galactus alioth

# ? Sep 14, 2023 16:36

Nikumatic: Feb 13, 2012; a fantastic machine made of meat

Wong is super fun so get away with him whenever you can

# ? Sep 14, 2023 16:43

flatluigi: Apr 23, 2008; here come the planes

RIP collector

# ? Sep 14, 2023 18:15

FlamingLiberal: Jan 18, 2009; Would you like to play a game?

OTA update just came through

Nerfed- The Collector

Buffed: Spider-Ham, Lady Sif, Black Cat, Shadow King

# ? Sep 14, 2023 18:17

New Leaf: Jul 24, 2013; Dragon Balls? Are they tasty?

flatluigi posted:

RIP collector

Oh gently caress off SD.. This sucks.

Edit: Although wasn't he 2/0 back in the day too? I guess he's still usable, it's just 2 power, but still. He was fine the way he was, they're nerfing things around the problems and not the problems themselves.

New Leaf fucked around with this message at 18:20 on Sep 14, 2023

# ? Sep 14, 2023 18:18

FlamingLiberal: Jan 18, 2009; Would you like to play a game?

I think he was yeah

# ? Sep 14, 2023 18:26

Red: Apr 15, 2003; Yeah, great at getting us into Wawa.

quote:

Today, we are burdened with glorious purpose. It�s been a wild start to the season for MARVEL SNAP, with Loki leaping into the metagame and setting it spinning. While we know Loki decks have been everywhere�they�re one of the most popular archetypes in the history of the game�the actual performance of these decks has not been hyper-concerning, as the metagame rapidly shifted to favor linear strategies that could dodge their own cards well. Today�s OTA will seek to push a few other cards into the limelight while shaving some strength away from decks based on the trickster god himself.

The Collector
[Old] 2/2 � When a card enters your hand from anywhere (except your deck), +1 Power.
[Change] 2/2 -> 2/0
Taneleer Tivan, better known by the above moniker, has become the primary Power carry in virtually every Loki-based deck. We�re sure he�ll still fill that role well with this change, but this should help other decks build boards that at least threaten to compete with him. It�s a ding to his use in other decks, but that was already pretty low, and Loki will ensure he always has one or more homes available. This change also makes him more vulnerable to a few counters, such as�

Shadow King
[Old] 3/3 � On Reveal: Set all cards here to their original base Power.
[Change] 3/3 -> 2/3
The recent surge in Shuri and The Collector has been good news for Shadow King, who is seeing play despite being relatively inefficient and occasionally reliant on revealing last. We decided to take a similar approach here to what we did successfully for Luke Cage and Invisible Woman, boosting his base rate to a level that players can justify playing in a wider range of strategies than Silver Surfer and Cerebro. We expect this will also relieve some of the pressure on Shang-Chi by diversifying the ways in which players can counter huge amounts of Power.

Lady Sif
[Old] 3/4 � On Reveal: Discard the highest-cost card from your hand.
[Change] 3/4 -> 3/5
Lady Sif is one of those cards that�s always been solid and had a home in a couple specific decks, most obviously Apocalypse, Hela, and Agatha. However, her individual performance hasn�t been stellar, and when a lynchpin card for so many decks isn�t doing well, we like to poke at that a bit. We don�t feel this will upend the metagame or anything, but pushing some medium-performance decks towards some time under the sun is one of the things we like to do via OTA, so let�s try it out here.

Spider-Ham
[Old] 2/2 � On Reveal: Transform the leftmost card in your opponent�s hand into a Pig, keeping its Power and Cost.
[Change] 2/2 -> 1/1
We suspected the change in last week�s patch might be damaging to Spider-Ham�s usage, but we weren�t sure�probably something like 65% sure, but that�s a fair amount of doubt. Given we had an OTA coming just one week later, we decided to launch the patch with his 2/2 stats, then buff to 1/1 if that week indicated he needed the help. It did, so here we are.

Black Cat
[Old] 3/7 � If you end the turn with this in your hand, discard it.
[Change] 3/7 -> 4/9
Black Cat�s been one of our weaker-performing cards for a long time. That might not be something we can fix with an OTA, but we�ve played with this version enough ourselves to at least be interested in seeing what develops, especially with a couple future cards forthcoming. Yes, this makes you more likely to discard her than play her, but the only decks interested in Black Cat were already assuming you�d be doing that. Increasing her Power makes that a better perk, and the number 9 is especially apt for the feline femme fatale.

# ? Sep 14, 2023 18:33

Red: Apr 15, 2003; Yeah, great at getting us into Wawa.

I feel like Black Cat being only used for Hela decks, and not even being automatic for those kind of illustrates the problem with Black Cat.

# ? Sep 14, 2023 18:39

No Wave: Sep 18, 2005; HA! HA! NICE! WHAT A TOOL!

New Leaf posted:

Oh gently caress off SD.. This sucks.

Edit: Although wasn't he 2/0 back in the day too? I guess he's still usable, it's just 2 power, but still. He was fine the way he was, they're nerfing things around the problems and not the problems themselves.

He was 2/0 that gave +2 per card, and that was op even in a world where A13 sentinel and moon girl were the only triggers.

# ? Sep 14, 2023 18:49

Sandwolf: Jan 23, 2007; i'll be harpo

Collector will end up at 2/1 after they realize they completely killed a card for Loki�s sake.

# ? Sep 14, 2023 19:03

The Sean: Apr 17, 2005; Am I handsome now?

Sandwolf posted:

Collector will end up at 2/1 after they realize they completely killed a card for Loki�s sake.

Doobie Keebler posted:

Loki still needs a nerf though.

The Sean posted:

After the window for the season pass closes, maybe

After they nerf Loki after the purchase window ends they'll buff Collector for "having gone too far."

vvvvvv lol

The Sean fucked around with this message at 20:24 on Sep 14, 2023

# ? Sep 14, 2023 19:40

Red: Apr 15, 2003; Yeah, great at getting us into Wawa.

"You do playtest these cards, don't you?"

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# ? Sep 14, 2023 19:58

Quetzadilla: Jun 6, 2005; A PARTICULARLY GHOULISH SHITPOSTER FOR NEOLIBERLISM AND THE DEMOCRATIC PARTY

Red posted:

I feel like Black Cat being only used for Hela decks, and not even being automatic for those kind of illustrates the problem with Black Cat.

Don't sell short whatever location it is that grants you a 3-cost card (camp Lehigh?). At least if it was the 3rd location revealed you could play her but now you never will lmao.

# ? Sep 14, 2023 20:13

Opopanax: Aug 8, 2007; I HEX YE!!!

Loki isn't even a great card on his own, he's only useful for buffing Collector. That's a silly nerf

# ? Sep 14, 2023 20:31

DrBouvenstein: Feb 28, 2007; I think I'm a doctor, but that doesn't make me a doctor. This fancy avatar does.

How it feels to play Alioth when you have priority:

# ? Sep 14, 2023 20:33

Maneck: Sep 11, 2011

That Shadow King change is a buff which I nevertheless regret in that it was so nice to have him in a Silver Surfer deck. Nice buff for Sera decks though. Drop Shang Chi in one Lane and Shadow King in another and still have two energy left.

Collector was fine until Loki existed, but I'm going to call that a really bad change. An effective two power reduction is not a big deal for Loki decks, and is even going to help avoid Shang Chi. This really hits the non-Loki decks.

# ? Sep 14, 2023 20:40

FireWorksWell: Nov 27, 2014; (It's you!)

Quetzadilla posted:

Don't sell short whatever location it is that grants you a 3-cost card (camp Lehigh?). At least if it was the 3rd location revealed you could play her but now you never will lmao.

At least there's some weird Zabu BC Ghost Rider combo for 12 on whatever location

# ? Sep 14, 2023 20:42

Devo: Jul 9, 2001; Caught Cubs Posting

They just really like hating on my bounce decks don't they

# ? Sep 14, 2023 21:48

Quackles: Aug 11, 2018; Pixels of Light.

Maneck posted:

That Shadow King change is a buff which I nevertheless regret in that it was so nice to have him in a Silver Surfer deck. Nice buff for Sera decks though. Drop Shang Chi in one Lane and Shadow King in another and still have two energy left.

I think I might still keep him in my Surfer�s 2-drop slot. He�s too good.

# ? Sep 14, 2023 21:57

Snazzy Frocks: Mar 31, 2003; Scratchmo

To think, Shadow King started as a 4/3? and was even seeing decent play at 3 energy.

I don't think any other card has been glammed up that hard

Snazzy Frocks fucked around with this message at 22:13 on Sep 14, 2023

# ? Sep 14, 2023 22:06

FireWorksWell: Nov 27, 2014; (It's you!)

I liked him at 3/4. Felt good to have him and kingpin on the field at the same time

# ? Sep 14, 2023 22:15

incoherent: Apr 24, 2004; 01010100011010000111001
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Glad spider pig is back to 1/1. rip always fuckin' death but thats the way of the cards.

# ? Sep 14, 2023 22:20

Sandwolf: Jan 23, 2007; i'll be harpo

incoherent posted:

Glad spider pig is back to 1/1. rip always fuckin' death but thats the way of the cards.

SpiderHam no longer targets highest cost

# ? Sep 14, 2023 22:23

Concurred: Apr 23, 2003; My team got swept out of the playoffs, and all I got was this avatar and red text

C3 is feasting this month with being a big counter to Loki, Shadow King to 2/3, Ravonna at 3/3 reducing Cerebro, Mystique, Iron Man, and Moebius at 2/3 if needed (it will be).

# ? Sep 14, 2023 22:29

The Sean: Apr 17, 2005; Am I handsome now?

Sandwolf posted:

SpiderHam no longer targets highest cost

Yep, leftmost now.

# ? Sep 14, 2023 22:33

Quetzadilla: Jun 6, 2005; A PARTICULARLY GHOULISH SHITPOSTER FOR NEOLIBERLISM AND THE DEMOCRATIC PARTY

Can't find the posts now but the more I think about the issue with the CL cache reward tracking loving up, the more disappointed I get. Afaict this isn't publicly acknowledged at all anywhere, and it is incumbent on the player to manually calculate their rewards to determine if they're affected and THEN complain about it to support. This stinks.

# ? Sep 14, 2023 22:34

jiffynuts: Jul 6, 2005; It's a-me-a-ha-me-ha

Here SD, a proper fix for Black Cat:

Card enters your hand as 4/9. If you don�t use it before the end of your turn it reverts to a 4/4.

There. Done.

# ? Sep 14, 2023 22:46

Snazzy Frocks: Mar 31, 2003; Scratchmo

Black cat is meant to be a target for ghost rider/hela more than a card to actually be played

# ? Sep 14, 2023 22:51

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# ? Jun 6, 2024 08:14

No Wave: Sep 18, 2005; HA! HA! NICE! WHAT A TOOL!

jiffynuts posted:

Here SD, a proper fix for Black Cat:

Card enters your hand as 4/9. If you don�t use it before the end of your turn it reverts to a 4/4.

There. Done.

That's a whole lot worse lol. Let's just see how this one works out because cat+rider used to not even be above par and now it is.

# ? Sep 14, 2023 22:55

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